| Author | Message | ||
     Damnut |
Yup it happened. First I noticed the snapped motor mount bolt in the head and thought I could make it home. WRONG. So here I am looking for an S3 front motor mount. Anyone have one laying around? Found this one on Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buell-M2-S3-front-upper-isolater-mount-1997-2002-misc3-/280849813652?hash=item4163f41094&vxp=mtr  | ||
| Jolly |
Might be a good time to upgrade the mount!?! | ||
| Akbuell |
Were it me, if my mount broke, I would check with Al at American Sport Bike first. A billet mount is stronger, and never has to be changed. No more worry about it breaking. With the stock mount, kind of back to square one, not to mention worrying about the integrity of a used part. Hope this helps, Dave | ||
| Harleyelf |
And you didn't need the air cleaner mount anyhow, which is good because the billet one doesn't have it. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Jim, gotta agree with the above advice. Just get one of the billet mounts. $230 and you never have to worry about it again. However I do have two twins to yours here in my garage. Mine are two part mounts too! | ||
| S1owner |
Or if it will fit the first gen S1 mounts are great | ||
| Tombo |
Agree with S1 Owner, the first generation S1 mounts are an outstanding option. Much stronger and no air cleaner arm (they had a steel arm that screwed on). These are very hard to find, only 96 S1s had them. They look the same as the S2 mounts but are not (the holes are slightly different). Doubt you will find one so American Sport Bike is an excellent option. I have an S&S billet mount that will eventually go on my S3, but that one is no longer made. | ||
| Buellistic |
OLD SCHOOL: If the OEM FRONT MOTOR MOUNT is installed correctly it will stand the test ... The REASON "i" can say this is "i" bounced off a car and broke my OEM ONE ... The Dealer technician installed a new one (1998)which did not last no time ... "i" correctly installed the next one myself and my bike now has 111.819.6 as of the last ride ... THEY CAN BE RE-WELDED !!! Always remember that RACING PARTS are always better, BUT YOU LOOSE THE FRONT AIRBOX MOUNT !!! ISOLATOR Class 101, just PM me for a copy ... | ||
| Phelan |
I'd sell my S2 mount. $110 shipped US48. As mentioned above, much stronger than the later mounts. Never seen an S2 mount break. | ||
| Dannybuell |
110% agreement with Buellistic. Each part of the tube frame assembly connects to some sort of control that takes a part of the stress/load. If the front isolator is bad, the rest of the bike gets more load from the slop which translates into additional shearing forces. be sure to check the front isolator while you are at it, right? 96S1 w 106,000 miles... | ||
| Jefc73 |
I have a billet mount from American Sport Bike with new bolts I will sell for $200 shipped | ||
| Damnut |
Damn thanks guys for all the responses. Phelan & Jefc73, Let me check funds as I just got back from WVBR and I'm leaving for New Orleans in a few weeks for vacation with my wife. The Nawlins trip is a surprise trip for my wife for our anniversary so it's all coming from my "play" funds. | ||
| Phelan |
N'awlins eh? | ||
| Damnut |
Yeah, I've never been and been wanting to check it out for a while now. We are leaving the morning of our anniversary. She doesn't know anything about it and won't until that morning. Already have a tour of the city booked. | ||
| Loose1 |
A new one, cheep. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buell-Front-Isolator-Mount -Recall-Kit-Code-0810-OEM-93916Y-/301717830391?has h=item463fc8baf7&vxp=mtr | ||
| Tombo |
An S2 mount won't fit an S1, S3, or M2 without modification. The 96 S1 mount is very close to the S2 mount but will fit S1, S3 and M2 models, and similar to Phelan, I have never seen a broken S2 or 96 S1 mount. | ||
| Phelan |
Really? Wow, interesting. What's the difference? | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I think you're supposed to replace those two monster bolts when something like this happens. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I want to say thunderstorm heads have different bolt spacing. I'll have to check my S2, its been so long since I converted it I can't remember. Jim, if you need one asap to get on the road and can replace it sometime, my S3 defender is nowhere near needing it's front mount at the moment...I may even have fresh bolts (yes, they're single use bolts). Lemme dig in the pile o sh...er, garage.  | ||
| Gowindward |
IIRC the S2 uses smaller bolts than the later bike models. | ||
| Dannybuell |
XB heads have different spacing... | ||
| Buellistic |
OLD SCHOOL: "NOTE" what Gowindward just typed !!! "S2's" USE SMALLER MOUNT TO HEAD BOLTS AND THE "LATER MODELS" HAVE LARGER BOLTS ... THAT IS A HINT THAT THE OLDER MODELS SHOULD BE UP-DATED !!! The latest FRONT ISOLATOR has a small BOLT and SINCE IT IS A RETRO FIT FROM THE BIG TWIN WHERE THE MOTOR SITS ON IT SHOULD BE UP-DATED TO THE OLD OEM SIZE BOLT FOR "SAFETY" !!! | ||
| 1313 |
The S2 front isolator MOUNT used one smaller and one larger bolt to mount to the cylinder head. The later front isolator MOUNTS used 2 of the larger sized bolts to mount to the cylinder head. Sorry this has absolutely nothing to do with the size of the front isolator bolt. It remained the same throughout tuber production. If the Elves saw fit to change that later on... To bring this back on topic, when I added the Thunderstorm heads on my S2 I drilled out the smaller mount hole on the S2 front isolator MOUNT to the larger size. I've never seen an S2 front isolator MOUNT fail either, FWIW... 1313 | ||
| 1313 |
Oh yeah, a potential front isolator MOUNT failure is what scares me to death about restoring my 1998 S3T Defender. If I could get a billet one that would mount the stock S3/S3T airbox, I'd likely make that one concession to originality... 1313 | ||
| Phelan |
My S2 mount was bolted to Thunderstorm heads, so I guess this mod was already done? | ||
| Tombo |
Phelan, 1313 is correct, it is the head bolt size that is different so it may be that yours was modified. 1313, you probably already know this, but the 96 S1 used a steel arm to connect the air box to the front mount via a screw hole in the mount itself, so you might use the same method with a billet mount. Not original but a good trade-off and if you were able to locate a 96 S1 mount and arm it would still be comprised of factory parts. | ||
| Damnut |
So from what I read here, I can use an S1, S2 or S3 mount on my S3. I would just need to enlarge one of the holes that mount to the head of the earlier model stock mounts, right? (Message edited by damnut on August 20, 2015) | ||
| Ratbuell |
Brankin-I have to go check my t-storm S2, but I don't think I changed (or drilled - if that was required, I'd have changed it) my mount when I changed heads. I'll also try to compare its mount to my Defender's mount. Dannybuell may have it right - XB heads are the difference. Somewhere here on badweb is my thread about my t-storm conversion. I'll let an admin find it (lol). ...and, as long as you don't do too many wheelies (use the 1190 for those!)...your defender mount should hold up just fine  | ||
| Tombo |
The lightning and T-Storm heads are the same as far as the mounting bolts, but the S2 heads are different, and the xb heads are different from all of those. I have a variety of mounts lying around and will gather them for a picture when I get a chance. | ||
| Damnut |
Just bought this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buell-Front-Isolator-Mount -Recall-Kit-Code-0810-OEM-93916Y-/291544583776?has h=item43e1694e60&vxp=mtr |
