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Georgehitch17
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't like to rag on people but you guys have to be kidding me! Saying "they are very reliable" look at the posts in the stator thread its thousands!!!!!! Don't get me wrong I've owned three of theses 1125's They are badass and my favorite bike ever but please don't call it something its not!! It can be turned into a reliable bike I just don't get how tards on 800lb Harleys don't snap there belts when they have 130hp at the wheel
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Kinder
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake: If you're referring to XB's I agree 100%. But I think the people here with 08 cluster issues, 09 stator/vr issues, those with TPS/fueling concerns would disagree. ; )

I think once you spend the time and money doing the 'correct' fixes we may have a reliable bike. Now if we only knew all those fixes...... :P
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can only speak from experience. My 2009 that is bone stock and for sale presently has had only one warranty issue: a stuck rear MC.

It has 7,000+ miles, and most of them are track day miles.

My first 08 had the typical litany of minor nits: clutch seal, blinkers going out, etc., but managed 40,000 miles before I finally replaced the motor after having tracked that bike the last 15k of it's life.

My second '08 was sold after a year with 10k on it and not a *single* issue through the life of that bike.

I understand they have been troublesome for some here. My three bikes were not.

*Now* once I made one a full on race bike with a prepped motor, I started having some issues! But, that bike is abused so badly and beat on so hard. It's really not fare to measure a true race bike with the expectation set of a street rider.

I wear out rotors and wheel bearings on that bike... even roached a couple of Mg wheels, among many other ailments. I burn two clutch packs a season. yadda, yadda yadda. Full on race is a different animal.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nearly 2 years, 16,000 miles and counting, my biggest issue has been my crank breathers spewing oil. My 1125R is the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned, period. My R has had 0 days of downtime other than scheduled maintenance. My CR hasn't been perfect, but it doesn't have a shopping list like the few mentioned above.


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look at the posts in the stator thread its thousands!!!!!!




There is also over a thousand posts on here regarding what color should someone paint their bike, another thousand posts on what oil is the best, and another thousand posts on why the Erik Buell Racing ECM is great. Another thousand posts on belts, another thousand on headlight bulbs, and so on. All it means is that there is a lot of discussion on it. Hell I'm sure there are more than a thousand posts on the XB charging systems too.
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Daggar
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 08 is a little over 3 years old with 24k+ miles. I've had a few common, minor issues, but this bike has been crazy reliable for me.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good point, the problems always get a lot of air time. But the idea that Japanese bikes are so much more wonderful is complete nonsense. All you have to do is google the Japanese model of your choice and the word "problem" and you'll be reading for days.

A minor fluid leak is not something I'd ever even think to put on a list concerning reliability issues. Same for a brake rotor. Having to perform a few unscheduled maintenance tasks is no big deal. Some make it out to be the outrage of their lives.

Ask me about my Yamaha sometime. My riding buddy nicknamed it the "Nightmare".
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reliability of the 1125R is like what others have said: "It can be made reliable" after all the proper parts have been installed/replaced.

I had a 2001 Hayabusa for 6+ years and 52k miles. NOTHING went wrong with it. That's reliable.

I had a 2001 VFR800 and I put 30k miles in it. It was beat on and crashed by its first owner up to 6k miles. I put the rest of the miles. I crashed and totalled it in '08. NOTHING ever went wrong with it and I did kind of ride that bike hard too. That's reliable.

I had an '06 XB12R Firebolt for 5 years and 30k miles. Fuel pump wiring went bad and I had to replace the wiring harness. Cooling fan bearing went bad and I had to replace the fan. Front rotor warped so I had to replace that. Headlight wore out due to heat. One can say these are minor issues, and they were compared to the 1125R issues. But I would hardly call that reliable. I did make it reliable after I fixed them! : )
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Georgehitch17
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jap bikes have plenty of issues! but when you factor in how many gsxr's are out there vs. how many have severe issues. It will be way smaller than doing the same comparison with our 25r/cr. But I knew this before buying I just had to complain somewhere and badweb seemed to be the place that would feel my pain!! lol
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anecdotal, just as my awful experience with the Yamaha.

A quick google search for Hayabusa and VFR 800 problems shows the following and a LOT more...


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1999 SUZUKI HAYABUSA ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE Recall
1999 SUZUKI HAYABUSA ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE
Units affected: 2670 AMERICAN SUZUKI MOTOR CORP.
Report Date: 1999-10-12
Summary: VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: MOTORCYCLES. THE SPRING IN THE CAM CHAIN TENSION ADJUSTER CAN BREAK ALLOWING THE CAM CHAIN TO JUMP TO THE WRONG POSITION ON THE CAM SHAFT SPROCKETS. IF THE CHAIN JUMPS TO THE WRONG POSITION, SEVERE ENGINE DAMAGE COULD OCCUR CAUSING SUDDEN ENGINE FAILURE. Read More!




