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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am removing the belt and replacing w/ the chain tonight. Most of it is apart right now.
went to take the sprocket off the tranny shaft and my air gun won't blast it off. I do
realize it is a left hand thread, and I am sure the factory used a ton of RED locktite. Can
this be heated up to get off safely or is there a trick I do not know? I am thinking I may need
to put the tire back on and use the brakes to help, but thought I would ask the question
here before i did anything since I am at work right now.....
Thanks in advance!
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Moondust
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im curious & new to bikes in general

What is the advantage of a chain over the belt system ?
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Bake
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1) No more broken belts
2) Ability to have final drive gearing changes
3) Automatic swingarm lube : )
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check in the KV there is a crap load in there on this subject but basicly stronger...
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Eric,
I am afraid I have not done this myself.
I do believe that heating will help, and locking the transmission gears with a bar made for the purpose, (American sport bike has them), is the s.o.p.

Of course checking with Saintly, would give you better info.

Carrington,

This subject has been extensively covered in the knowledge vault.

To make a long story short, most members of the "chain gang" have experienced a broken belt, and don't care to repeat the experience.

Other advantages are the ability to change gearing to compensate for rider weight or other needs.

Other members have gone to chain in order to use a longer swing arm.

And then there are those, like your present observer, who wanted to achieve all three goals.
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Saintly
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Eric, I've encountered a few tough ones. Yes the factory uses threadlocker. You will need a strong 1/2" drive or bigger gun and at least 110 psi of air pressure.

I dont recommend doing it with the bike in gear, as an impact is not what you want shocking your gears. Short quick blasts with the bike in nuetral till its moving, then long blasts if needed to remove it completely.

I've found that entry-level impacts such as the craftsman or home depot variety(Ingersol-rand 231) will not have enough grunt to do it.

Be very carefull if you apply heat. Oxy-acetylene with a brazing tip will concentrate the heat to the nut nicely. whereas a cutting tip or rosette tip will only set things ablaze! Also a propane torch is about useless, as it does not get things hot enough quickly enough.

Your main worry will be melting the rubber end plug on the tip of the splined output shaft. You would really have to put an assinine amount of heat to it in order for the heat to transfer thru the nut, then thru the pulley and then back thru the factory spacer and then melt the big output seal.

Worst case scenario, you may sacrifice the little end plug, but its cheap. Or you could try to work the end plug out with a real small flat tip screwdrive or pick tool. They aren't in that tight to begin with.

Good luck, and if you get frustrated, call me or email me your phone # and I'll give you a shout.

Fritz
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Saintly!

Going to pick up a 3/4" impact after work. My strongest gun is a 1/2" Ingersol Rand "Thunder Gun".It is usually good for what I do...Just not this time.

I also use 3/8 hose/fittings as them 1/4" fittings don't push enough air volume for most of my needs.

IF nothing else the torches will come out W/ the Brazing tip.

YUP, The propane was useless but I didn't want to melt anything before checking here and in the manual. Better safe than sorry.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 07:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Guys!

Chain is just about on. That 3/4" impact took it off like it was loose already. silly easy.

I would have finished last night but ran out of thread locker.....

Now for the next task....Pulling the forks for the "free spirits trail kit bearings", and some fork maintenance while they are apart.

Again Thanks....You Guys Rock!
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Eric,

Nice going!



While you have your forks apart, you might want to consider replacing the springs with heavier ones, especially if you are in the over two hundred pound category.

Unfortunately the Buell competition spring set is no longer in stock, (although a helpful Buell dealer might be able to find a set. I might ask one of our sponsors, Tilley's).

Failing that, Ed Kwaterski at Trackside Engineering, can fix you up with modified springs that do the job, ( and revalve your shocks at the same time.).

Keep up the good work.
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Saintly
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool Eric,
Maybe you can zap Sully's(Dan) pulley off for him. He should have his kit by now.

Fritz
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jon,
We have a fork tunner/rebuilder right in the next town from me that I may try. He has done work for other buellers w/ great results. At louden last year he was mentioned by many racers on his tunning skills on there bikes and how he did such great work for them, So he must be okay for my needs.

Saintly if Dan is having trouble I am sure we can get him up and running. Big nuts just need big tools....I did manage to poke a hole in the end cap while playing last night..wanted to see if it was plastic or metal....it is metal..lol..thin metal..

I will need to order one of them this week when I get time.

I got the tool in from ronlv the other day for the free spirits bearings and got the lsl damper from Al's so the bike should have a little different "feel" to it this year. Hopefully for the better. Time will tell if these "mods" were worth it on the Buell.

Thanks again for the help.....
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