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Dr_greg
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...it was ridden by Jon Flickinger (BMC CEO) at the Ulysses introduction in Colorado in 2005.

My bike (S/N 044) made its way from CO down to Albuquerque, NM where it became the demo bike. After about 1,300 miles I bought it.

I just passed 51,000 miles last weekend with no major problems. Never left me stranded. Never fouled a plug. No BAS problems (not upgraded). Runs better than ever.

With all the "Buell reliability" discussions going on now, I wonder if BMC paid any "extra attention" to S/N 044 knowing that the CEO was going to be riding it.

Probably not. But I like to think so.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doc,
And you can bet they beat the living peeiss out of it during the demo miles. Can't treat'em too kindly or they'll take advantage of you everytime. Worked on chicks in college.
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Supertoon
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just what the doctor ordered! I too was starting to get a little nervous reading about the bad luck some folks have had. My 06 has 25 000k and diddley has gone wrong,same stator/vr, same bearings, same belt, same big grinning dope riding it......
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Madduck
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Every Harley and BMW I've ever owned has run better when rung out regularly. My youger brother just got a FLH classic and had babied it thru the first 400 miles and was a little disappointed in its performance. I showed him how to run it now that the break in miles were over and he is thrilled with how it runs. He and the wife run the damn thing everywhere, they even enjoy the rain. Those 96" motors are really sweet.
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M_singer
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dr_greg I have read the history of your Uly elsewhere and while it certainly is good; it is not impressive or exemplary by any means.

It is also not typical. Base on what I have see here I would say that most Uly's will not make it 50k miles w/o a walk home failure. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't you break a belt? A parking lot drop should not cause a failure of any final drive system that wasn't going south already.
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Uly1080
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

M_Singer, correct me if I'm wrong, but you have not had a major problem with your Uly to date, other than some warranty work. You just seem to really be taking it out on the bike based on various forums and internet hearsay. If we only make choices and derive our opinions (good or bad) from reading those of people we really don't even know...what's the point? To try and predict "a walk home failure" for most Uly's may be a bit of a stretch.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

M_singer,
If BadWeb was about the human body instead of a human engineered motorcycle I suppose you would just have to preemptively check yourself into a hospital and await your most certain demise. I only jest, but as we all well know, humans can live upward to 115 years. But because of something called life and the bell curve, people die at all ages and for every reason under the sun. The apex of that bell is called our average lifespan and on either end are the outliers where at one end you have the centenarians and the other end you have your infant mortality.
Anyway, what you need to do is take the MSF BRC and should you be lucky enough to live through it, then you can buy a motorcycle and a service manual and experience life in real time.
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M_singer
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>>M_Singer, correct me if I'm wrong, but you have not had a major problem with your Uly to date, other than some warranty work. You just seem to really be taking it out on the bike based on various forums and internet hearsay

Clutch wire form broke at just under 600 miles. Replaced with updated part. Won't happen again.

About 1500 miles the wiring harness rubbed through. Causing the fuel pump to run continuously when the key was turned on but the motor had not yet been started. Also caused the ck engine light to come on.

about 4k miles the front brake is pulsing like crazy. I am not aggressive with the brakes.

Other then that its been an awesome ride. I love it but I don't trust it. Yes my opinions are based to a large extent on what I have been reading here lately. My '05 Firebolt was near flawless.
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M_singer
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Anyway, what you need to do is take the MSF BRC and should you be lucky enough to live through it, then you can buy a motorcycle and a service manual and experience life in real time.

That comment demonstrates ur ignorance of my experience and isn't worthy of any further comment.
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Ulyranger
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since these things are so inherently unreliable I should just go down in the shop and throw a couple .45s into mine just so I don't have to worry about being stranded someday, maybe. Nah, maybe I'll just stop clicking on certain links in "My Favorites" and go riding instead..........
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M_singer
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ulyranger I could do that as I usually have a 45 with me
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

M_singer,
Let's see a photo of you and that ULY of yours. I'm skeptical that you actually own one. I just wonder about an individual that worries about things that haven't happened to him personally.
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Neurorider
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you guys need to get out and ride. You particularly, m_singer. You're worrying yourself into a tizzy over what-if's....You know what? I have several friends that have been totally #@#%&*( (messed up) in nasty divorces and left with no money or pride. But, when I fell in love with a hot girl, I still got married. What if, what if....so what. Enjoy the ride!
doc
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Neurorider
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dr. Greg, you're already riding a lot! that last post might not apply to you. I think it's cool that your bike was ridden by the CEO. Maybe that's part of it's reliability, who knows? I've always found Buells work better when you ride them hard and often so that may be why yours have been good to you.
Richard
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Supertoon
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only thing we can ever hope to control is how we react to circumstances. Breaking down is a drag, but it can become an adventure as well. It just depends on your attitude in dealing with it. Worrying has got to be one of the most un-productive debilitative emotions there is.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

That comment demonstrates ur ignorance of my experience and isn't worthy of any further comment.




Let me . . . for a moment. . . see if I have this right. A person who spells "your" as "ur" is pontificating about ignorance?

