| Author | Message | ||
     Blks1l |
Hey this is my first post on this page. I've got a question about my rear shock on 97 S1. About two years ago I got recall 0817 done. It is the long shock, people have told me that it has been recalled also. I've looked through here and can't tell for sure. A couple of local dealers I've talked to can't really help me out. Any nobody know the answer? Thanks Dean | ||
| Court |
QUESTION #1: The service manual (1999 X1) states 73-78 ft lbs yet there is also a service bulletin out (B-018) that uses 60 ft lbs as the correct measurement. ANSWER #1: Always use the bulletin when one exists. Recall procedures ALWAYS supercede service manuals or any other technical publication. QUESTION #2: About two years ago I got recall 0817 done. It is the long shock, people have told me that it has been recalled also. ANSWER #2: No shock has EVER been recalled a second time. The shock you have meets the requirements of the recall. To quote the guards to Obe Juan Kanobe...."you can go about your business" | ||
| Josh |
Just talked with Racetech. They were supposed to a) check the level of the old oil b) measure the spring rate of the old springs c) install .85 springs and replace the seals. They installed .95s and aren’t sure if my old springs are .67 (stock) or .95 and they have no idea about the old oil level or anything else. (conversation between me and the 5th person I talked to. I've never been bounced around like I have there) Me – your notes say the old springs were .95, so why did you then install .95? Them – no, the old springs were, uhm, .67 Me – then you’re saying the dealership ripped off my buddy as he paid for .95 springs to be installed. Them – uhm maybe. Me – then you didn’t note that. So why then was the bike so incredibly stiff it was almost un-ridable? That’s why the forks were there. And why didn’t you call (like you assured me several times that you would) when the forks were apart so we could discuss what you found and what to do? Them – uhm. Why don’t you send everything back and we’ll take a look. It takes anywhere from 5-25minutes to get their service guys on the phone (the service dept isn’t even an option on the phone menu) and I’ve talked to so many different people (never the same twice) it's not even funny. No one there seems to talk to anyone else, and no one seems to know what they’re doing. Maybe the savings over traxxion isn't worth it? Hell I even sent 'em to Cali instead of dealing with a local Racetech-trained shop to avoid stuff like this. | ||
| Anonymous |
Here is a very delicate question that i need to ask but im afraid im gonna get hit with somthing. it seems that the back of my bike is riding a lot lower you know bottoming out only seems to happen when my girl gets on tho you see her ass has almost doubled in size!!! what can i do so as not to hurt her feelings and save my pressious bike. is there a way to tighten up the ride without spending to much money, or should i just do a wheelie when she isnt ready and keep going(8^0) | ||
| Josh |
You have the preload cranked all the way up? (ie no threads showing)? Penske or Works might have higher spring rates, but often the limiting factor is the tires. Check the load limit on the ones you're running and see how much room you have. I'd either a) buy her her own bike b) go on weightwatchers myself c) tell lard ass to take the car. Josh | ||
| Bomber |
Josh . . . .. I've only dealt with Traxxion once, but they got tech on the phone twice, at the drop of a hat, got me parts 2 days after I ordered them (no extra shipping charge), and answered my stupid questions over the phone regarding installation and spacer sizing cheerfully, and accurately . . . . . .. that kind of customer service is worth alot . . .. . no direct contact with Racetech, so I can't comment | ||
| Buelliedan |
Anon, If the combined total weight of both you, your girl and your riding gear exceeds 385lbs then you are over your S3s limit. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Josh, I got the 1K springs for my M2 from Traxxion in 3 days. Pretty impressive. Quite clear instructions for spacer cutting too! Brad | ||
| José_Quiñones |
NO, if it exceeds 335 pounds then you are over the limit. You need to subtract 50 pounds worth of oil, gas, battery etc from that 385 pound load rating. As mentioned, check the shock preload first, but check the front and rear isolators to see if they are torn. | ||
| Buelliedan |
Jose, From his description of his womans' ever increasing ass I would almost bet that the combined total of both of them exceeds 385lbs even w/o subtracting the weight of fuel, oils, etc. Average Buell riding man probably goes aaround 200-220lbs. That only leaves about 150lbs or less for his woman and most American women are not living up to that standard lately!!  | ||
| Wman |
Is there a old style swing-arm that hasn't been recalled? I would like to go with a steel unit for clearence with a chain conversion. | ||
| Anonymous |
Well she is going on a diet post haste me to im about 240 i could probly loose 20 pounds ill admit im getting a little belly. she gotta loose a little more she wont admit to more than 150 but im betting its closer to 160 which is about 50 more than she weighed when i met her so lard ass gets left behind till she gets rid of the behind litterally. I was just hoping that maybe i could stiffen up the springs or somthing till then. God i really hope she doesnt read this im not in the mood to spend the next 6 months fighting! | ||
| Blake |
