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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Feb/130227mmn. htm

Maybe Lorenzo is getting into Rossi's head?
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jaime

Hes not far off pace. He was also on 2012 bike today also. Superbike Planet is just putting a twist on interview he already did with someone else
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresul ts/MotoGP/2013/February/feb2713-rossi-lauds-impres sive-lorenzo/

But this line from Superbike Planet:


quote:

"The difference today was Lorenzo, especially his pace: 00s, 00, 00, 00, 00 ... F*ck!"




That's pure Rossi. I can almost hear him in my head saying that based on all of the interviews I've seen with him.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jaime

That quote was on crashnet.com... the Bbc And other UK sites. The orginal seems to come from crashnet. Nothing wrong with Rossi saying kudo's to lorenzo. Thats Rossi fashion.
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Xb1125r
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rossi should just retire and stop embarrasing himself with excuses
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lorenzo ends the test with the fastest overall time, though Pedrosa had the fastest time on Day 3. Next up: Austin, TX!
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Trojan
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rossi should just retire and stop embarrasing himself with excuses

Oh dear......maybe you should learn something about the history of GP racing before making lame comments?
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Xb1125r
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know for alotof you Rossi is King, but like every King their time comes one day.
Rossi needs to move on.
there is no change he could even finish the season in 3rd place.
there is too much talent on the track.
Lorenzo is the new KING and no one is going to take his title.
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like they all are bunched tight. Rossi being in forth. Actually not bad considering the first two days of testing he was riding the 2012 bike. I think its gonna be a huge battle this year between more bikes.

TIMES

1. Dani Pedrosa Honda 2m00.562s 57 laps
2. Marc Marquez Honda 2m00.643s + 0.081s 54 laps
3. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 2m00.992s + 0.430s 56 laps
4. Valentino Rossi Yamaha 2m01.062s + 0.500s 61 laps
5. Alvaro Bautista Gresini Honda 2m01.078s + 0.516s 43 laps
6. Cal Crutchlow Tech Yamaha 2m01.094s + 0.532s 59 laps
7. Stefan Bradl LCR Honda 2m01.309s + 0.747s 63 laps
8. Andrea Dovizioso Ducati 2m01.650s + 1.088s 44 laps
9. Nicky Hayden Ducati 2m02.070s + 1.508s 53 laps
10. Bradley Smith Tech Yamaha 2m02.314s + 1.752s 64 laps
11. Andrea Iannone Pramac Ducati 2m02.566s + 2.004s 52 laps
12. Michele Pirro Ducati 2m02.773s + 2.211s 38 laps
13. Randy De Puniet Aspar Aprilia 2m02.863s + 2.301s 45 laps
14. Ben Spies Pramac Ducati 2m03.055s + 2.493s 33 laps
15. Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha 2m03.154s + 2.592s 32 laps
16. Hector Barbera Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m03.155s + 2.593s 42 laps
17. Wataru Yoshikawa Yamaha 2m03.257s + 2.695s 26 laps
18. Aleix Espargaro Aspar Aprilia 2m03.423s + 2.861s 45 laps
19. Karel Abraham Cardion Aprilia 2m04.066s + 3.504s 57 laps
20. Colin Edwards Forward FTR-Kawasaki 2m04.102s + 3.540s 42 laps
21. Hiroshi Aoyama Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m04.512s + 3.950s 51 laps
22. Michael Laverty PBM-Aprilia 2m04.546s + 3.984s 24 laps
23. Lukas Pesek Ioda Suter-BMW 2m04.674s + 4.112s 33 laps
24. Danilo Petrucci Ioda Suter-BMW 2m04.686s + 4.124s 36 laps
25. Claudio Corti Forward FTR-Kawasaki 2m04.718s + 4.156s 51 laps
26. Yonny Hernandez PBM Aprilia 2m04.722s + 4.160s 47 laps
27. Takumi Takahashi Honda 2m04.749s + 4.187s 65 laps
28. Bryan Staring Gresini FTR-Honda 2m05.313s + 4.751s 40 laps
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the biggest problem with "the show" is that the riders are all on scalpels, not swords... if you don't maintain a perfect, precise line every time, you are going to lose tenths of a second on every lap.

In other words, expect more of the same, I'm afraid. I really do think the answer to more exciting racing is LESS electronic rider aids but that isn't going to happen. The factories have too much invested in developing them with an eye towards the future.

Soon, our bikes will be smarter than we are (if they aren't already) and we'll just be passengers along for the ride.

All we have to wait for is Skynet to gain self-awareness, and we're all toast.