Got a 2000 hayabusa, instrument panel back brake light and turn signals out, replaced 15amp fuse, rode the bike next morning same again?...






02 Busa cuts off when the kickstands up and the bike is put into gear.






Bike runs fine when idling but when rapidly accelerating at about 6000 rpms the bike cuts off. When the rpms get lower the bike comes back on






it wont start and the wiring from the battery is hot






Bike starts and runs but when it warms up (running for about 20 30 minutes) it won't start back up until it cools down.






4 th spark plug is not firing, i have changed ht coil and spark plug also checked connecting wire but still problem exsist..






I HAVE A 2000 SUZUKI HAYABUSA AND THE SPEEDOMETER HAS STOP WORKING BUT THE RPM SIDE WORKS I REPLACED THE SENSOR BUT THE PROBLEM STILL EXSIST






I bought a brand new 2008 hayabusa and now Iam having problems with the battery keeps runing down.






I have a 2009 model Suzuki Hayabusa. The turn signal fuse which is 10amp keeps blowing. This leaves me with no turn signals, rear tail light, brake light, and no dash functions.






Brand new 2008 Hayabusa, I am having problems with the battery keeps running down.






I have a 2006 Busa and bought it new. From the beginning it had a dead spot on the throttle start. Also it has a miss when idling or when riding slowly.






Having an issue with my '06 Hayabusa's drain plug leaking. I have changed it twice now & it is still leaking.






'06 Hayabusa broke down -- FI light came on & bike just died -- can anyone help, what could be the problem?






my 01 hayabusa shuts off when i hit the front brake. the oil light comes on and the fi light flashes three times.






i have an 08 hayabusa with 3,000 miles. it will start in neutral but the bike will shut off when shifting to any gear other than neutral. the clutch hand lever still has pressure.






my hayabusa is 2004 with 19000km, i just bought today from a dealer and found 2 problems, 1 is it wont start in nuetral but will start in first gear, the CHEC light came up briefly, secondly when accelerating and the engine reaches 7000rpm it missfires and gets a boost of power back, its not the chain because they set it up and i checked it myself, its coming from the engine






When I am riding in 2nd my 2000 Busa feels like it is jumping as I turn the trottle. I have to click through 2nd to 3rd if I want a smooth ride.






SUZUKI GSX1300RX(11/1999 MODEL) CODE 41( FUEL PUMP/ RELAY) NO GO ...

Code 41 displayed ie c41 "Fuel pump control system (FP control system). Genuine manual says its the fuel pump or the fuel pump relay as likely cause. The motor will turn over but will not start up !






hi, i have a 99 suzuki hayabusa, engine is turning over but wont start, kill switch seems 2 b switching itself off, when its in the off position with ignition on the temp gauge goes 2 top, any ideas?






The chain on my Hayabusa popped, I need crank case, pump, impeller assembly.







bike shuts off after stopping. no engine check light comes on nor does the FI light come on. 2002 GSXR 1300 4034 original miles...A very young bike to be having problems (Low Miles)






2006 suzuki 1300 hayabusa cranks and runs great but smokes alot of white smoke







my hayabusa is still not charging the battery after the mechanic change the stator.






One of the wires from my igniton was cut somehow and i think it grounded out and now tha bike isn't doing anything.






I filled up my 07 busa and now it doesnt want to start... didnt have a problem b4, filled it up with premium like normal just passed the neck of the tank... and went to start it it and it tries to start but wont catch.






I have bought a brand new Suzuki Hayabusa and ever since I have taken delivery of the same I have battery charging problems

1.The battery discharges within 10-15kms of use and the bikes stalls dead

2.Upon properly recharging the battery as per recomended specification the above problem persists.

3.Also I have noted by aid of an electrician that the battery does not charge upon starting the bike,the voltage is seen raising to 12-12.5 v







03 hayabusa when in 1st or 2nd when you romp on it it is almost like it makes a full revolution then it grabs and moves out.






When i turn on my 06 Hayabusa lights the headlight comes on but the tail light stays off unless i hit the break. And also the turn signal and hazard lights arent working. I checked the fuse box on the front left side beside the speedometer, and no fuses were blown.






i turned the key on, then all of my power went off. i heard a tick, so i'm thinking a fuse blew?






i'm having a problem with my bike its the charging, if i charge the battery or buy a new one it runs that day, then i have to recharge it in order to ride again.






when i try using my left and right turn signals the hazards come on.






