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Ejiii


Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm new to HD type engines. What exactly is Sport-Trans fluid? SAE weight, etc?
I have used Redline oils for a long time. I am planning on using Redline 20w-50 engine oil at the next oil change. I don't believe the Redline 75w-90 will be an appropriate substitution for Sport-Trans fluid. Is Sport-Trans fluid synthetic? Are there synthetic substitutes?

Thanks.
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Ingemar
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 04:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use redline 75w90 in my tranny. I use the regular though, I was strongly adviced NOT to use the heavy. And I'm glad I followed that advise, I later saw the goo it leaves in someone elses clutch basket.
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Ejiii


Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Redline engineer I called said to use the 75w-90. At the time I did not realize there was a Primary oil and a Sport-Trans fluid. Neither HD bottle gives any information about the fluids so you can't learn anything. Maybe I'll call the Redline boys again just for fun and see what they say is a direct substitute for Sport-Trans fluid.
I'll let you know what they say.
Thanks.
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Ejiii


Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, called Redline. The official Redline replacement oil for HD Sport-Trans fluid is their standard 75w-90.

So there we have it.
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Glitch


Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, that's good to know.
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Brucelee
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mobil 1 75W-90 is the way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Svo1023


Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i agree with the mobil 1....even the guys at the dealership use it. my trans is way smoother with it.
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Goldenboy9r
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mobil one fo-show!
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Xb9rski


Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I Concur, Mobil 1 75w-90 all the way. I am currently trying out the new Extended life 15w/50 Mobile 1 in the engine, I'll let you all know how it looks in 5k.

"Ride it till it seizes"

Ski
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U4euh


Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mobil 1- from clanky shifts to smooooth!! Yea baby!!
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Glitch


Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not sayin' one's better than the other, but have any of ya'll tried anything else?
I've used Redline and Mobil1, and to be honest I didn't notice a difference between the two.

(Message edited by glitch on February 15, 2005)
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Ted


Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea, anyone try Castrol or Penzoil of that weight?
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Tbs_stunta
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Redline's been really kind to my Beemer's tranny.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree! Mobil-1 75W-90 transforms the shifting; worked wonders on my XB9R.
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Xb9rski


Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry Glitch, I've only used the HD and the Mobil 1. I'm a cheap Bassttard when it comes spending money on oil changes. I can't see paying 10 bucks a quart. I even use the Sport Tech filter from Wally World. Looks just like the Buell filter only differance is the painted name on the outside.

"Ride it till it seizes"

Ski
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Xb9rski


Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry Glitch, I've only used the HD and the Mobil 1. I'm a cheap Bassttard when it comes spending money on oil changes. I can't see paying 10 bucks a quart. I even use the Sport Tech filter from Wally World. Looks just like the Buell filter only differance is the painted name on the outside.

"Ride it till it seizes"

Ski
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Fullpower


Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SPORT-TRANS is obsolete. Harley has now admitted in print that a synthetic 20W-50 MOTOR OIL is suitable lubricant for all of their engines, transmissions, chaincases, etc. one lubricant suitable for your entire motorcycle. 20W-50 synthetic motor oil is easily available at most auto parts and discount stores. often as low as 3 dollars per quart. have fun.
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Opto
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where'd you find that Dean? About bloody time! Sport-Tran appeared to me to be a blatant H-D ripoff...
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Metalstorm


Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd like to know where I can see that statement from HD as well. It'd be handy for all XB owners to have a copy in case of warranty issues.
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Sokota
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

on amsoil website there cross reference for sport trans fluid is their 20/50 synthetic motor oil. wonder if their 75/90 gear oil would supply additional protection , it has a pour point to minus 50 degrees
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Fullpower


Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

reference is the H-D syn3 oil bottle. 20w-50 synthetic motor oil suitable for all harley and buell engine, transmission, and chaincase applications.like this.
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Metalstorm


Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I'll be damned...

Thanks Fullpower
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Ara
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That strikes me as a particularly chicken way to make such an announcement.
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I could swear I read somewhere on here that somebody put Mobil-1 V-twin in the tranny with good results.

Maybe I'm just full of it???

tank
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Dcmortalcoil
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sokota,

Amsoil 75/90 gear oil is not suitable for XB trans. I was told by Amsoil engineer that it contains friction modifiers that can degrade the wet clutch. He simply told me not to use it.
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Duff24
Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

tank, me and my 2 roommates (hanses25 and thansesxb9rs) all use the mobil 1 v-twin synthetic 20w50 oil for everything in our bikes and seems to work great. could tell a difference switching to mobil 1 at ~4000 miles on the bike.
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