My money has surely been wasted in Ivy League schools.

Court
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Keith_mahoney
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Ulyranger I could do that as I usually have a 45 with me"

Please use it to put 2 into your computer for me. I have already spent 13k on an 08 XT I won't even see until maybe October and you are really bumming me out. I plan on taking this thing everywhere from Spain to Italy to Denmark and I don't need you filling me with doubt. Hell breaking down in the States is one thing but over here HD dealers aren't exactly on every corner.

(Message edited by Keith_mahoney on August 05, 2008)
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The_raven
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First login in about a year, and now I remember why I stopped frequenting badweb.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guys, calm down. Wow, didn't mean to stir up a ruckus.

Perhaps my Uly maintenance record isn't "exemplary" but I think it's pretty darned good. The belt broke at almost 50K miles. The other "failures" have been rather minor, wouldn't you agree?

OK, the clutch needle bearing maybe not, but it wasn't AT ALL catastrophic and wouldn't have happened if I'd changed the transmission oil more frequently.

And oh yeah, the rear wheel bearings. Oops. Well...

But I've been able to fix everything myself...

Oh, and it's a good thing the "demoers" broke my Uly in right, because I ride like an old lady!

Don't mean to be a cheerleader, but I really like the Uly and sometimes I like to say so. 'Nuff said.
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M_singer
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know what Electraglider_1997 that is the 2nd time in this thread that you have made mistreatments about be. I won't post any pics of me to satisfie you but next time you in East Tennessee maybe we should met up. Hows that!
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M_singer
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Don't mean to be a cheerleader, but I really like the Uly and sometimes I like to say so. 'Nuff said.

Nothing wrong with that Dr Greg. Nothing wrong with being a Uly cheerleader if you want to be.

I don't have a problem with people who don't agree with be about how reliable the Uly is or isn't.

I do have a problem with people who make false personal comments for the sole purpose of insulting someone who expresses an opinion that they don't like.

Those who are not mature enough to refrain from making personal insults are the ones who need to stay the hell out of Badweb!
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M_singer
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keith_mahoney, you are in the same boat as me my friend.
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M_singer
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Let me . . . for a moment. . . see if I have this right. A person who spells "your" as "ur" is pontificating about ignorance?

My money has surely been wasted in Ivy League schools.

Court

Court I wasn't pontificating and your "your vs ur" comment is a petty move to draw this off the topic of Uly reliability and make this a thread about how I type or spell.

I don't think that you like potential Uly buyers seeing these real problems discussed.

You and I have disagree on things in the past in a mature way and I am surprise and disappointed in your reaction.

I didn't go to college after High School. I enlisted in the Marine Corps. I don't have the benefit of your Ivy League schools, sir, but I have learned a few things that you have yet to learn.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


"EEAARRGHH..."


Congrats Dr_greg, from another 50k'r who's ridden his Uly enough to still love it regardless of the problems I've had!
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Ulyranger
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"First login in about a year, and now I remember why I stopped frequenting badweb."

Yup, I anticipate a lengthy absence coming as well. Free exchange of information is great until someone makes it their personal crusade to verbally beat everyone into submission with their opinion.
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Hooper
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I know where Court's coming from (if I may):

Not so much about education level as staying true to the written English language, and not giving in to the abbreviations and chopping and acronyms that serve as evidence of the overall decline among Americans of their ability to WRITE. It's kind of sad.

I manage 40 people in their early to mid-20s, college-educated, DC-based, and this is what I've found.

But we're not talking about grammar, we're talking about Buells. I think I'm going to bail and do a road trip into WV this weekend - the girlfriend is out of town!
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Hooper
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bummer, Raven - what're you riding now, if not a Uly? Anything good?
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Xbimmer
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First login in about a year, and now I remember why I stopped frequenting badweb.

Yup, I anticipate a lengthy absence coming as well. Free exchange of information is great until someone makes it their personal crusade to verbally beat everyone into submission with their opinion.


C'mon guys, a malcontent here or there is internet forum normalcy. The tradeoff is the wealth of knowledge and camaraderie that can be found. Completely imbalanced to the positive IMMHO!

If you ride a Uly or other Buell where else do you go so easily for info? The SHD dealer? The Sunday watering hole?

Long live BadWeB, I wish we could buy t-shirts or stickers...
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Hooper
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone good with Cafepress.com to create some BadWeB stickers/t-shirts?
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 06:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fascinating.

It wasn't an X-1, it was an S-1 and it wasn't Dyna . . . it was an owner in San Francisco. At least that's the only owner I've ever had contact with who was going to do anything with a helicopter and a Buell.

Unless you count the time Don Ford said he wanted to stop by and visit the factory and arrived via his helicopter in the parking lot.

(Message edited by court on August 06, 2008)
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heh...it's like Dyna never left some days.

...did he ever succeed in dropping his X1 from a helicopter onto Buell's front lawn? ; )

(Message edited by darthane on August 06, 2008)
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then with some of this logic, our new 2008 XB12TT modified and run in this years Pikes Peak "Race to the Clouds" ought to go 100,000 with no service required!
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