2007 hayabusa check engine light comes on, unable to start, temperature gauge not resetting on start sequence.







Battery wont hold charge, intermittent, new battery fitted, on suzuki hayabusa 2002.







my 01 busa 5th gear is not engaging fully.grating sound.any solution?







2006 Hyuabusa: I'm in the Military and I've been away for awhile, my bike has been sitting for about 6 months now it won't start. It ran just fine before I left, I bought a new battery and spark plugs, when I press the the start button not a sound, I even tried the spark test according to the owners manual but still nothing. What could be the problem?







Problem with the 2007 Suzuki GSX 1300 R Hayabusa: It runs for 6 to 10 seconds more if i give it more throttle. After it dies I have to give it more throttle and it backfires and blows fire out of the exhaust pipe. In order to get it to run I have to remove the spark plugs then put them back in.





From MCN concenring Hyabusa Quality/Reliability: The wheel bearings have been known to collapse occasionally at relatively low miles. The real problem with long term GSX1300R Hayabusa ownership is the quality of the finish on many components, which is poor. It rusts, it pits, it discolours its alloy, unless you really keep on top of it and clean every nook and cranny. Exhausts rot too.






Tranny problems on 07 Hayabusa
Hey what's up im a new rider and got the balls to buy an 07 Hayabusa as my first bike... I got it 3 months ago and the bike has prob 5200 miles on it right now... About 1500 miles ago started to notice a prob in 2nd gear.. At first i thought it was me but my friends who have been riding for years told me i have a tranny prob.. At high output the bike shifts out of gear and back into gear at 7000 rpm and now does it at 7000 8000 and 9000 rpm. My dealer said the same thing and the bike is now being torn apart to see whats wrong with the bike... Has anyone else gone through this cause suzuki is blaming me for the prob and says its abuse on my part.. Im really ticked off cause i have never gotten the bike in the air or stunted the bike im a new rider and have no exper. to do that... I hope the bike is defected and suzuki will pay for it cause i really feel like im getting crapped on and it has also brought down my confidence in riding...

Follow-up posts to the above:

It's a common problem on the busas.







"It's a very common problem, i would have thought it would have been sorted out long before the 2007's. I have pics at my site below. Sad

Do a search on this site with 'gear fork' and you will get lots of insight on the problem."






suzuki trannys have sucked since before the busa's . They dont seem interested in rectifying the problem and wont stand behind thier product via warranty .
Pull it out and send it to R&D and be done with it... It'll work as well as a stock zx14 tranny then...
yes I said that....






I got here a Busa 2006 with the same prob.It was by Suzuki - they took it apart ( I do not know what they did or replace ) last year, now the same Prob. by high Rpm`s the first gear pops out for a short time then goes back in. I took it apart yesturday --- well I do not see much damage................
I am realy thinking what I shall replace ..






My '06 Busa had the exact same problem at 8500 miles and I do not abuse it. It is my daily commuter. It was a bent shift fork that caused the second gear dogs to wear out, thus causing it to jump or slip. Suzuki would not warranty it. They said it was rider abuse. WRONG! Now at almost 19,000 miles it is doing it again. Looks like the fix is to undercut second gear and install billet shift fork shafts vs. the stock ones.




On to the VFR, supposedly the gold standard in reliability...



2002-2005 HONDA VFR800 ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING Recall
2002-2005 HONDA VFR800 ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING
Units affected: 6952 HONDA (AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.)
Report Date: 2007-08-15
Summary: ON CERTAIN MOTORCYCLES, THE FRONT FAIRING SUB-HARNESS (SECTION OF THE WIRING HARNESS) TRANSFERS THE ELECTRICAL GROUNDING LOAD OF THE HEADLIGHTS, FRONT TURN SIGNALS, INSTRUMENT PANEL, AND VARIOUS RELAYS TO THE MAIN WIRING HARNESS VIA AN 18-PIN CONNECTOR. UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS, THE GROUND WIRE TERMINALS INSIDE THE CONNECTOR CAN OVERHEAT, RESULTING IN MELTING OF THE CONNECTOR AND A LOSS OF POWER TO VARIOUS CIRCUITS.






2002-2004 HONDA VFR800 SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC Recall
2002-2004 HONDA VFR800 SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
Units affected: 36,046 HONDA (AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.)
Report Date: 2005-01-24
Summary: CERTAIN MOTORCYCLES EQUIPPED WITH COMBINED-BRAKE SYSTEMS HAVE A PROPORTIONING CONTROL VALVE (PCV) THAT MECHANICALLY PROPORTIONS BRAKE FORCE WHEN THE REAR BRAKE IS APPLIED. A SEAL IN SOME PCVS IS IMPROPERLY SHAPED, AND BRAKE FLUID LEAKAGE MAY OCCUR.






