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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can just see it now, some poor XB9S owner who added the city grill guard to his bike will go into some by-the-book dealership for new tires.
"I'm sorry sir, but your VIN comes back to a 9S so we can't put Pirellis on it, and your bike looks like a CityX so we can't put Dunlops on it either. Might we interest you in a new UltraGlide with new tires already installed?"
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Torqer
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A customer just came in and picked up the new black wheels he had ordered... there was a bit of gold poking out from under the black. That was confirmation for me that there is no difference.
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Outrider
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tire applications chart just looks like a matter of replacement OEM parts for specific models.

Translation: This is what came on the bike and this is the replacement part. You are free to do what you want, but this is what our legal department approved for obvious reasons.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

gold poking out
He seem awful happy now that he got the Diablos mounted. Wonder how long it's gonna take him to swap 'em out. In time for tonight?
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Outrider
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Considering the price differential between the black and silver vs the amber wheels, it almost appears that the black is a practical way of dealing with blemished amber wheels.

Wonder if someone will find a silver finish under their shiny new black wheels? That would really be the clincher concerning how to deal with cosmetic seconds, eh?
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They're all silver to start with, then they coat them with the color.
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Outrider
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was referring to the silver coating, not the base metal.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No silver coating on the XB silver wheels.
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Outrider
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glitch...Just a clear coat on the silver wheels, eh?
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If that.
Seems like it may only be polished.
I'll have to look tonight and see, to make sure.
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984_cc
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My silver wheels have a clearcoat.
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Captainplanet
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I brought this up before, and someone verified that the silver wheels on the 03 xb's are actually painted. I think it was Blake???
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Christ I WISH they were painted. Maybe then I could keep the damned things CLEAN! That 'Stardust' finish is the @#%@^ing worst thing on the bike in my opinion.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Powder coating mine to black.
Shred just bought the black ones from Buell. They look awesome one his white XB9R!
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Bradyclt
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Getting back to the Scorpion SYNCs, I've ordered a pair online for my 03 XB9SL. They're due early next week, but won't be mounted 'till the 5K service in Sept. The dealer wanted $145 for the rear OE Dunlop... no can do. And since I commute on it every day the temp's above 40 and the precip chance is below 30% (which works out to about 60% the time in central NC), I wanted something with better wear w/out losing any of the D207's other attributes (and hopefully improving some). Thought long and hard about the new Conti RoadAttack (sticky sport tourers, which Pirelli markets the SYNC as BTW), until I found the weight figures: 10F, 14R. A bit more than the OE Dunlops... Then on a whim I pulled the specs for the SYNCs: 8.9F,12.25R. I was already aware Buell was using them on the CityX, but found that they are also OE on the Duc Multistrada. The reviews in the Euro bike press on the SYNCs have been favorable so far... and one motorcycle.com review apparently liked them too. I'll post an update once they're on and I have some mileage on them. The best prices online for the SYNCs I've found are around $87 for the front and $104 for the rear. The most competitive sites selling them were all within a few dollars of these prices (not incl shipping/handling/taxes- if applicable).

As far as the official parts list goes, that's just listing how to order what shipped on the bike, that's all. It's not excluding anything...
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Bradyclt
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

More info: on Pirelli's UK application guide, the SYNC is positioned between the Diablo and Dragon/Sport Demon. They have it overlapping the low end of the supersport range and high end of the sport touring range. The .pdf can be found here:

http://www.pirellimoto.co.uk/tires/Upload/24_2_101522.pdf

When drilling through the various national sites on pirellimoto.com, there are some differences in how this tire is being marketed. On the North American and German sections, it isn't even mentioned (probably due to its newness to those markets). On the Italian site it's categorized as a supersport, and on the UK site as sport touring. Marketing folks crack me up...
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Maverick9s
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a pic of my new rear Pirelli. Love these things! Excellent choice Mr. Buell!
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Darthane
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maverick, keep us posted on your impressions of them as far as life and traction. They sound like they might be a good compromise for my normal riding around home.
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Bradyclt
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine came in today... and they're made by Metzeler, which I consider a pleasant surprise having 10 years ago run a ME Z2 rear and ME Z4 front combo I liked a lot (not that I have anything against tires actually fabricated by Pirelli, since that's what I was expecting anyway). According to DOT codes they were both made in Metzeler's Neustadt, Germany plant mid-March 03... apparently very slowly working their way through distribution over here, or sitting in a warehouse somewhere for a year.

One oddity I noticed immediately is that even though the front and rear use an identical tread pattern (the rear just has larger blocks/grooves compared to the front), the directional rotation arrows have them spinning in different directions. Using car tire thinking, the rear is what I'd normally regard as correct in that the rotation of the tire has water in the center of the tire being dispersed to the outside. The "V" in the pattern is flowing in the direction of travel. I checked several web photos of the CityX and Multistrada and in all the photos (across different bikes) the tires are mounted in agreement with the sidewall arrows. The only thing I can think of is that in the case of the front tire, when leaned over in wet conditions the designers are trying to disperse water from the contact side of the tire across the center of the tread, which since it's not touching the road surface any longer when cranked over is acting as an outer non contact side. If that's the thinking, I hope upright wet performance isn't compromised since most folks don't get crazy in the rain anyhow.

If anyone has any insight into why this is I'd like to know.

Thanks...
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