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Silverbuell
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All,

I have a Silver 98 S3T with about 40,000 miles and recently it's developed a rash(paint bubbling) on the lower right side.

I am looking for suggesitons how to stop it from progressing.

Thanks

Tim in Centreville, VA
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unfortunately....repaint it. I have an S1W that had just a couple bubbles on it. After a couple weeks, the entire tank had contracted paint-leprosy. Once it starts....
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tim:

Can you post a photo?

Court
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Crazyhorse
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 98 s3 did the same thing 4 years ago and I stripped the paint and sealed it and repainted it and now it is starting to do the same thing in the same spots again.
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Sparky
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ditto here.

Original owner 98 S3 with a "$100 goodwill warranty" replacement tank in '02 which has developed several large blisters all over in the last couple years. Tank was fine in 2005, now looks like a nuclear disaster survivor.

Just wondering if it's still possible to get another "goodwill" tank or, if not, is there a best way to prep/repaint to avoid the bubbling?
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wandering if anyone has used inside tank liquid blader paint(coating inside tank rubberized paint).I think tank may be leaking gas through plastic? my 99 ,S3 just starting. Butch
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.oldbikebarn.com/Kreem-Tank-Restore-Kit
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Tank-Sealers_c_7-1-0.h tml
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don,t know if it works on plastic?
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Woodnbow
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's one of a bubble that "popped" just above the seat... same 01 S3T.


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Woodnbow
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, here's a pic of a bubble near the filler cap on my 01 S3T...

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5liter
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That looks similar to mine on my 02 S3T. I popped it with a pin, just like a blister.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My understanding is, the fuel vapors leach through the plastic tank material. That's why a lot (including mine) of tanks start to bubble at the decals - the vapor can't pass through them.

I'm not a painter, but it's my understanding that 1: you don't want to use a tank liner on the non-metal tank, and 2: with proper prep, paint will adhere to the plastic the way its supposed to.
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ya Joe:Mine bub on S3 tank not near letters or decale.But why does,t paint bubble on my S2T Tank?It has a shell,better way !!

(Message edited by ebutch on October 01, 2008)
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS Found another bub on saddlebag.But it,s a bag I painted on S3.Could it be mettle-flake brake-down in clear coat?Doesn,t happen to solid clear coat on S2T!

(Message edited by ebutch on October 01, 2008)
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Mark61
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My '99 S3 having paint issues too. Almost looks like rust developing under a few spots on the tank. On the side of the body/tail there are what look like dings or stone chips in places there is no way stones can get at.

Does anyone have paint codes for a red '99 including base coat? Would like to get it repainted the same color.

mark61
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Mark61
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Forgot to mention the bike only has 5,500 miles and is mostly parked inside. Very little rain or bad weather exposure.

mark61
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Silverbuell
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,

As requested here are several shots of the bubbling that has started on my 98 S3T fuel tank.

Thanks

Tim in Centreville
98 S3T Tank Bubbling




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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have a 1997 S3T and you think your gas tank looks bad with BUBBLES, you should see mine ...

It must be the prep before painting was not done correctly ???

Have a spare brand new gas tank that has had gas in it once, no bubbles ???

Seems like the longer the tank has had gas in it the more bubbles ...
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The other difference is the plastic tanks on the later tubers are (Court, correct me if I have the wrong name) Surlyn or some such thing - not fiberglass, like the S2/S2T bikes. The tank plastic is softer, more flexible than fiberglass so the prep has to be done differently. It also has different properties concerning vapor transmission.

I've got some "rust bubbles" on the tail of my S2, above the taillight (near the "S2 Thunderbolt" decal). My suspicion on that one is, either a mold-release agent wasn't washed completely before paint, or some of the resin is seperating. Hasn't gotten worse in the couple years I've owned the bike...so there it stays.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The S2 had a tank cover over a nylon/plastic fuel cell.

The S3 had the fuel in the tank.

In other words . . . the location where you see BUELL - AMERICAN MOTORCYCLES on the S2 is nothing more than a cosmetic cover. . . . whereas on the S3 it is THE fuel tank.

As I, in my sunset years, begin to personally bubble . . . this is all clearer to me.

: )
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think what I have learned from this is (I,d paint tank Emty!!!!)I,ve come across this in paint not being dry before next step.Rinkling.Butch
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court:Took 62 yrs to learn all this! Know it,s going to take another 62 yrs to learn how to use it.
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Bad_karma
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 98 S1w is doing that. Butch by chance do you keep a cover over the bike?
Joe
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Silverbuell
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All,

I appreciate everyone taking time to respond.

Looks like I'll need to take the tank off this winter and have it repainted.

Regards,

Tim in Centreville
98 S3T 40,000 miles and still smiling
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

62,000 Still smiling. http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/100 _0096.jpg Pull Some GGGGGGGs
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Mark61
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nobody has any paint codes?

mark61
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Bandm
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/3595.html?1222902973
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Fed
Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hope this helps

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/368236.html
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