Only problems I had with my VFR 800 were the timing chain tensioner failed and was replaced under warranty and the "tip sensor" failed and was also replaced under warranty. Higher K's may have produced more problems but I doubt it.





My '02 suffers (suffered - got a PCIII now) from fuelling issues - surging at low throttle openings. They suffer from the venerable Honda electrical problems and can fry the rectifier.






The VFR 800 had timing issues because of a honda timing chain issue which was rectified by the use of gear driven cams on later models.



There's a LOT more. I just grabbed a few examples from a quick google search. They are all great bikes. Some particular specimens are not as great as others. Lots of tranny problems with the Busas. Lots of stalling and electrical problems with the VFR.


The supposed infallible Japanese motorcycle reliability put into perspective on a Buell forum.

You're welcome. : D
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You gotta like the one where a broken chain took out the engine case and water pump.

The exact same think happened to a friend on his Ducati, except it was air-cooled, so no water pump issue, just the destroyed engine case.


Darn belt? : ]
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay nice post Blake.

But let's put all this into perspective. Suzuki sold about 10,000 Hayabusa's every year from 2000-2008 (whenever the new model came out). That's a lot of Hayabusas.

Honda sold 1,500+ VFR800's in the USA for many years, year after year. That's just the 5th generation. More with the 6th generation. That doesn't count the European VFR800's. That's a lot of VFR800's running around out there. The wiring harness recall was well know.

Now, how many 1125R's were sold in 2008-2009? How many of them had warranty issues plus how many had KNOWN problems that were so common that us owners know it so well? The clutch weep? The instrument cluster? The stators, the rear brake seizing, the front fork seals, oil leaks on the valve covers?

I would guess that every single '09 has the stator problem and clutch weep problem. I would also wager that most '08's have the instrument cluster problem. If it hasn't acted up it will eventually. These issues are not due to a bad batch of something or a production lot that went bad, they are due to a design flaw that needed to be rectified (not necessarily replaced with the same part that will fail again later). Has there been any 2008 model that never developed any problems (not recall related)? Are there any 2009's that has had a stator not fail or clutch not weep?

I love my 1125R. I'm okay with being realistic and look at this 1125R ownership experience with eyes open. We know all the issues (warranty or recall) these bikes have had. Like I said, it can be made reliable but many of them are NOT reliable straight out of the showroom. AT least not the '08-'09.

(Message edited by rogue_biker on August 23, 2011)
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I would guess that every single '09 has the stator problem and clutch weep problem




Thats funny! I know of many 09's with over 10k miles and no stator or clutch issues!


quote:

I would also wager that most '08's have the instrument cluster problem. If it hasn't acted up it will eventually.




16k here, no issue.


quote:

Has there been any 2008 model that never developed any problems (not recall related)?




Mine.


quote:

Are there any 2009's that has had a stator not fail or clutch not weep?




Mine hasn't had a clutch leak.


quote:

Like I said, it can be made reliable but many of them are NOT reliable straight out of the showroom. AT least not the '08-'09.




I have never seen a problematic 1125 outside of this board. Everyone I know with them loves them, some have had the common issues, but most of them have been trouble free. Hell I even know one that dropped a valve, but you don't see that getting posted on here every day either. Making any opinion on the reliability of something based on a handful of accounts on a web forum is just stupid to say the least.
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think ignoring the fact that the 1125R's production numbers are incredibly low and the ratio of that to the amount of well known problems & recalls is stupid.

I'm glad you love yours. But please, you don't have to drink gallons of Buell cool-aid. Call a Spade a Spade. We love our Buells and we forgive the 1125R's many known issues.

(Message edited by rogue_biker on August 23, 2011)
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 1125 has been 100% reliable as well. Im just shy of 14k now. My Xb was awesome as well. 26k with no problems. However my cbr was a piece of crap. I was wrenching on that thing all the time. I finally sold it and it didnt even have 6k on it. Ill take some more buellaid please.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, I forgot that the fact that I have 30,000+ reliable miles on two 1125s, and over 100,000 miles on Buells in general means that I am drinking koolaid because I am not an anomaly with a problematic bike. Sorry to confuse you or make you think that because the majority of them being problem free that they aren't as reliable as anything else from any other manufacturer.


