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Delta_one
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

somebody had posted some time ago a way to stiffen your clutch with other buell parts from HD for only a few bucks but now I cant find it. can anybody help?
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Swordsman
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL, finally, someone that's not complaining about how weak they are... *ahem* I mean about how difficult the clutch is.

~SM
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Delta_one
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL
you know I thought the pull was stiff when I first got the bike but after half a season it doesn't bother me any more.
what I really want is more friction, I'll grab my next gear hard (very aggressive shift) and sometimes it will slip, I haven't ridden it out slipping I normally lift off the throttle a bit and wait for it to bite then get back into it.
but if there is a cheaper alternative to either replacing or rebuilding the clutch with a higher friction media I am all for trying it.
I only have 12500 miles on my stock 03 so it shouldn't be worn out yet, I plan on double checking the adjustment after my shop screwed the pooch on the rest of the bike I have no reason to believe that was done right either.
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll look at the clutch spring that I got at Bartels for the racebike. It was the stiffest spring I could get for the Sportster (XB) - a good thing for race starts with lots of heat. It wasn't an HD spring... not sure WHO built it.

You can get used to it.

I've got the slipper clutch now - so it's now on my backup clutch.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why is my clutch lever so easy to pull in? I need to try someone else clutch at HC this year.
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Delta_one
Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the clutch was a lighter pull after maybe 06? Its only a wild guess in the dark but some year after my bike the clutch pull was lighter.

but I really don't think mine is that heavy.

slaughter that would be awesome, did it make a real difference on your bike? I just don't want to slip anymore.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It did help a lot. I think that if you are unable to keep it from slipping, you might consider higher performance clutch plates.

How much HP/Torque you putting down?

By the way - I looked at the heavy spring I'd been using and there are NO markings on it so any info I'd give you would be useless beyond saying it's brass-colored (like THAT really helps)

The thing I noticed was that on a re-start or a second race on back-to-back races, I'd feel the clutch slipping for a lap before it'd cool a little bit from the heat of the start.

Alto Carbonite really DOES make awesome friction products - but the heavy spring did work well - and yes, it DID take more "kung fu grip" to squeeze but you get used to it.
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Babyhuey
Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i would pull the clutch apart and measure and inspect the plates before i worried about upgrading the spring. i wouldn't put the cart before the horse,you maybe wasting your time and money.
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Delta_one
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 05:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bummer on the spring Ill look into it at my local shop, if you stop into your dealer again and think about it maybe see if they can tell you what it was. I'll also look into cabonite. Not sure what my numbers are right now but it's an 03 with only bolt on parts, no internals.

Thanks for all the info

Huey. When I pull it down I want to have the parts to put it back right. if the plates need to be replaced something isn't right, obviously slippage is causing premature wear and a stiffer spring will eliminate that on my next set of plates.
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran the stock clutch for 3 years in racing and it seemed to hold up OK though I mostly do clutchless upshifting.

You can shoot Alto a note. They really are a relatively small, UNITED STATES company and they DO respond.

http://www.altousa.com/

They have transmission and clutch friction products for almost every motorcycle, car (clutch AND automatic tranny)

Before getting the slipper clutch, I used to feather the clutch when downshifting and braking to try and slip a little. That would really cause almost double my clutch wear but I got the heavy spring because of slipping after a hard start.

If you're putting down a "normal" range of HP and torque, you really shouldn't see slipping unless the adjustment is way off or something is wrong. I've seen people with a preference for adjustment that is on the edge of slipping with only a slight pull on the lever (the "poor man's slipper clutch")
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Delta_one
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

feathering may be some of my wear but I have only had this bike for 5,000 miles and I know it was babied before me. Ill contact also if I need friction material but I cant afford the labor right now and an a little afraid to pull it all apart by myself.

last question id the 04-05 XB12 clutch spring really that much stiffer than the other bikes? is it stiffer than my 03 9? I may see if I con order the old part, or will I be tearing deep into the clutch that I might as well do the friction material at the same time?

thanks once more for the info slaughter
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