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Detroit
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 1998 S1 with 17,000 miles. The S1 uses 1 quart of oil every 300 miles. What Mods should I make to the beast when I freshen her up? Current Mods are: Pro series air cleaner, V&H exhaust, Yost Jet Kit.
I may go 1250 Nallin Big bore with Stock Thunderstorm Heads. Any suggestions? I am trying to keep the total investment under $1500.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Detroit: You plan on doing your own wrenching? If so, the big bore kit is only $900 and you get cylinders and piston kits. Then spend some $$ on some dyno tuning.
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Detroit
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake,
Yes Sir my own wrenching.
Anyone know of a good Dyno for fine tuning in the Detroit area?
I would not trust any of the dealers around me with parts let alone a dyno.
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Rempss
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You might negotiate with Brian Nallin & get 1250 kit & Stage 1 or 2 heads for about that amount. He might be open to taking more of your money, giving you more of his product, and you get more satisfaction. Well worth going a little over budget.

Just started my 1250 kit / Stage 2 heads / Force exhaust / PCIII / extrude honed intake / matched fuel injectored beast yesterday. Neighbor said it sounded "like the sky was falling down" - so at least I'm on the right track.

Jeff
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stage I headwork, freshen up cylinders and a good assembly - that should get you into the 90's, then spend the rest upgrading your suspension so you can actually go fast :)

Henrik
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Detroit
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2002 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Henrik,
I have the X1 Showa forks on my S1 and a Penske rear shock. Also Pro series bars. Other than revalving the showa forks I think I am set to my abilities with the suspension. Now when I exit those tight 2nd gear corners I want to come out on one wheel. If that is possible for $1500.
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Detroit
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2002 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeff,
I would like to see dyno numbers on that beast of yours.
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Rempss
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2002 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Detroit,

I'm in Maumee (Toledo) Ohio, still 20 degrees and a little snow on the ground. When I get the thing broken in I'll post the dyno and the full story on top end rebuild, hopefully with some pictures if I can find the memory cards I put them on.

I just wish I had a baseline dyno from stock, but the bike was "put away" by the time I decided to rebuild it, all started with a rocker box leak & tensioner replacement. That was all I was going to do.

Jeff
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2002 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Detroit; yeah, if your front springs are the right rate, then you're there with suspension.

Well, in that case I'd say call some of the very talented motor wizards we know: Brian Nallin, Wes at Cycle-Rama etc. and I'm sure they'd be more than happy to help you get rid of your $$$ and replace it with some rear-wheel-driven fun :)

Henrik
(I'm looking around myself, but may not have enough $$ for what I want to do)
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Raymaines
Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great topic here! Can I change the rules a little bit?

What if you bought a brand new Buell M2 and you still had $1,500 credit left over on your VISA? What would you do?

I'm going to suggest:
$300 for a new muffler
300 to replace the bread box with something (anything)
200 for a good Dyno tune up
150 for new fork springs and fluid
75 for a pair of bar end mirrors


That leaves $400, maybe $500 to play with. What do you suggest? Carbon fiber? Billit? Tires? New cloths? What?
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nallin Stage one heads or a set of cheap leathers if you don't have any.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or a really good helmet. Man, that's one of the BEST investments I've ever made. The shoei Z-II ROCKS! No uplift at all, dead silent with the rear exhaust vents closed, VERY comfortable, removable/washable liner. Under $400 online for solids.

Or you could go for the touring accessories. Ventura rack/pack, saddle bags, tool kit, tent... :)

Don't get me started!
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Detroit
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake,
Is the Shoei Z-II the new model? I have a 2 year old Shoei RF-R (not there best helmet) and its as loud as an HJC. I know that the older RF-800 Shoei was real quite. I think the way the visor ends were designed flush.
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Detroit
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK here's the lowdown.
I called the one and only Brian Nallin (hell of a nice guy) and he recommended a package for me. Since I dont have thunderstorm heads or pistons he is going to do the Stage 2 headwork to my lightning heads. He is having me ship my cylinders and he is going to go with .020 over Wiesco pistons. He is shaving the head to bump up compression and porting the intake manifold to match. All this is well short of $1500. Once I play with these items and break them in I should be able to come up with the funds for a mikuni carb (HSR 42 or 44 not sure yet) and pro series pipe.
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Rempss
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let us know how it goes. Sounds like a good combo.

