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Marcodesade
Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone had to pay to fix the clutch weep?

I developed the problem again (this is either number 4 or 5!!!), and as my warranty had just expired, the advisor reminded me that my extended warranty has a "deductible" of $50. I wasn't all that put off, but grumbled a little and asked how much it would be to fix it on my own dime.

He told me the parts alone were almost $700, and the total was about $1100 plus tax!!! Can anyone confirm that?
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09_1125r
Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$700 is crazy talk! Chicago Harley has the X2086.1AM kit for $208.81, retail is $232.
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Xnoahx
Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you do decide to let extended warranty fix it (which you should) you would not have to pay the deductable on subsequent repairs if it weeps again after this time.
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Pmjolly
Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just purchased a new rev B clutch cover with new puck and all the seals for the clutch piston and cylinder for less than 400.
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Marcodesade
Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, it's already fixed --- for $50. But I also thought that sounded spendy. I don't know about the labor. How many hours did you spend fixing it PMJ?
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Pmjolly
Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am doing the work this weekend. It won't take very long, maybe an hour or two.
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Bettybuell
Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I may be wrong, but if you have a repeat of the same problem that first appeared under warranty it isn't really fixed. This is exactly what the lemon law addresses. I am pretty sure, if you choose, you can make Harley buy the bike back.
If the dealer won't continue to fix it under warranty, contact Harley customer support and tell them your next call will be to your your Attorney General.

These are the kind of things class action lawyers love to get hold of. Don't back down and let the dealer tell you it's out of warranty, they probably don't even know the law. Seriously, you should never have to pay to have this fixed.
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Buelet
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My extended warranty work for previously addressed items (front rotor) has cost me $0 on subsequent visits for the same thing.
YMMV.
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pmjolly,
Do you think you could post up a how to with some pics on how to fix the clutch leak, mine already had the leak once, and it was fixed under warranty. But I'm afraid it will break again out of warranty, and i want to be able to fix it my self.
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Rex
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you purchased an entire new side case, is the case with the oil sightglass built in? thanks, REX
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Puzzled
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those of you who are out warranty check with Brumbear. He had some upgraded seals made that fit the OEM parts. There are a few sets out there running around and none of them have had any issues with the new seals.
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Pmjolly
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I purchased a new clutch outer cover. It's the cover with the 'puck' on it. It also has an 1125R decal in an arch at the top. I don't think the sight glass is in that piece. Mine does not have it. I have already replaced the original clutch slave cylinder with the updated clutch kit with new seals, cylinder, and piston. I bought new seals this time just in case anything looks bad when I open it up again to install the new cover. I am actually replacing the cover due to a minor tip over. I never had anymore issues with the clutch leaking. I took pictures when I changed it out originally. It is a pretty easy job. I'll see if I can find the thread.
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Pmjolly
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here are a few pictures I took when I replaced the clutch slave cylinder, piston, and seals. Today, when I took the old cover off, I went ahead and replaced all the seals with new ones. The old seals don't have many miles on them, so they are now on the shelf. They still look new.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/581909.html
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Northernyankee
Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So what are the benefits, if any, on upgrading to the Rev B cover and the clutch repair kit? Over just doing the repair kit and leaving the Rev A cover on?

I have just over 2,000 mile on the 08 I just picked up so I am pretty sure I will get the weep sooner or later.
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BUY THE PARTS...ILL DO IT FOR NOTHING !!!
DONT GIVE HD YOUR MONEY

TONY
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Curve_carver
Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Atta boy tony
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got seals made for $8 each and they work great it takes 20 min to change em so Hey Harley

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Pmjolly
Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would have kept the original Rev A cover for the life of the bike. The clutch repair kit worked fine in it. I needed the new Rev B cover due to a minor tip over in the garage. There was a box end wrench on the clutch bleeder valve when it tipped over on its right side. It bent the bleeder sideways so that the threads began leaking. I had little choice but to replace the cover.
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Northernyankee
Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info!
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Northernyankee
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I was out in the garage tonight installing my Evotech Tail Tidy and I look down at the clutch cover and damn if there isn't a small trickle of clutch fluid. I have just over 2200 miles on the bike.

I am off to American Sport Bike to order the kit, but just in case it takes a bit to arrive, how long can I ride with it weeping?
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Dannybuell
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was told by Levi at Latus HD that the cover was beefier.
My first impression with the warranty fix: The clutch seemed faster and smoother then, it still does. :-)
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Pmjolly
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The main difference in the Rev B cover is the 'puck' as everyone is calling it. It's the small round plug in the center of the cover that sorta resembles a hockey puck with a pegasus emblem. The old one was plastic. The new one is metal, aluminum maybe. The new puck is also larger diameter. I don't think the new cover is any thicker or heavier. I held them side by side and did not see much difference other than the puck.
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