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Mxer83
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I second everything that indybueller said, the motor is electric feeling, rear brake is a little odd, footpegs a little buzzy, other than that WOW, this bike is so easy to ride, I have owned 2 tubers and have 2 xbs -1 track & 1 street, This bike beats them all hands down!! Sure there may be a few problems but dont forget these bikes were pre- production models, I was quite impressed!!!!
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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>Dtx
The ramifications are that Chuck gets irritated and the rest of us make another line in the long list of why we buy Buell.
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Josh;

The 9R is the only street bike I have ever ridden on the track, so I really have nothing else to compare it with.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Technically, I think, the release you execute effectively puts you on the line for repairs.

As a practical matter, absent irresponsible behavior, I've not seen that happen. Buell considers it an inherent risk.

They are motorcycles, they fall over.

Frankly, and this is my personal opinion, I'd rather have (presuming zero injuries) something to support my wish that these bikes were being pushed to the limit. The feedback means more, the owners get more and everyone wins.

There's a difference between someone stupidly tossing a bike (like I've done a couple times) and someone pushing the bike near it/their limit and loosing control.

Lessons get learned, better bikes get built.
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Josh...I saw you sent me an email but I somehow deleted before reading. Now it's lost in cyberspace.
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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was trying to figure out which bike vibrates a lot. I can't see the # of the bike I was on in Session#2 Intermediate (the vibey one), but I was on bike #11 for #5and6.

But if you were in the intermediate group then there were 2 vibey bikes at first.

$35 for all pics of you at the track is a steal! I paid $175 for 2-days of pics with CLASS. Can't wait to get 'em.

I wonder what safety-wiring one will cost me. And what a race fairing will cost and how hard it will be to swap. And how hard it will be to change water/antifreeze. Anyone got a trailer for sale?
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TO be honest, I never looked at the numbers on the bikes. I just hopped on and rode (well, mostly rode: D)
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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neither did I, but you can look through the photos and maybe see which one shook the most.

I can't see my # from session 2, I'm hoping the full photos show it.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We need an 1125 Demo Bike "RIP" page... thumbnails of all the riders from the different sessions, right up to the tombstone : )

Maybe put a pool together to bet which ones survive the inside pass season : )
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Trackdad
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was in the beginner session and had the 1125R at 140pm and 340pm! Love the bike as a whole, great engine, excellent front brake and it was smooooth through the corners. Had two different bikes both set up for 170-190 lbs, I'm heavier than that and they both handled me very well.

Still a great new bike for $12K and this should be a feather in Eric Buells trials and tribulations with HD. I think the sales numbers will be surprizing.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll write a revue later. Still looking at my and everyone pics!



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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright.
Overall, THE funniest bike I've ever rode.
Looks? At first when I saw it at Homecoming, I was a little iffy.
Seeing a few times after Homecoming then again this Tuesday, the looks really started to grow on me. I don't even notice the side pods.
I really love the front fairing and I WILL figure out a way to mount one on my race bike.
That is is I don't purchase a 1125 for a race bike.
A lot of the issues others are saying about buzzy, well, I just never noticed it. Not to say it's not there. Just never noticed it.
Bike is way to quiet for me. It's SCREAMING for an after market exhaust.
Took a few laps to get used to the slipper clutch. Doesn't engine brake like the XB.
Brakes are second to none.
Engine is out of this world. Sure we're Buell riders, and as such, some will say we're partial. But I'll be the first one to say something if I don't like it.
I can honestly say, aside from the quiet exhaust, which is pretty much a meaningless complaint, there isn't one thing that I don't like about this bike.
I pushed pretty hard, but not as hard as I'd like to have done.
I'll be honest. The bike scared the shit out of me at one moment. Being used to grabbing a hand full of throttle on the 9R race bike, exiting the corners, I did that on this bike a few laps into my first session.
Well, let me tell you, this bike WILL spin up the rear hard. After my slide, which I believe Mxer83 was behind me to notice, a few things went through my head.
1. It's really early in the day to crash.
2. I don't want to crash my own bike, let alone some one else's.
3. I don't want to get hurt.
4. I don't want to be known as the badwebber that wadded up a 1125. (Sorry Dennis)
5. I don't want to take away some one else's chance cause I screwed up.
So after that I didn't dial it totally down. I was still pushing, but giving plenty of room and not making any risky or stupid moves. Plus it's not racing.

