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Kanatuna
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When building my 1125 race bike I couldnt find any affordable options for a damper/stabilizer. Regardless of the brand they cost about $500.

A buddy and I wound up fabricating a bracket that mounts to the neck of the bike/below the fairing stay. It utilizes a stock GSXR damper and a Shindy fork mount.

I was wondering if anyone here would be interested in buying this set up if we were to produce a dozen or so. We would supply the bracket/damper/fork mount/hardware and the drill bit and instructions needed for installation. Its not just a bolt up and go though...it requires drilling into the frame, which technically "totals" the bike.

It works really well(race tested last week)and would cost about $200 per unit.

Thanks,
Tuna
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Albert666
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

this is what i did, ohlins damper from fleabay and made my own brackets

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Cherry_bomb
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

albert: i would reroute that brakeline to the other side of that bracket. in case of hard steering or a tankslapper, it would probably cut that line there or damage it at least. the steering stop limiter is important, if you put on the clip-ons.

apart from that it looks pretty similar to the ebr-set.

(Message edited by cherry_bomb on March 24, 2013)

(Message edited by cherry_bomb on March 24, 2013)
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Albert666
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i just tried it lock to lock and it doesn't come close to the line
thanks for the heads up though
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Battyone
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a similar set up to Al,but with a cheap damper and on top of the fairing mount, works great and still uses the steering stops.

Not rocket science to do,just takes a bit of care getting everything to work together.

In this day and age it was pretty piss poor that they came without one as standard
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Kanatuna
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That works too. lol

The throw and routing is pretty important. I used the shortest throw/stock damper I could find in order to limit interference with cables etc.
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kanatuna, interesting, but the drilling the frame makes it something I wouldn't be comfortable doing. I'd prefer to make any "permanent" mods to my bike.

Albert, your setup looks nice. I could've sworn you'd posted that before and I'd asked you if you were interested in selling it. If the price is right, I'd buy it!
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Kanatuna
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does the pictured damper mount connect with the other side or....?

I would think it would need two plates, one for each side of the fairing stay in order to be strong enough.
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Stensg
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What length damper did you guys use?
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Stirz007
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you want to go low-budget, you can get used GSXR dampers for less than $40 - you will have to fab mounts, of course. I'm currently building a Ninja 250 track/race bike using that set-up. (Nasty tendency for tank-slappers on the Ninja)
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Stensg
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sweet what size is the fork mount?
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Kanatuna
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tank slappers on a 250 Ninja? I ran nearly 100 hard race laps on a 2nd gen at Jennings in November. I never once felt the bike do anything remotely close to a tank slapper. Your ride height #'s good?

Stensg - 54mm
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Burnettmartha
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 03:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey,Buddy,I want to buy the setup so ,How can I contact you to buy it?.
fixed gear
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Battyone
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 06:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You don't need to drill the frame!!! you just bolt a bracket on with the fairing mount bolts,just like Albert's pic.
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Kanatuna
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's true...you dont have to drill the frame if you go your route. However, if he is interested in the set up I have, he does. lol
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Smit3833
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a used GPR steering damper in the buell classified here if your interested.
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ooooh Albert, where are you? We want you to sell us those brackets!
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Albert666
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i did a post about it a few years ago when i made my first one, i'm in uk but visit florida as often as possible






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Stirz007
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Tank slappers on a 250 Ninja? I ran nearly 100 hard race laps on a 2nd gen at Jennings in November. I never once felt the bike do anything remotely close to a tank slapper. Your ride height #'s good?"

You could be right - but I have seen them go batty in bumpy turns. Plus, I'm putting my youngest son on this, and as I see it, it's cheap (better than no) insurance. Kenny Anderson was running a 250R when his crash followed a tank slapper, so it does happen to even skilled riders.
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Albert, would you be willing to make more brackets? Your exhaust work looks nice and is reasonably priced, so I'd expect good things from your steering damper mounting kit!
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Kanatuna
Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stirz- Thats a shame about Kenny. I met and raced against him back in May. Great kid and super talented.

I meant nothing about you mounting a damper on the bike. Just have never heard of them being notorious for tank slappers...

The bike I raced was a borrowed street bike. Stock suspension/brakes etc. Just threw on some gsxr/ducati/r6 plastics and raced it. The bike was phenomenal.
This was the race.
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/dynoworks-1st- republic-of-speed-win-jennings-gp-endurance-races- updated/
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Stirz007
Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didn't take your comments in a bad light at all. I've heard both sides of the 250 slapper story from "why bother" to "you definitely should". I figure at one end of the spectrum it can't hurt and at the other end, cheap insurance.

Of course I just finished paint and bodywork last weekend, now get to take it all apart again to fabricate and weld frame mount......... THEN I have to get the 1125 back together.
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Kanatuna
Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's simple with WERA...."You have to have it or you don't race" lol

Good luck on the builds man.
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Shooter77_98
Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2013 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey fellas, I have a 2010 CR...will this work on mine? I hope as I haven't found any steering damper that works at all on mine.
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Kanatuna
Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They will work fine. You will see the damper though. The 1125R's upper covers the damper.
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