Don't forget to call Brian back for install & break in procedure. His kits come with about zero printed instructions. Easy install though, hope Buell doesn't go too far in the "suberbike" direction, seems like that would make owner maintenance a little more complex.

Are you from Detroit? I get up to the Monroe area quite often, good backroads in Michigan, except the dirt ones that are still there.

Jeff
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Detroit
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeff,
I live about 1 mile north of Detroit in St.Clair Shores. When I go riding for pleasure I go near Pontiac, Mi. That is the closest place to me with some curves. A couple times a year I try to get into West Virginia and Southern Ohio (hocking Hills Near Logan).
Are there any GOOD places to get a Buell dyno'd near Toledo? There are allot of places here that have dyno's but they dont give a rats ass about buells. Big twins are the only bikes they want to see.
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Rempss
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ann Arbor HD Buell has a good reputation with Buells, looks like they just started a BRAG.

I buy my parts and have my TPS reset(!!) and will have a custom PCIII map made at Signature HD Buell in Perrysburg; about 10 minutes south of MI/OH line on I-75.

Great parts guys, not a lot of Buell knowledge, but willing to put up with me being a bit pushy to get what I need and making them learn to boot. Never waited longer than 2 days for special order parts.

They have the newest Dynojet and seem to have a good dyno guy, talks a good game anyway. Running a $49 special for 3 pulls right now. Don't know how much a dynotune would be, but worth it for sure. (See, some subject related info here)

Curves, what are those? I can see Cleveland from here on a clear day.

Jeff
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Eeeeek
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Five Track days.

Vik
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Detroit
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Vik,
I have thought about that before. I am a procrastinator. I guess the idea of more HP outweighs the fun I would have at a track day.
I am sure if I tried it I would be hooked. Maybe sometime in the summer. I need to safety wire my bike anyways for a piece of mind.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Detroit:

Yes, the Z-II is new. It falls between the RF900 and the X-SP. The RF900 is also a fine helmet. I wanted a removable liner and never did really like the RF style venting so I splurged for the Z-II at helmetshop.com. It came with a nice bag and a breath guard too.
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Eeeeek
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Detroit:

I was in almost the same position as you about a year ago. I was trying to find ways to get more power out of my bike when Reg told me "don't be an idiot, the bike already has more than anyone can handle. Go to a track school." Best damn decision I ever made.

Track days are about sooooo much more than fun. They teach you how to really ride the bike in a controllable manner. They get you to scrape the footpegs, muffler, kickstand, etc. and you become a faster rider. The best thing about track days is they are easy to apply to toerh bikes.

FYI, I've gone to three track days now and I never had to safety wire the bike. Just tape the headlight amd taillight and remove the mirrors.

Vik
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Lake_Bueller
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd have to agree with Vik. You'll never be able to use all the power that already exists. If you just want to go fast in a straight line, buy a 'busa.

The track is the best place to get the most from your ride.
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Blacksix
Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Detroit- What was the cost of getting your work done through Nallin?

Similiar situation with a '99 M2.

Definately going with a new exhaust-header combo but not quite sure which one yet. Thinking that the Thunderslide is almost mandatory.

Not sure from there...
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Joebuell
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man, reading this I feel like a REAL cheapass.

Used Race ECM from a crashed x1 = $20
Glass-pack from local car parts store = $20
Used V&H elbow from first generation slip ons = $15
Performance Air filter from Chicago Harley (20% off) = $30
Blast! venturi ring = $2
haven't got it all together yet, but when it dynos I'll post.
Dosen't seem too bad for 87 bucks!!!
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Dark_Ninja
Posted on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rempss,

How did this turn out? I'm looking at doing something VERY similiar to my 98 S3T and I am EXTREMELY interested in how your project is going.

cliffnjag@attbi.com
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