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Archive through March 17, 2008Damnut30 03-17-08  08:02 pm
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Bombardier
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They do run cooler.

6000k is the kelvin rating which is white.

They start up slow at first and after warming you get a quick response from them.

They start up slow because they draw a lot of current on start up but drop back to about a third of a conventional bulb when running.

They are better than the late model car lights for vision and are only let down in the distance vision by the relatively low quality reflector.

I will be upgrading the reflector/light in the near future in the search for better kangaroo spotting ability.
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Nickcaro
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

kelvin temp preference will vary......

I vote for 4300


http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/342189.html?1205954002
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Dongalonga
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My HID is on the way. It should be here tomorrow or saturday. I ordered from CQ lights. They comes with a slim ballast w/ seperate igniter. I will post up after installation. The best part $89.99 shipped.
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slim ballast is a go



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Court
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>I thought making everything in China was going to result in inexpensive merchandise for the American consumer.

Common misconception: The growth (that's just the GROWTH, the marginal increase) in the United States economy during the Bush administration is larger than the entire Chinese economy.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also vote 4300.

I've heard a few people say the slim ballasts fail prematurely. Probably just a case of the ultra cheap e-bay ones though.
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Samiam
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haven't had a problem with these yet.

I used this install.

But YMMV obviously.

That kit worked great for me and produces the whitest light IMO you can get. And whiter light means less LEO attention.

I'll stick with my 4300k.

-Sam
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Samiam
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A couple pics I posted a while back of my finished install, with the low beam on and warmed up and over the course of about 30 seconds the high beam warming up, showing the difference in color:





And a couple more showing the garage wall:




Keep in mind this is all 4300k, so the light I see in front of me on a dark night is pure white, no hint of blue except for when I first turn on my high beam. I've heard it's much less strenuous on the eyes.

I've got a couple more pics of my install I could post but I'm kind of limited on what I have on my hard drive as I'm sadly thousands of miles away from my bike right now on deployment.

3 months left!

-Sam
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Strmvt
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you did the install did you leave the reflector in the lowbeam or take it out? I am gonna get the 6k temp when I get mine.

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Samiam
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I left it in, and I definitely recommend you do the same. the lights are just TOO bright to do otherwise. Believe me, you'll want that cutoff so you're not blinding everyone.

-Sam
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Midknyte
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I gotta second this. I was thinking about leaving it in, but trimming the shield a little. No need. It's plenty brrrrright!



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Believer
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Hello, i still didn't buy xenon lights.
Does anybody know where could i get some good 4" lamps with clear lenses for H4 bulbs?
I would rely like to install on my xb two new 4" lamps with H4 bi-xenon (high/low) kit.

It would be great if both lights would shine all the time, not one for low and one for high...

Have a bright day
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Ccryder
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take a look here: http://www.rallylights.com/hella/90mm_modules.asp# 90mmBiXenon Pricey but it's the way to go, just look at the BMW headlamps, they use these.

Since you are on the other side of the "lake", you may be able to find these priced a little more reasonable.

Neil S.
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Dongalonga
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Installed mine tonight. Here is how it went.

It did not come with a relay so the power/ground were connected to the stock wiring. The only real problem was the supplied male terminal for the ground was wider then the female end on the stock ground. No problem though I just opened it up a little and electrical taped it after recrimping to be safe.

I mounted the ballast where the stock relay/electrical connector is below the ECM. I used zip ties to secure it and zip tied the relay/electrical connector to the ballast.

I put the igniter in the same area as Midknyte, but pushed it down so it was snug in the gap then zip tied it in place.

The only thing I noticed when I started it up was the light seems to bounce at idle. I dont remember if it did this before or not. I definately tightened everything down well. That is the only thing I need clarified from anyone who cares to chime in.

The light is definately brighter and crisper. The cutoff is damn near perfect like Midknyte's. Overall I am pretty happy with the ease of the install. I am by no means an electrical genius so anyone can do it.
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Newbolt
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am not sure what size the lens is but they look nice.
http://www.oberon-performance.co.uk/acatalog/Bille t_Lights.html
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Dongalonga
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow decided to take it for a ride to see how things were.....Freaking amazing light output. The bouncing stopped once I was off idle. HIDs are well worth the money so far!!
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Believer
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you Ccryder and Newbolt.

