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Jackelfox
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So i changed the rear tire. Had it mounted by a honda shop because the harley shop didnt have the time. The mentioned the didnt think they could balance the wheel, but didnt charge me anything for it. Sooo.. win win? anyhow i put it back on the bike took her for a spin and all seemed fine. .... this is my wife's bike so i didnt ride it for a couple of days and it picked up a nasty habit trying to steer itself, sometimes the way you intend but with more gusto, sometime balking at your request and fighting you the whole way.

I take it home and jump up n' down on the forks. Take her out again, and now she is more consistent in her wierdness. At the slightest lean she starts to fall in fast for a half second and then resists hard. I love the "soul" in a buell but this one up a got possessed on me.

I have a ride tomorrow using both bikes, any suggestions short of pulling the rear again and taking it to the shop for balancing?
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07xb12scg
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take the wheel off and get it balanced...
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Jackelfox
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks, i suppose it might have been easy to not see my last sentence... or to assume i didnt put it there for a reason.
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Buell_41
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"So i changed the rear tire.
I take it home and jump up n' down on the forks."


You got the rear tire balanced yet you're jumping on the forks...

Does trouble leaning have anything to do with balance? I thought if a tire wasn't balanced, it just doesn't wanna stay on the road.
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Dbird29
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 12:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We need to work on it?
You know where I live.

I would take your wheel to Motorcycle Repair & Rendezvous in Murray. Those guys are great on mount and balance.
http://www.motorcyclerandr.com/Home.aspx

What's that front tire like?

(Message edited by dbird29 on July 14, 2007)
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Jkhawaii
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 03:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont think balance would have anything to do with handling concerns.
have the wheels been correctly reinstalled on the bike?
anything damaged?
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Jackelfox
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no damage that i am aware of. Visually all is fine, Since i am not the primary rider i cant say with 100% certainty what the bike has gone through in the last couple of days.

41, i fussed with the forks since the issue shows up in the steering. Yet the rear tire is the only variable i am aware of since the last time it worked correctly.

I would like to rule out wheel bearing or steering bearing issues. I have no idea what bugged up bearings would behave like, anyone else?

Another though is tire pressure? thoughts?

Dbird, i nearly called you about the name of that place, couldnt remember it for the life of me. I still have you # so i should have done it.
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Jont
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Jackelfox,

If you had your tire done at a Honda Shop there is a very good chance that the axle was not tightened correctly. Too tight will crush the spacer between the bearings and can cause premature bearing failure. Loose wheel bearings or a slightly crooked install will cause steering issues. Tire pressure can cause funny handling as well.

I'm down in Santaquin(south end of Utah county). If you want to come down I'd be happy to balance your tire for you and check it over.

Let me know,
Jon
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Cyko_bob
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jackel

Just a thought...check to make sure the tire was installed on the rim with the correct rotation...arrow pointing in the right direction. I have never ridden a bike with the tire installed backwards, so I don't know how much it would affect handling...but just a thought as to your problem.

Let us know what you find out...
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New12r
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

arrow pointing in the right direction.

That is only for making sure the tire has grip in the rain. I flip mine at track days with more lefts than rights or rights with lefts.

I would make sure the profile on the tire was the same, two different tires will handle completely different.
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Halfacre
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have the bishop in your ward give it a blessing. Just kiddin, I've noticed too much tire pressure feels twitchy, less responsive and too little will cause a premature dive in turns and requires alot more negative feedback to correct. Also a mismatch in front to rear tire brands/models can make the bike feel funky. What do you have up front and what do you have in the rear?
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Xring
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've found my bike is very sensitive to tire pressure. As little as 2 psi makes a noticeable and disconcerting difference.

Also, just getting new tires, even the same brand and model, makes a huge difference and will take you a few rides to get used to.

I don't think balance would make any difference in steering, just vibration.

Good luck,
Bill
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Jackelfox
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And the answer is..... (drum roll).... front tire pressure!

fair sized screw right in the tire causeing slow leak, good news is it inst somthing more, bad news. i need to get another freakin tire. Thanks for the help guys!
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