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Raraf
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 04:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ain't gonna make it! Since I don't have my manual yet (c'mon Barnett) I asked you guys what the break-in info is. I am gonna explode if I obey!!! I took a spin with a buddy with a CBR929. Took it easy until I hit 50 miles on the Odo. Then 3K rpm for a while...got it up to 3500 when my bud decides to do 120mph in 4th gear. At the end of the ride he tells me he has to quit doing that. I told him to buy a Buell This bike is EVERYTHING I hoped for in fun factor. I just wish it would find neutral a little easier. Frustrating sometimes. I asked for some suspension setting recomendations from the manual a while back and was given the "aggressive" settings from an outside source. Could I get the regular settings recommended for a 180 pounder in gear? At least until the engine breaks in cuz it is too tempting to rev it up otherwise and my bud told me that it would a little easier on my tires too. Thanks for all the help so far guys!
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Darthane
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 04:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WRT finding neutral, you'll find that the tranny shifts easier as it gets some miles onto it, and after one or two initial oil changes I highly recommend switching to a synthetic gear oil - it does wonders for the transmissions in these bikes.

Can't help with the suspension settings, though, sorry.
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Sshbsn
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Suspension settings for a 180 lb rider in gear:

well, there's 160-180, and 180-200 lbs.

first, 160-180:

front fork--
preload # lines 5.5
compression 1.50
rebound 1.50

rear shock--
preload position 3
compression 1.50
rebound 1.25

180-200 lbs:

front fork--
preload # lines 5
compression 1.50
rebound 1.50

rear shock--
preload position 4
compression 1.25
rebound 1.25

"Note all compression and rebound settings are # of turns out from maximum."

Maximum is found by turning the "slotted dial" (adjustment screw to me) clockwise until it stops.

Have fun!
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Ingemar
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My manual gives different values.Page E-45
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Ingemar
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ingemar
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ingemar
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ingemar
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ingemar
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ingemar
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ingemar
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Curtyd
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went stiff at first 3 or 4k, went back to owner's manual recommends and I like it a LOT better. I am 185lbs.
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Sshbsn
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ingemar--

My owners manual and my service manual both state the values I gave. ??? Do you have different suspension on the Euro bikes? I thought it was all the same. Also, we're told to set comp and rebound damping according to weight of rider/cargo, instead of riding and road conditions as on your "Table 15." Actually, it seems like all of it should be taken into consideration for the comp/rebound settings. Thank you for the additional info!
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Dcmortalcoil
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ingemar,

What's the model/year and what country? My manual has a different settings.
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Raraf
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am riding a new 03 xb9s If that helps any
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Raraf
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am sure the values have to be different from a xb9r cuz of the weight dispersion is different and that manual looks like a pic of the firebolt
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Darthane
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, that is a Firebolt manual, and I'm sure the settings are different. The seating and weight distribution are different.
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Ingemar
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hahaha!

And I thought I was helping the guy! Now he's even more confused than before.

I thought I read somewhere he had an xb9r. My wrong I should have checked his profile.

What I didn't know is the manuals are different. I know there are some subtle changes for different countries (emmissions & db's basically), but nothing that would make me even suspect suspension could be different.

Anyway, I'm in the Netherlands, and the bike's an xb9r from jul-02.

I got a service manual from England. I'll check to be sure that has the same tables and settings as my user manual.

Surely the part numbers for the american suspension parts aren't different from the european, are they?
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Ingemar
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sshbsn,

Actually I always learned that springs are set to rider weight and luggage/passenger.

According to riding style and conditions, compression and rebound are set.

Does the USA version of the user manual tell you to set spring preload according to riding style and road conditions instead?

I really don't understand suspension, so that sounds really weird to me.

edited by ingemar on May 24, 2004
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Daveinm
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here are some charts that helped me out.

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Ingemar
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just checked my service manual; has the same tables and settings as my user manual.
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Raraf
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So the summary of all this, I should follow Sshbsn's post. Correct? Since I have an 03 xb9s and I weight 185 with gear.
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Starter
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice picture posting Ingemar.
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Sshbsn
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Raraf--

Well, I gave you the settings for an "R" and don't know why I too thought that's what you had. Maybe it was reading the "CBR" in your first post and the "R" stuck in my pea brain. I'm sorry! I guess you could either start with what you have here and play with it a bit, or maybe somebody with an "S" manual can give you this info. I really don't think the settings can be VERY much different despite the changed seating suspension.
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