Anony, Try cranking up the compression damping on the rear shock. That is as much if not more important than increasing preload. You can probably turn it all the way in. Compression damping is the screw adjuster on the rear rod end of the shock. The one on the remote reservoir is the rebound damping adjuster. You can probably leave it as is. | ||
| Anonymous |
Thanks for the info guys. Sometime this stuff can get a little tough to deal with how do you get somebody to understand that if they wanna ride they gotta stop eating and start working out cause they are tearing your stuff apart. I mean hell i can only loose so much before i start looking sick. | ||
| Danny |
Anybody tried putting the new isolators (L0504.9 & L0505.9) on an S2? We tried and couldn't make them work. I ordered some for my bike but haven't tried toinstall them yet. Success? Failure? Tips or Tricks? Thanks Danny 95 S2 02 V-Strom Part-time parts & Sales; Modesto Ducati & Buell | ||
| Blake |
Danny, If y'all cannot make it work, then I am sure not going to even try.  Well okay... did you try hacking off the big metal wing? | ||
| Chucks1w |
I have all of the RaceTech parts to re-build my front suspension on my 98 S1W except the bushings and the .95 springs. They have been on back order forever now and the date keeps getting changed. Question #1 does someone else make a comparable spring and #2 if I used them and the stock buell bushings would I be foolish or should I just keep waiting and let my baby hang quietly in the garage? | ||
| Henrik |
Danny: FWIW, When Dr. Gadget did my S2 upgrades, he told me the new isolators would not fit. He sure has enough S2s himself that he should know Henrik | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Chuck, Give Traxxion Dynamics a call, I called them on a Monday and had the springs in my hands by Friday. http://www.traxion.com Brad | ||
| Libnosis |
I think I need swingarm bushings in my beloved 98S1. They look worn out when viewing from the side and the bike makes a noise when leaning left. Sounds like metal to metal like theres no rubber left. My questions are; How hard is it to replace the bushings? What are the best replacement bushings to use? thanks, lib | ||
| Jmartz |
Lib: The frame needs to be lifted off the swingarm block and they fall off. To accomplish this you'll need to release the 3 heim joints, the oil lines and the front mount, amongst other things. Rest the engine/swingarm block/rear wheel on wood and up goes the frame. | ||
| Hoser |
Anyone: ?? My S2 is apart to be Hot rodded , and I have made an unusual discovery . The front isolator bracket which bolts to the front cylinder head( the chunky older style ) was bolted on with one 7/16" bolt and one 3/8" bolt . This bike has never been apart , has never been touched by another mechanic , only been worked on by me ( I did the pre delivery inspection ) This seems odd , an annomaly ?? a factory screwup ?? , I'm not sure . I have noticed the different size bolt heads before , one being 5/8" the other being 9/16" but how or why did this happen. Other S2's I have worked on have 3/8" bolts securing the isolator to the cylinder head. Oh Ya this is not me whining about this , just me sharing an observation. | ||
| Buelliedan |
Sounds like somebody at the factory stripped out the threads and then just enlarged the hole. | ||
| Jmartz |
Hoser: That was the factory set up since there is a higher load on the left side. | ||
| Blake |
Lib, The current version of the OEM isolators are the best choice unless you are racing and want a set made of solid aluminum. Someone made a comment the other day about simply unbolting the swingarm block from the tranny, that they found doing so much easier than what the service manual (what JM describes above) calls for. The only thing I would be concerned about in taking that short cut is whether or not there might result some misalignment. I don't know if the swingarm mounting block is positively indexed (match drilled and pinned) with respect to the engine/transmission assembly. If not you might need to somehow do so to avoid ending up with a misaligned rear wheel. JM, What do you think? | ||
| Jmartz |
Access to the top bolts is very limited. Yes, there are fewer things to remove if you do it that way. Blake, I don't think alignment would be a problem. For sure the case and block are not indexed but the critical alignment is that of the SA block to the frame. This, of course, is preset in the block casting and frame jig. This "alignment" can get somewhat out-of-alignment since the isolators do give a little. As for the isolators I don't think there are any older style left out there. The part that really gets me of this job is cutting the oil lines. These SOB's just do not come off and it would be foolish to attempt to remove them other than by cutting from the grommet type older oil tanks. Those darn lines are quite expensive and you always need an extra foot for proper fit. | ||
| Hoser |
Fella's: Thank's for the response to my comments above , I may add that I have not seen the mismatched hardware mentioned on any other bikes , ever. Rear isolators can be a "real fun time" for those who have not done it before (S2's being the exception) , I have change lots !!! , and have used both techniques , as in remove exhaust , carb , tank , stabiliser links , etc. , as well as the remove the swing arm mounting block style to complete the job , either way it's a pain in the ass with little difference in length of time or level of difficulty. It's a matter of choice , my preference being to not remove the SA block. | ||
| Aaron |
Jeff, my S2 is like that too. | ||
| Hoser |
Thank's Aaron , that makes two I'm aware of now. | ||
| S2pengy |
Both my 95 S2 and 96 S2t have the different size bolts sooooo if you want to install Thunderstorm heads you have to enlarge the one hole...... |
