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Brewtus
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been seeing all the cool things you all have been doing with Photoshop and was interested in buying the software. Which version are you using? I would like to change wheel colors, frame color ect. Which version is most affordable that will do all this? Thanks.
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Interex2050
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The earliest that I have used was 7 and it was more then capable...
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Photoshop Elements is up to version 4 now, and is a very capable piece of software. I've been using the "big" Photoshop since version 3.0, and the latest and greatest is - well, great. But Elements will do most all of what you will ever need as a digital imaging enthusiast.

For what you're looking to do, it has all the selection tools, color change options etc. that Photoshop has. Elements also has a very neat collection of "recipies" for how to accomplish things in the software; like how do you cut uncle Ed out of the family photo and such.

What it will not do is CMYK color (you'll only need that for things like magazine printing), and I believe automation/scripting, although I haven't looked closely at Elements v.4

Can't beat the price either, I've seen Elements for as little as $45.

Henrik
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Ksteig
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you know how to use a FTP client with SSL let me know I can help :-)
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can't beat CS2!
It's my favorite by far.
Photoshop 7 is as far back as I would go if you can't afford the newest.
Elements is good for most, but not for me. It's missing a lot of the tools I use, but for copy and paste, and simple projects it's just fine.
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Jlnance
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glitch - I would have thought you would be using gimp.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Glitch says.

The thing that experts like the Glichster often over look is the steep learning curve involved with the High Test Photoshop.

A couple of years is what most experts will admit to, in a candid moment. I have been using it more or less everyday since Photo Three, still feel like I have a lot to learn.
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Dmextreme
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have photoshop CS2, CS. Adobe Illustrator, and Paint Shop Pro.

Anywho, I bought the manual for CS. Which in CS2 still comprehends all the same from CS.
It's interesting, and by far, so much to do and so much to learn.
the people that are pros at it, I take my hats off too.

Me and some other friends share FTP's, I myself use Serv-U FTP. But I also use a online source with 3 MB connect. Ahh the computer world.. so much to do so little time.

Yeah, I don't think I am pro like glitch. Guy comes in and makes all kinds of happy faces and other misc things with touch of buttons.. you see his Profile.. its like watching fire worx.. LOL

Bravo Glitch!



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Dmextreme
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also.. Does anyone need the 03 XB9R Service Manual. Have it on PDF. It's available for Download. Since I am such a nice guy.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You "nice guy" thing may be viewed differently by the folks who worked hard to make the manual and sell if for a living.

They, not to mention the law, take a dim view of "free download copies", as you might well imagine.

Same reason, when someone gave me a "free" copy of Photoshop, I tossed it.

Not a big deal, but I'm fairly sure Badweb has a policy preventing the advertising and sale of "knock off" Buell products.

Court
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Dmextreme
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no, i actually purchased it on ebay. Was on a disc. The guy advertised wrong and said it was for an 05 XB9.. so I get this disc and wa la. I have a manual for something i dont' need.

I don't download things illegally. But if its on ebay.. I will buy it. : ) I paid 20 bux for it.. its no big deal, and if I can help a badwebber out.. by all means thats what i like to do.

As far as the other programs go. My wife does allot of photo things for her college classes.. so she bought those : ) I guess I should have told the whole story first. Of course the Serials are registered to her. : )

Sorry !!

(Message edited by dmextreme on March 22, 2006)
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Henrik
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just curious Glitch. What's missing from Elements? Asking 'cause I just bought the missus a nice Epson scanner, that came with Elements v2, and I was going to upgrade to v4

Henrik
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Madsx
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dont forget the newer the version of Photoplop you get the more recources your system will need. If your system is more than a few years old and hasnt been upgraded with RAM, Video etc.. version 7 may be the way to go. Get as much RAM as possible as Photoshop uses it all. A good video card makes all the difference too. Waiting for screen redraw sucks.

(Message edited by madsx on March 22, 2006)
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Isham
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

5.5 is as far back as id go. CS2 has some great stuff. Subscribe to the Photoshop TV podcast on itunes to hone your skills.
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Angelwild327
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I second or third photoshop elements... there is actually, almost nothing you cannot do with elements that is done on photoshop...and you will save a MASSIVE chunk of change in doing so. If you find a good forum to learn about elements, you'll get plug-ins for it and all kinds of extra. I've let it go to the wayside a little, but I did tons of work with elements and the ease of use, (get some books like elements for dummies or whatever looks good) with a little practice and a forum to ask questions of other users, you'll love it...
Good luck
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Photoshop is nice, but unless you are a trained professional, it's a bit of overkill. Paint Shop Pro should do everything you need for FAR less money.

I have no first hand experience with Elements. Gave up the digital imaging career years ago.
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Rasmonis
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Photoshop CS is a great program, I am currently playing around with Macromedia's Freehand and Fireworks. All three work great individually and together.

Photoshop is not exactly intuitive to a novice user and requires some time get used to.

I've used paintshop pro which was fairly easy to use, but I can't remember if it comes with a "Magic Wand" selection tool which is one of Photoshop's coolest features for picture modding.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would have thought you would be using gimp.
I do when I'm at home, but having litteraly years invested in Photoshop, it's the easy choice.
Wine works, but my Linux box is a bit slow when it comes to running Windoze apps.
Bravo Glitch!
Thanks!
What's missing from Elements? I can't remember exactly what was missing when I tried it out (mine came with a scanner also) but it irritated me when I found it missing.
Paint Shop Pro is a great program. I used to use it back when it was fairly new.
I love Photoshop, you can see some of my stuff on www.worth1000.com
I'm not Glitch over there, can you find me?
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also if you're learning how to Photoshop there are some great web sites out there with tutorials.

Multimedia is great fun, I also play with Flash, and animated gifs.


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Henrik
Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Elements review here:

http://www.macworld.com/2006/03/reviews/pshelements4/index.php

Henrik
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