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Snail
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My opinion: Banning and thread deletion should be open for discussion among the membership. Having a thread deleted is like being told to 'shut up', and while it may be necessary at times, other times its a major insult.

A member faced with this should at least see where the animosity is comming from, and should have a chance to edit or volutarily removing the offensive thread.
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Road_thing
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree that, if a large number of members desire a thread to be deleted or a member banned, that desire should get extra consideration from Blake and the custodians.

But I'm not sure that every deletion or banning needs to discussed.

rt
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the policies of the board should always open for thoughtful discussion.

Presenting issues of banning and post or thread removal for open public discussion would in my opinion result in consternation and public embarrassment and never-ending argument. Folks are free to thoughtfully object after the fact if they feel the need. If the custodians can be persuaded to reinstate the particular thread or post in question, then we can do that.

I agree that it should be our policy to contact authors of what we view as problematic posts/thread and explain thoughtfully our concerns.

I refute the idea that custodians act upon animosity when seeking to maintain the integrity of the board.

What RT said.
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Jon
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Like has been said before, Custodians do what they do as best they can at the time. It always perfect, more often than not it's right.
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Snail
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure, but having it open to public scrutiny would remove the 'knee jerk' decisions, in fact or perception.
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Jon
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Snail,

For what it's worth, I have really enjoyed these threads of yours. Not just for laughs either.
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Road_thing
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Public scrutiny sounds okay to me, in certain circumstances and as long as everybody understands that the administration of the board is not entirely done by popular vote.

What I'm trying to say is, I think it's fine to discuss some custodial actions in public, before actually performing them (kinda like what I did with Lurch's seal/baby picture in that other thread) but I don't think it needs to be a hard and fast rule with respect to every custodial action.

For instance, if the policy of the site is "no porn images" then custodians should be able to, immediately and without public discussion or scrutiny of their actions, delete any "porn image" when they see it.

Does that make any sense?

rt
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Concur!
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Me 2.
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Loki
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any way to lock a thread to new posts?

Leave it in view with a final post stating as to why this preliminary action is being taken.

Call it a cooling off period to let the dust settle. Give all parties a chance to think about it. Then take the next appropriate action.

Direct policy infractions should be dealt with asap.

If an image or link is overtly and generally offensive and the custodial staff deems its removal as being required. How about a short blip in its place as to why. Something like "image deemed to be in extreme bad taste" or "link deemed to be outside of..." The blips could be canned items like the emoticons.
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Henrik
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm with r-t on this.

Henrik
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Blake
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RT for President! : D




Bryan,

Yes and we use it when needed. You haven't noticed? : )
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Road_thing
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If nominated, I will not run!

If elected, I will not serve!

rt
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CJXB
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even if it was only you and Hilary and if you didn't accept she would serve by default ?? hahahahahaha
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Pammy
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I say we just put the offenders in a big ol' ditch and throw rocks at'em. I got me a mean pitching arm...and a pile o' rocks (rubbing my pitchin' arm)
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Loki
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im confused.

No I aint.

Well, yes I is


I realize this functionality is there. Just thinking about ways to improve its use.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It takes three easy clicks for a custodian to shut down posting on any thread. : )

For those who might not know...

Bottom-right of page... Click on Administration - check "Close page" and click on "Perform Action." : )
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Jon
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dang! Pam again!

Pam, I love to throw rocks. Why my first ride in a Police care was in 1966 in Daly City, as I was perched at the corner of Palmdale drive and Southgate Avanue throwing rocks at cars. I was lost in the pleasure of the moment and didn't notice that I had tagged a Police car. He hung a U-turn I was busted and boy did I get a spanking. 5 years old!

But I'm still up for a stoning...let's just post a look-out.
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Roadrunr
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"If nominated, I will not run!

If elected, I will not serve!"

rt You my friend are a born leader by most accounts!
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Road_thing
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Steve, I appreciate that!

rt
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