Overall. Great time. As posted above, I give Buell a lot of credit for putting on this Event. Sure, it's a marketing tool. But who cares?
You get to ride an awesome bike.
I give this bike 2 thumbs way up. This bike WILL be the next bike I purchase.
Just a great bike.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW, Chris Owiler was there.
Former racer, author (wrote a book called Highside) and editor of www.trackdaymag.com Keep an eye on his site for a write up.
He seemed to really enjoy this bike.
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No_rice
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i spent the better part of monday pacing tripp nobles on that thing. now i am sure he could have gone alot harder, but our pace was fast for sure when we got some room. he just kept telling me to get back behind him again in the next session so we could make another run at it and who was i to say no!! we were really cruising when the rain kicked in and probably got about half the track covered in the rain before we got flagged off the track. they never missed a beat.

i rode them all day monday and was amazed at the things you could get away with on it. i was purposesly trying to upset it to see the reactions i got and it was not having any of it! i could start carrying the frontend while still in a lean and just coming out of a corner and it would just continue on nice and smooth as if nothing was going on.

i have fun on my xb's sometimes by dumping it down a few gears more than i need and pitching the bike to the side a bit as i dump the clutch. it makes for some fun tail wags when you are expecting it. i tried that on the 1125. i dumped it WAY down and i barely even got a squak out of the tire before it straightened out and i was able to tip it into the corner.

my regular xb brakes are good in their own right, but the 1125's are amazing. i came done the front straight alittle over 140, the person beside me hit there brakes and cut over into my line so they could set up for the corner way early. i realize i brake late, but i was not prepared to brake that soon as i was still on the throttle. needless to say i grabbed 2 fingers worth of front brake at speed and proceeded to hoist the back tire off the ground enough that the rearend was able to step out what seemed like a foot(was probably only a few inches though). i was able to lose so much speed so fast it was great. i eased back off the brakes, the rear set down and got back in line just as i tipped it into the first curve nice and smooth. i couldnt have asked it to be more well mannered.

it is a very well sorted machine. i did notice the buzzing somewhat, and i REALLY noticed how DAMN HOT my right foot got. other than that it was a great experiance!

i did however have a problem with the one i took out on tuesday. that frontend was all over the place. coming out of every corner was a hair raising experiance as the bars shook all over the more i tried to pick up the pace. aven down the front straight they had an extreme shake as i was picking up speed. i am not a person to let something get the better of me so i kept pushing it regardless. when the frontend shake through a corner ended up with me on the rumble strip i finally called it good and made an early exit back to the pits.

after talking with the buell suspension guy(wish i could remember his name) we came to the conclusion that the amount of excessive throttle i like to feed things combined with the fact that the suspension settings werent were i needed them was causing the rear to squat way to much under exceleration and allowing the front to skip around on the track.

i think out of 2 hard days of riding and only having that small, easily correctable problem on one single bike, that it is a good sign!
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Dfbutler
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm signed up for the Willow Springs event next week. I'm confused, do we just ride the new bike or do we ride our own bikes too?
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both. You need to sign up at the event to take out the 1125.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What I've heard is that due to attrition on the demo bikes, and because folks signed up for all the sessions on the bikes and some folks didn't get their fair shot at them, that they've changed the way you sign up. You can only sign up for one once, and then when you come back in from your session on one, you can sign up again for one. That way everyone gets a fair shot at one.

I'd heard they were down to 14 of them, but don't have a confirm on that number.

Al
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Twistad
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At Road America, there were spots to ride the bikes on every session. Everyone that wanted to ride a 1125R could.
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Josh_
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They were running 15 of the Demo bikes at a time and you can only sign up for one session at a time. If you want to run all available sessions (I did), get your name in early after each session.
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Schmitty
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At RA you were allowed to sign up for 2 sessions right away, and then you were ale to come back and sign up for another ride after everyone had registered. I only rode twice, but I could have gone a couple more times.

Schmitty
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They went from 40 to 39 at Mid Ohio, and I thiink we only heard a couple more since then, so there should be more then 15. Maybe they split some off for another purpose.

The "demo session" is abbreviated... you go out after all the other bikes have started, and you come back in before they are done... Those poor things get run in all three sessions in the three session rotation... for 6 hours. Thats a pretty brutal duty cycle.
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Schmitty
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At RA the sessions were only 1 lap shorter than the normal sessions. We went out right after the regular bikes went out and they white flagged us right before they threw the checkered for the session. But yes these things were going non stop for the majority of the day, pretty brutal. I don't think Buell would have it any other way!! What better way to let people demo the bike and get endurance and durability testing at the same time!

By the way the demo fleet may have gotten a bit smaller since Tuesday. There was at least one 1125 down in every session I was out in!!!

Schmitty
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Josh_
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Buell guy told me they were running 15 instead of all of them to give the Buell wrenches a chance to work on the off bikes (tires, brakes, oil,etc).
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