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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I stopped by the station today and found the lighted price sign off. I drove in and asked the manager what was up, he said the sign read $6.55, but the real price was only $4.55, he said he was just tring to keep all the crazies away. Yesterday when I drove by and saw the $6.55 the cars were out in the road waiting to get in.

The crappy thing about it is at the time everybody was lined up, I actually needed gas, I was about to run out.
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i figured what the hell and topped everything off last night just in case it went up even more here. went up 20 cents yesterday.

i spent a couple hundred on fuel doing it though.

topped off the new tahoe at kum & go for 3.69 a gallon. the gf waited until i was done to remind me that it works with E85 that is a buck less a gallon. ugh.

the cenex station right done the street was 10 cents less a gallon so the plymouth and the beretta got filled up there even filled up a few gas cans. still need to top off the bikes with premium though.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here in Lakeland a few stations have been around $3.70. I commute back and forth to Tampa and have seen stations as high as $4.50. The news says Ike has raised the prices, but Gov. Crist says that Florida has plenty of gas and that there is no need for the price increase. He is telling people that if you see a station with a ridiculous price to call the Attorney General and let them know about the price gouging.

There would be no issue with the price raises if employers would give legit cost of living raises. I've seen nothing in the last two out of four years working for USF. I take that back...I received a $1000 bonus check last year that was taxed heavily. I finally received $675 of that.
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Zane
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought 87 octane 10% mix for the truck yesterday at a Hess station about a mile from the house. Paid $3.65 a gallon. That is the western side of the Tampa Bay area.

There doesn't seem to be any shortage here. In fact Gov. Crist announced that Florida has plenty of gasoline to meet current needs.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the gf waited until i was done to remind me that it works with E85 that is a buck less a gallon. ugh.

You get less miles per gallon with E85. Price per mile is about the same.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oil closed at about 95-96 buck a barrel...I wonder what the price of gas will be when the refineries come back on-line. My guess is no matter how low oil falls, we won't see gas at less than 3.60 a gallon. Some other excuse will come along to keep it high.

"My balls got sweaty from the heat in India, thus I couldn't push the "Make Gas" button on my council."

Its almost comical. I'd rather have them come aout and say,..."well assbags, we have you by the shorthairs so pony up to our $4.00 a gallon or don't drive"
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Bbbob
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here in Cape Coral, none of the stations seemed to have raised the prices much. Reg about $3.75 - $3.79, prem $3.95 - $4.01. But most of the stations are out of gas. I don't know if the deliveries were delayed or everyone is panicking & fulling up, using the supply faster?
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

from talking to the people i know that run E85, it does get a bit less mileage. on a long haul highway trip it is a couple mpg less.

but running around in town where i get crudy gas mileage anyway from the stop and go it doesnt seem to be as much of a difference in mileage is what they have noticed anyway.

say it is exactly $1 less a gallon for the E85(i think it was actually $1 and some change) and i get 2-3 less mpg with it. seems to me that i would still come out a little money ahead.?

someone thats better at math than me should be able to figure that out easily
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

E85 may be cheaper,but you are paying that buck back with federal subsidies. I've heard 25% less mileage with E85. I know the 17 cents difference here for 10% ethanol is bogus. 20 to 21 mpg with ethanol.....25-28+ with 87 octane. I'm sticking with 'no ethanol'.Ethanol will never pencils out in mileage as a better buy.........regardless that it "seems" cheaper at the pump.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For what its worth, we dropped our price 10 cents a gallon on all grades today. Never went up at all during any of this crap.
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Seanp
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The places it went up were the states bordering the Mississippi to the east. I took a snapshot of the gas prices to send my wife (currently living in NY) because she didn't believe me that prices were going up so much:


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Then, a snapshot from today shows that the prices in Illinois, Tennessee, and Alabama have dropped significantly in the last couple of days. This doesn't necessarily mean that they went up before that, but I'd bet money that they did.


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The gas station by my house has been out of gas for a few days at least, as have both the stations a half mile up the road. I guess Governor Crist doesn't fill up his own car, or maybe he doesn't get his gas in Tallahassee.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$3.60 here this morning
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Rde48
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I paid $3.80 last night but on the other side of the county it is still $3.95. I just don't understand why it would be so much different.
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Seanp
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I'm just looking at the maps I posted and wondering ...

If Ike closed off shipping up the Mississippi for a few days, could that explain why the states east of the river are hurting for oil? The states west of the river can get it by truck from Texas or wherever. So now that Ike is gone, maybe the gas is starting to flow up the river again (not literally, of course) and that's why the prices are dropping first in the states just bordering the Mississippi? In a few days, the prices should drop in the states farther east, like Georgia, Indiana, and Michigan?

Or maybe I'm oversimplifying a far more complicated thing.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A little over simplifying, but you got the right idea. A lot of stations lost power and are unable to pump; the ones with power ran out of fuel. At the stations that are open, there tend to be lines and police helping to regulate things till everything gets back to normal. Point of my last post was because a lot of people thought the world was coming to an end, and everywhere was getting something like $6 a gallon. I had a customer that came in and topped off 3 vehicles “before the price goes up" . I bet him $50 that it wouldn’t budge, and it didn’t. 2 days after he did that the price went down, not up. It kind of bothered me, because that’s the attitude that causes shortages and price hikes in the first places.
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Seanp
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, the prices here only went up less than a dollar, but as you can see they're headed back down already. It's a little distressing to see that as of yesterday afternoon, some stations still had plastic bags over the pump handles, but I'm sure it won't last.

It was funny - the day the shortages started there were long lines blocking the roads in some places. People sure did spaz. I had just filled the tank in all three vehicles, so I was set. I still have 3/4 left in my truck, 1/2 in the Buell, and almost full in the Kawi. But then again, I don't frivolously drive around like some people do around here...
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Had a hard time finding premium today. Was $4.23 a gallon at the fourth station I stopped at. Back to telecommuting...
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