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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sepang test Feb 2013.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRTqSVFUjg8
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love watching Lorenzo ride. He just flows so smoothly from corner to corner, like watching liquid...
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW!!
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Feb/130228mmn1 2sz.htm
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Xb1125r
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2013 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like Filipo got the can, but they had to come up with a nicer way of saying it.
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2013 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the biggest problem with "the show" is that the riders are all on scalpels, not swords... if you don't maintain a perfect, precise line every time, you are going to lose tenths of a second on every lap.

Which is why the latest generation of 'star' riders are all ex-250 guys rather than the dirt track school of tail sliders.

Even Rossi has said that he needs to change his riding style to match Marquez and Lorenzo on the latest generation GP bikes.

The manufacturers will always cite safety as the main reason for electronic aids, so they are very unlikely to retreat from that position now. Most of the riders also admit that some level of electronic input will aid safety, although the crash record seen so far since the 800 days would tend to disprove that. There ar enow far more crashes over a weekend than there used to be, simply because everyone is so close to the edge all the time.

Riding styles are now so extreme that there is no margn for error or room to recover if it all goes wrong. Look at Marquez/Redding and their elbow dragging style for the future of MotoGP : )

To improve the show we need more riders capable of riding at this level rather than teams employing riders that can afford finance the team but don't have the ability to run at the front : (
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2013 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Looks like Filipo got the can, but they had to come up with a nicer way of saying it.




Dang, stop the presses! I find myself in agreement with you!
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2013 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

To improve the show we need more riders capable of riding at this level rather than teams employing riders that can afford finance the team but don't have the ability to run at the front.




I foresee a lot of wrecked, broken bodies of riders trying to push themselves beyond their ability to get to that point, too.

Stoner may have been the last of the "tail sliders" to be successful in MotoGP.
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2013 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stoner may have been the last of the "tail sliders" to be successful in MotoGP.

They'll be back one day, once the tyres or rules suit that style of riding once more.
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Marques learning from Rossi.... Rossi learning from Marques. The Rookie has one of the most unique riding styles and according to Rossi..... not seen.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/188501/1/funny_te st_duel_for_marquez_rossi.html
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of Stoner... I know Superbike Planet is not high on everyone's list here on websites to visit but I happen to LOVE the little dig they got in at the end of this article:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Mar/130202a.ht m
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46champ
Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They'll be back one day, once the tyres or rules suit that style of riding once more
The rules change: i.e. the end of the spec tire. Spec tires keep the cost down till everyone is building the same piece of equipment then everyone is chasing a smaller and smaller advantage. Note how Ducati was at the front when they were one of the few using Bridgestone tires. After Honda changed to Bridgestones Ducati is no longer at the front. I guess Bridgestone knows who they really need to build tires for.
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kawasaki and Suzuki were both using Bridgestones at the same time as Ducati, yet they were rarely competitive. Might want to come up with a different conspiracy theory.
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Simond
Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 04:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After Honda changed to Bridgestones Ducati is no longer at the front. I guess Bridgestone knows who they really need to build tires for.

....yes, Casey Stoner. Will they fit his V8?
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, if I remember correctly, Capirossi and Bayliss were winning races before Stoner joined the team. Just not with any of Stoner's consistency.
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, March 04, 2013 - 05:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess Bridgestone knows who they really need to build tires for.

The actual reason was a lot more complicated than just tyres, although the Ducati did use its Bridgestones better than the Suzuki did (because the Ducati power charactaristics suited the tyres better).

The original Ducati 800 simply had more power than the Yamaha/Honda opposition in the first year of the 800 rules. The Japanese factories were far too conservative when they were building the bikes because they were worried about the new fuel limits and backed the power off too far. Ducati just went for power first and economy only as an afterthought.

By the second season the Japs had caught up and Ducati lost their dominance. It is pretty coincidental that they other teams got Bridgestone tyres as well later (at a time when Michelin had lost their dominance of the class), although again that is more complicated than simply getting the same tyres as Ducati.

The situation is seldom as clear cut as a simple tyre advantage unfortunately : (
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, March 04, 2013 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ever wonder which industry could step up and provide the sponsorship void left by the tobacco industry?

How about PORN!
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Simond
Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anything that gets rid of that awful red white and blue paint job they ran last year is good news.
A curious move for a team that is concerned about being taken seriously though!
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2013 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't say I agree with everything he says but it IS entertaining reading:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/817/15698/Motorcycle -Article/Single-Track-Mind--MotoGP-2013-Preview.as px
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2013 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just someone else that has opinions and speculations.
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Gaesati
Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

10 years since Barry Sheene died. Still deeply missed in Oz motorcycling circles. Still the subject of motorcycle magazine articles, memorial rides and dedicated historic racing championships.
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