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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cold start for mine is:
Crank over, starts right up.
runs 2 seconds.
dies.
hit starter again.
starts right up and this time stays running.

Any one else have to do this little dance?
Is this a developing problem?

If it was my 2000 X1, I would just crack the throttle a bit.

I was told not to do this on the 2008 models.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I was told not to do this on the 2008 any models.




Fixed.



Not sure what you are doing wrong, the 08+ bikes start easier than the old ones.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nate, mine does the same thing; but not all of the time. Sometimes it almost stalls, then it catches itself and runs like it should. I've been riding it through the winter, and it hasn't fouled a plug yet, so I'm not going to worry about it.
My '06 Uly would stall almost every time, in the cold weather, so I just figure it's just part of the process.
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Ulyscol
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 06:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine just started doing this but only when it is cold out.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i don't remember my 08xt doing this once yet. not that i would have paid attention anyhow.
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Werewulf
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mine did that before i grounded everything again with star washers and extra ground wires..... grounding on these bikes is a problem... mine runs like a different bike now...

even with star washers under my battery cables, i noticeded yesterday, that they were working loose again.. there has to be a better way....any tighter and ill strip the terminal..

also, after you ground it, go thru the tbs reset proceedure, if its an 08..

(Message edited by werewulf on April 17, 2009)
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TPS reset: turn on without starting and open and close the throttle five times slowly?

Right?
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine does the same thing on cold (sub-40F) mornings - even after I cleaned up and reinstalled all the grounds. Very annoying.

...I'm going to try adding some ground straps between the main chassis and tail section and the engine block and main chassis and see if that clears it up.
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Conchop
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only when it's cold. The irridium plugs from American Sport Bike helps a lot.
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Mad_doctor
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree, sub 40, turn the key on wait for fuel pump to stop, hit starter and it will run for 3-4 seconds. let fuel pump prime again, hit starter and she fires right up and idles fine. Above 40 starts first time every time. (Damn I love that bike)!
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Widowmaker2011
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 08 only stalls once if its below 32 and I can't complain about that. above 35 never stalls and idles perfect everytime...What is DOES do is weird , initial starter button push results in an agonizingly slow crank and then it almost stops on the compression stroke..... and then (keep holding the button) cranks over fine. If you shut it off after it starts and try it again its fine. Happens everytime it sits overnight or sits days on end. Like a dead battery but voltage good and grounds cleaned and redone as per bulletin.
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Ulyscol
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like all us 08' guys are pretty much in the same boat.
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Road_kill
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My '08 Uly does same thing around 40F. Stalls twice below 32F. I use iridium plugs from American Sport Bike. I tightened up the battery terminals (just a little bit loose, now VERY tight), grounding checked ok (may use the star washers next). Annoying yes, but when it finally starts and stabilizes, the bike runs perfect. Weird thing is, the bike never did this winter before last. I'll be looking here for more advise.
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

08XT did it till I put Iridium in it. I did a breather reroute and now it is even better. If you put new plugs in it, use a piece of 1/4" fuel line to start the rear spark plug.

When it dies; part of ritual is to turn ignition completely off then back on and wait for light to go out again.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 09 Uly I was using just about always started, and I was using it consistently in the 30s/40s.
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Werewulf
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

does anyone have the iridium part number for the 08?
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neat info here ->
http://ngk.com/sparkplug411.asp
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Rwcfrank
Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My did it when new but hardly ever does it now...
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Tiberius
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"...What is DOES do is weird , initial starter button push results in an agonizingly slow crank and then it almost stops on the compression stroke..... and then (keep holding the button) cranks over fine. If you shut it off after it starts and try it again its fine. Happens everytime it sits overnight or sits days on end. Like a dead battery but voltage good and grounds cleaned and redone as per bulletin."

Mine does this as well...not confidence inpiring.....but it always starts.

Common?
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