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Joshinga
Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell Motorcycles discontinued
The demise of an important marque
Let’s hope it’s just ‘so long’ and not ‘good bye’
by Kip Woodring


Included in Harley-Davidson’s quarterly financial report issued on October 15 was the shocking announcement that after 26 years of operation, Buell Motorcycles would cease to exist, with all production at their East Troy factory ending on October 30. The Motor Company has also let it be known that none of the Buell models will be retained and rebadged as Harley-Davidsons.

I’m gonna think of it as a “hiatus,” firstly, because I detest the notion that The Motor Company, after 100-plus years of hardscrabble business tactics, would be so shortsighted as to permanently kill Buell Motorcycles simply to bolster the stock. Secondly, like it or not (and too many do not), Buell, the man, is the most innovative designer/engineer extant in this industry.

It appears that Erik is going to remain affiliated with Harley-Davidson in some advisory capacity or other for the time being. But, to my mind, that’s a lot like keeping a leopard on a leash—in your living room! I suspect that unless there’s some real action in the areas Mr. Buell is good at, this arrangement is destined to be temporary. Still, I hope Erik can hang on long enough to watch the economy turn around and lobby successfully for the re-introduction of his motorcycles into the marketplace at a later date. I hope that rather than being declared dead, Buell Motorcycle Company is just resting. Or regrouping!

Damn few in the history of motorcycles knew what to make of machines truly ahead of their time and incapable of being pigeonholed into any somewhat ephemeral so-called class. The current legends and lore surrounding an old (dead since the ’50s) British bike called the Vincent is but one textbook example. Cherished and expensive in the extreme these days, that brand struggled (and ultimately failed) to survive in its time because people didn’t know what to make of it. Instead, they bought conventional—and often mediocre—rivals, rather than embrace a leap forward in first-principles thinking and elegant engineering. Not much has changed when it comes to Buell—either man or machine. Buell the man is an inspiring example of thoughtful, insightful, sometimes downright brilliant approaches to building better motorcycles. The fact that the results are not always perfect in execution, less than conventional in design, and neither racebike, sportbike nor Harley is entirely secondary. They are damn fine machines! Confounding to all but the connoisseur to be sure, but worthy of the same respect as any Vincent ever was and more than most supposedly better competitors that have only refined conformity to offer.

Unwilling or unable to determine—let alone label—just what a Buell motorcycle really is, it stands to reason it would be difficult to market. Sure enough, The Motor Company stumbled its way into a decision to stuff the bikes into Harley showrooms… like it or not! Although the arguments for doing so have been articulated and rationalized to death, in hindsight it would simply have been better to allow Buells to be sold alongside Ducatis, Triumphs and that ilk—where passion and cultish adoration are cultivated rather than quashed. The sought-after buyer demographics would have been closer to the mark, to boot! Buells are emphatically not Harleys, so why the hell mix oil and water? Especially when the purity of Buell’s progressive thinking was dissipated and wasted in the sea of traditionalism that is H-D. Yet that’s what happened and, sadly, it hasn’t worked out.

That’s more than momentary cause to pity Erik and his band of hooligans—it’s a major long-term loss to everyone who respects obsession with purity in motorcycles. And one less choice in life—of ways to live it on two-wheels for you and me—if it sticks! If indeed it’s not just hiatus, our world will be the poorer for it… regardless. In other words, it doesn’t matter whether you give a damn about Ulysses, Thunderbolts, Lightnings or 1125s. That’s myopic. The big picture is that the future belongs to visionaries, designers and engineers with the mind and mechanisms to make all motorcycles matter more to everyone, whether they know it or not.

Erik, if you’re still paying attention, this means we need you and your machines, so get past this and get on with it!

(Message edited by joshinga on December 21, 2009)
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Buelltours
Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"...stumbled its way into a decision..." I like it. Clearly the author is familiar with Corporate America...
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Joshinga
Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found that writing in "thunder press" a HD based mag and I thought that a Pro Buell wright up was very strange, But still made me feel good that even the Die hard H-D crowed feels Harley screwed the pooch on this one.
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Charlies_s1
Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The truth is hard to hide, Long live Buell.
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any hd rider with a brain accepted Buell motorcycles. America needed a sportbike, now look what happened.

You can be the most prejudice hd owner on the block and say shit like " If you aint riding a harley, you and your bike aint shit " and still have an amount of brains to know that Buell belonged here.
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Tbird71
Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Truth is I, like so many other HD riders, simply walked right past the Buells w/o a second glance (altho most of the time they were stuffed into the far recesses of a lot of shops so I didn't even have to do that) By the time I did find out what they had on the table, it was too late...(not b4 I snagged an 09 CR tho, thank God)

My take on it (and it's my opinion, no one elses) is most HD riders (a lot of the shops business) are only concerned with the Milwaukee big twins. We didn't go into the shops to look at/buy Buells. We knew of them, but had no idea what they were about, and couldn't have cared less. (And I include myself in this group, sorry to say) That was the problem. I to this day cannot fathom why HD marketed them the way they did. Seems like a recipie for failure in and of itself. Yes, I still have my Road King. Yes, I still prefer the big twins. But the CR will be a fun bike to ride as well. Just my .02 from an HD riders' standpoint.
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46champ
Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was a time when Sportsters were looked on as desirable products also, not just a girls or training bike. Things have changed it's all big twins now as far as the rank and file harley owner is concerned and a lot of the dealers that sell them.
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S2pengy
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kip wrote tech articles in Battle2win that wear like the article above very good..
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Buell2001b
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lets just hope EBR great success in 2010 and hope things will work out
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Buell920
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sticking with wishing BUELL a great 2010.



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Buelleaver
Posted on Friday, December 25, 2009 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All I have to add is that lots of Harley riders have done a double take at my x1, and that all seem to have had something nice to say about it.
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SEE!!!!!!!
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