Yours Ccryder are quite good but i don't know how to install them to look good, and yours Newbolg are very pretty i just need to get the measures.

i also find some hi/low projector... it seems like you just need a xenon bulb and the projector already includes magnet to cut the light...

http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11343299/Hid_Hi_Low _Projector_And_Hid_Hi_Low_H4_Conversion_Kit.html

Did anybody else find something interesting?

And thanks again
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Believer
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a page of original hi/low projectors
http://www.e-r.com.tw/product01.htm

Does anybody know what shines brighter... Xenon in standard housing or xenon behind lens???

I'm now deciding what to buy... a xenon kit for H7 original housing, or Hi/Low projector housing with H9 or H1 bulbs!
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Nickcaro
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

projectors will always be the better option cause they can focus your light output and you wont have any light spill.
Only problem is that projectors cost more money. If you do go with projectors, definitely go with the Bi option, you wont regret it.

Here is my install in to standard housing.
http://nick-caro.com/1125r/hid/
I love them, but after I'm able to build up a budget I'm going to retrofit Bi-Xenon projectors in there.
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Notmyrealnamedot_com
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did anyone do both headlamps, or just one?
Also where did you get your HID kits from? Any specific brands better then others?
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Samiam
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 03:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine is both headlamps, and I got them from Xenon Depot: This kit

I'm quite pleased with the quality and extra light, and I've had them almost two years now.

-Sam
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Dongalonga
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got mine from CQ Light and the install was easy and the quality of the kit is great for the price.

http://www.cqlight.ca/product_info.php?products_id =65
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Believer
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's great Nickcaro!
I am now almost decided to buy those kit
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIE WPROD&ProdID=1348
i think it's the best of the best, and of course those hi/low projector
http://www.e-r.com.tw/product01.htm

Here are the prices:
2 x digital HID xenon = 440€
2 x hi/low gt-520 projector = 66€
+ shipping ... don't know the price jet

I think this is going to be as bright as the sun : )

I just need to ask for 55W xenon kit?????
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Notmyrealnamedot_com
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Midknyte~~~
What Kelvin rating are you running?
Thanks
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Nickcaro
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

believer,

you don't need 55W HIDs. The standard is 35W and there are a few people claiming 50W versions but the standard 35W are good enough and very common.

How did you get a price for those GT-520 projectors?
They look great but am I missing something...?
I don't see a price or an online store anywhere on that site..
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Midknyte
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I chose 6000k
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Believer
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wrote them and they answered on my mail. They also said that this is a price for samples. So in a big amounts you can get them even chipper. : D
And i calculated in €, they gave me a price in USD - 43$ for a projector!

I think it's a good deal, so i'll take two - because it's damn ugly now when only on lamp is on on a bike!
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Damnut
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I installed my HID kit last Thursday. I did both high and low beams. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!

I paid $200 for both beams with the ultra-slim ballasts, got the 6000K lights. They were on sale when I bought them.

Got them from this place and they threw in a hat with my order. Reasonably priced and very fast FREE shipping.
www.xenonrider.com


I'll post pictures for it if wanted.

(Message edited by damnut on March 31, 2008)
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damnut:

You must be mistaken! They said that only the great customers got the free hat!! LOL.

It was nice to get the hat for "free". I think I need to go into business correcting the grammer and spelling on document "translated" to english. It starts to get pretty comical when you read through them.

Time2Work
Neil S.
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Damnut
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I laughed my ass off when I read the installation manual. I thought it was a hoot but the real reason it was so funny for me is that I deal with alot of people from Japan and their emails and phone conversions are the same way.

One guy I deal with always sends me an email with this in it. "Jim-san I have done what you ask, my results are as bellows"

I'm gonna have to scan the manual and post the instructions. Too funny.
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Dongalonga
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh the silly Japanese you got to love them!!
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Bombardier
Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How is your low beam for focus Damnut?

I have rotated the bulb on mine and found the sweet spot that looks like the same pattern as the standard just a shit load brighter.
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Rb70383
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Believer, Did you get ur HID and hi/low projectors yet? I am going the same route and wanted to see how it went.
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