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Rendog
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I done some searching, but didn't find anything. Is there a list of compatible oil filters for the XB12R listed anywhere on the site?
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Percyco
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Manufacturer / Model
HD / 63806-00Y
AC Delco / PF1233
Motorcraft / FL836
Purolater / L14476 <- I've heard good things about this one
STP / S4967
Bosch / 3311
Mobil1 / M1-103 <- the one I use but I'm going to switch
Fram / PH4976 <- Don't use this crappy cardboard one
K&N / HP-1003 <- nice nut on the end of the cap. good for racing if you need to secure it
Wix / 51394
Napa / 1394
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Dmhines
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatever works on a 94 Toyota Corolla ...
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Motornoggin
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Add the Car Quest 85394 (manufactured by Wix, same as NAPA 1394 and Wix 51394). I also don't like Fram filters. Cut one open and you'll see why.
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Buellridersww
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Care to post image of cut up filter? I am curious why Fram isn't the best one and yet they still sell those.
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05mxdiesel
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also throw in the Amsoil EAO09 into the list even though it is three times the price of the other filters listed.
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Rendog
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the quick info. I went ahead and bought the AC Delco one. I've always liked AC Delco filters.
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05mxdiesel
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll be running pure one filters from now on, on this bike. They have some really good numbers on bob is the oil guy standing up to the amsoil ea filters. The price is nice too. Oh and even though I am a function over form guy the outside shell is painty nice and pretty with sparkly paint. Too bad I couldn't get a chrome job like the harley guys!
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Motornoggin
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fram filters have cardboard end caps, narrow pleats, fewer pleats and a simple, wimpy "leaf" spring instead of a coil. I've been in the automotive business for years and cannot recommend Fram filters. They simply are not as good as other filters.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

walmart Super Tech 4967 used to be the same as the Buell original equipment made by Champion, but I haven't seen them lately at my local Wally.
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Cmm213
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use the purolater and paint it, it works for me.
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Percyco
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didnt compile the list, just had it saved to my pc. Here's the site that looks at filters .

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/index.shtml
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These will all fit:

ACDelco # UPF1233
Amsoil SDF10 (EA009(?))
Bosch # 3311
Car Quest 85394
Champion # C138
Fram # PH4967
HD # 63806-004 or 00y?
K&N # hp-1003, KN-177
Mighty # m4477
Napa # 1394
Mobil 1 # M1-103
Motorcraft # FL836
Penzoil # pz39
Purolator # L14476
STP # S4967
Valvoline # vo40
Wal-Mart Super Tech # ST4967
Wix # 51394
Union Sangyo[OEM Toyota Mfg]#C-170
Scotts Performance Billet Oil Filter
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Pokinatcha
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

can anyone vouch for the amsoil eao09 number? is it a car or motorcycle filter? does it matter if it is a car or bike filter?
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147db
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll try this just today:

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05mxdiesel
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The amsoil eao09 is a filter for the nissan pickup that someone else mentioned. I cross referanced it from the purolator filter # that was listed on here. It is $15.30 retail, which makes it not really worth it unless you are using it for more than two oci. Amsoil warranties this filter for 25k or 1yr service interval.
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Sloppy
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Question:

Do all of these filters have the same oil pressure bypass ratings...

If too low, you can suck oil debris into the engine. If too high, you can loose oil volume.
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Tiburondriver47
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an EAO09 on mine now and the EAO10 should fit as it is only 1/2 inch longer. I talked to the Amsoil tech and all the spec's are almost exactly the same as the Wix#51394. The next time i change my filter [next year] i'll use the EAO10 for the extra capacity. I believe the PSI bypass rating was 8-10.
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05mxdiesel
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Tiburondriver47 for that info. Are you using it for more than one oil change interval?
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Prof_stack
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

walmart Super Tech 4967 used to be the same as the Buell original equipment made by Champion, but I haven't seen them lately at my local Wally

Last summer I bought a couple of the ST4967 filters and noticed that they no longer have the pressure relief spring. So either the filter is now different than the OEM or else the OEM lacks the spring.

Anybody else notice this?
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Tiburondriver47
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

05mxdiesel. I use it for one season and one oil change. I use 20/50 MCVQT Amsoil. I usually ride 8,000 plus miles a year. You could probably use it for two years but for the price of 3 qts of oil and a filter one year is good enough for me.If your a perferred customer {$20.00] a year the filter cost me $11.65 and i believe the Wix was 5 dollars and change.

(Message edited by tiburondriver47 on May 19, 2007)
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M_singer
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Question:

Do all of these filters have the same oil pressure bypass ratings...
If too low, you can suck oil debris into the engine. If too high, you can loose oil volume."


I have never heard of a filter having such ratings. The oil pressure relief spring is part of the engine NOT the filter. I think you are confusing the bypass with an anti drain back spring. No need for anti drain back if the filter is mounted inlet end up anyway.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting observation, Professor...........

I have two SuperTech ST4967 filters in the house.

One is in a green and black box. It is exactly like the Buell filters were at the time I bought about 8 of them at Wal-Mart a couple of years ago.

The other one I bought in March in Georgia, also at Walmart, on my way back from March Badness IV.
It is on a Blue and Black box, and as the professor says, it does not have the coil spring.

It does have what is referred to on the box as a "patented anti drain back valve", which looks like blue disc.

The base plate looks just like the older unit, and is stamped AA, which I think is the Champion code, and all the other details of construction are just like the older unit.

Anyone know what this all means?

I must admit that I take particular pleasure in buying an $8.00 part for two bucks, especially when the parts are exactly the same: the occupational hazard of being a life long Cheapskate.

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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been using the Bosch 3311 (six bucks) since I bought my bike. Mainly because Autozone always has them along with Mobile 1 20-50
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Jkhawaii
Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The buell filters are made by the same people that make the AC delco and ST but is of higher quality than ether.
I am sure Champ has different options available to companies as how to manufacture the filter.
like the ST has a cheaper oil seal than the delco or the ST and the Buell filter has a much thicker filter media and a much better oil seal. looks to be the same as the Mobil 1 Champ versions
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