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Blackflash
Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If theres going to be post please revise it in american measurement standards.
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Easyrider
Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oke Stage 1 TM, 1125R 2008 model with K&N and Torque Hammer exhaust and Race ECM.



144 HP and 123 NM of Torque (90.7 lb-ft)


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(Message edited by Easyrider on January 26, 2010)
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Blackflash
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





Your welcome
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Easyrider
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks
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Easyrider
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AND THE EBR RACE ECM WITH OUR EXHAUST

144.8 HP and 117 NM of Torque (84,05 lb-ft)

EBR Race ECM,
With our Torque Hammer EXHAUST.
stock headers
closed airbox
k&n airfilter



(Message edited by easyrider on February 09, 2010)
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Tbenson
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Easyrider, it looks like your tune produces around the same numbers.
More usable torque in your tune though.
Good job!

Troy
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Blackflash
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how many pulls were done easy?What was the lowest chart or the average.This is probably the highest chart you have is there a chart you have with multiple runs and the times?No speculation. just want more info .Back to back runs prove things.
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Easyrider
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blackflash

here you go, I adjusted the bike, there where like 160 pulls made total.

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Mikellyjo
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I have been reading around about how the TQ and HP should always cross at 5252 rpm. Yet I see all of the graphs posted by Easy have them cross well after 7000.

Is there a caveat that allows for the TQ and HP to cross where ever? Again, in my readings if the crossing is not 5252 they all say the graphs are bogus.

I am in search of understanding, and am not calling any of the work done by Easy and his crew bogus by any means.

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Easyrider
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Somebody else started this discussion earlier also in another thread I used the search engine and came up with:

The 5252 RPM constant is based on lb*ft of torque. The torque in this diagram is in N*m which will change the constant. I also do not know if the HP is metric or mechanical HP, which will also change the constant. The 5252 RPM constant is only applicable if we use lb*ft of torque. When the units change, so does the constant

The only thing I can say if I use autoscale to let the graph build up by the system or I use my own scale, it isn't changing

The 144 HP is in Mechanical horsepower (hp)
That would be 146.74 Metric horsepower (pk/PS) That is US standard i believe
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D_adams
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Horsepower is a derivative of torque. Mathmatically, they cross at 5250 rpm.
(Torque x Engine speed) / 5,252 = Horsepower

http://www.howstuffworks.com/question622.htm


quote:

Have you ever looked at the specs of an engine in a magazine and seen something like "this engine makes 300 pound-feet of torque at 4,000 RPM," and wondered how much power that was? How much horsepower are we talking about here? You can calculate how many foot-pounds of horsepower this engine produces using a common equation:


(Torque x Engine speed) / 5,252 = Horsepower



The engine that makes 300 pound-feet of torque at 4,000 RPM produces [(300 x 4,000) / 5,252] 228 horsepower at 4,000 RPM. But where does the number 5,252 come from?

To get from pound-feet of torque to horsepower, you need to go through a few conversions. The number 5,252 is the result of lumping several different conversion factors together into one number.

First, 1 horsepo­wer is defined as 550 foot-pounds per second (read How Horsepower Works to find out how they got that number). The units of torque are pound-feet. So to get from torque to horsepower, you need the "per second" term. You get that by multiplying the torque by the engine speed.

But engine speed is normally referred to in revolutions per minute (RPM). Since we want a "per second," we need to convert RPMs to "something per second." The seconds are easy -- we just divide by 60 to get from minutes to seconds. Now what we need is a dimensionless unit for revolutions: a radian. A radian is actually a ratio of the length of an arc divided by the length of a radius, so the units of length cancel out and you're left with a dimensionless measure.

­You can think of a revolution as a measurement of an angle. One revolution is 360 degrees of a circle. Since the circumference of a circle is (2 x pi x radius), there are 2-pi radians in a revolution. To convert revolutions per minute to radians per second, you multiply RPM by (2-pi/60), which equals 0.10472 radians per second. This gives us the "per second" we need to calculate horsepower.

Let's put this all together. We need to get to horsepower, which is 550 foot-pounds per second, using torque (pound-feet) and engine speed (RPM). If we divide the 550 foot-pounds by the 0.10472 radians per second (engine speed), we get 550/0.10472, which equals 5,252.

So if you multiply torque (in pound-feet) by engine speed (in RPM) and divide the product by 5,252, RPM is converted to "radians per second" and you can get from torque to horsepower -- from "pound-feet" to "foot-pounds per second."


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Blower1
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@ Mikellyjo

Metric torque 1 Nm = 0.74 lb/ft or 1 lb/ft = 1.35 Nm
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Mikellyjo
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh sure, throw the whole metric to imperial conversion into the conversation. I see how you guys operate, using complex math to prove your point.

Thanks for the clarification! Metric or imperial, your numbers are impressive for sure. Keep up the good work.
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Blackflash
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love copy and paste.Lol
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

can someone do a TH on a Dyno scaled to American standards. I am not smart enough to try and do the math on that one.

dannybuell
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Easyrider
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

dannybuell, I can't My machine is only giving me this data sorry for that.
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Blackflash
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tell ya what Your charts look great.can you put a baseline in there somewhere easy.I see you will be coming to the states. I live in ohio by cleveland.I might just hit you up.
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Easyrider
Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Black, mail send, Look here in this article all that you want:

http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/artikelen.asp?aid=72

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Dannybuell
Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Easyrider;
Please send me the current pricing on the

"Stock bike with K&N Filter adjusted: The bike makes 134.3 HP @ 9974 RPM and 110 NM of Torque @ 7929 RPM" setup with out the K&N.

Is the "adjusted" from the above quote an ECM mapping or is there more to it. is this a plug and play type of deal and/or are there additional steps?

That setup looks pretty good.

dannybuell

(Message edited by dannybuell on February 19, 2010)
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Blackflash
Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree dannybuell.For street riding I believe its well rounded.
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Easyrider
Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dannybuell, You need to send me your ECM.

I program it and send it back that's it.

You install it when you get it back, reset the TPS, Mount a K&N filter, And have fun..
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Nickg
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

can you reprogram a ebr computer? the 250 one?
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Easyrider
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only when you pay the 500 extra to EBR and send me the ECM and the code that belongs to the ECM.

In that case yes... I do that for more customers.
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Littlebutquick
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

look if you want your arms ripped out there sockets then get a twinmotorcycles fuel map 9.92et @140.71 mph on a stock motor that is cheep horse power .had mine in over a year now and it still makes me smile
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Easyrider
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2015 - 03:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

we now have the stage 1 kit: http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp? guid=YXHFSC&aid=10925&cid=0&s=CR9EKB&a&aname=Buell _1125_Stage_1_Kit_from_Twin_Motorcycles

and we program online, also working on new ECM's to sell. more info please send mail to info@twinmotorcycles.nl
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