My Suzuki must of been the greatest bike on earth with its 2 month lead times on parts for an in production bike, and countless hundreds of dollars and hours I spent chasing down stupid issues on it.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so...BACK ON TOPIC...

to the OP - check every single tooth on both pulleys. look at the wear patterns. make sure there are no burrs. make sure the belt is tracking straight and not against one of the side fences. once you check a tooth, mark it with a sharpie so you know you checked it.

check your belt tensioner pulley. make sure it spins free and clean. make sure IT doesn't have any burrs on it.

check your belt guards. make sure they don't show any wear from belt contact.

and...if you think wheelies don't cause shock loads as long as you don't "dump the clutch"...you need to re-evaluate.

but it does seem like there is more going on here than just hard riding...
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Georgehitch17
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Ratbuell its appreciated!
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Dmfb88
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey mine was the one that dropped a valve lol. Beside that clutch weep fixed at three thousand miles and that's it, 17000 now no other real problems. I also have blown three motors in my first gmc pickup and a trans and a rear end in my current one. My friends with jap bikes have all had problems too like fi errors o2 sensors servo in the exhaust fork seals and such. All mechanic stuff will wear out. I don't hold it against the bike just fix it and keep going.
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Dmfb88
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A little more to add the machine shop informed me the valve dropped due to most likely an over rev of the motor (woops). They also were surprised of the minimal damage it caused and said under his breath "dang must be a tough motor". He also had a few Harley motors torn down too that were blown way the f up.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This thread took a wrong turn into an oak tree...

If you ask Ratgin, the 1125 is a basket full of trouble.
If you ask Paul in Seattle with 60 or 70 THOUSAND miles or Neil in Tennessee or a hundred others(or more), it's a VERY reliable bike.
If you ask ME, with 27 thousand miles, it's the most fun, amazing, easy to work on, best handling etc. machine I have EVER piloted.
I have taken Loretta on two 3k mile+ road trips without hesitation or glitch.

They all have the potential for a few endemic troubles but Nothing That Cannot be Fixed.
I paid $13.3k for the privilege of the first 1125 in Colorado. The second and third weren't any cheaper tho...
If you got yours at fire sale price, spend FIVE THOUSAND $$ to get 2 sets of 2008 stator/rotor and you're still in for less than us early adopters...


The under the seat belt in Zac4mac's picture shows a mishandled belt.

Very true Danny, intentionally abused as a test courtesy of Buell R&D, back when Buell Motorcycle Company was still in business.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/633717.html

Court got it and sent it to me for a "real-world" test. 11k miles on that belt.
It is passing with flying colors. Pretty good place to put a used belt as a spare.

You'd think this was Winter, what with all the Twisted Panties.

Z
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

97K miles on 96 CR and 13K miles on CR, I am happy as a clam! CR has gpsuspension, Barker, Erik Buell Racing ECM. When I switched off the harness the thing came ALIVE with torque from idle on up. My experience tells me that the low volt harness kept the bike from running properly.

Zac4mac - I need friends like yours!
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Doerman
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This whole conversation reminds me of a time when I sat down and talked with a Harley store owner in Cincinnati back in the mid 90ies.

He was in his mid 80ies then.

He gave me some sage advice.

About motorcycles.
"if it's got two wheels and a powerful engine it's like a beautiful woman. It will give you trouble.

About life after 50;
- Never waste a hard on.
- Don't pass a bathroom. The next one might be beyond your bladder capacity
- Never trust a fart. It could be a wet one.

So.. in general. There really isn't much to get wrapped around the axle about.
-
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You'd think this was Winter, what with all the Twisted Panties.

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Rt_performance
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 02:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Back to the topic..... George. You need to pull the front pulley and check the coush drive.
If your breaking belts alot it must be shocking the belt.
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Jules
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 05:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 I'd be looking at the cush drive too, on the whole the belts seem to be pretty reliable - as good as (if not better) than chains.

Being a lazy so-and-so I've managed to snap 3 chains over the years (been riding 30 years). The first one flew up, smahed the bike of the bike to pieces then flew up and hit me in the back of the head (very nasty).

The second fired out of the rear of the bike and into the radiator of the car behind. Weirdly he didn't stop but there was a small stream of his coolant heading off into the distance...

The third one took out the engine case, it would've been a VERY expensive repair if I hadn't used JB Weld...which held for over 10k miles after and was going strong when i sold the bike.

I've had issues with the 1125 too, but so far (touch wood) it's never left me stranded, never been on a recovery truck so I categorise that as "reliable-ish"

I've had some issues with Jap bikes in the past, the Buell is not much worse than any of them - and TBH looking at anecdotal evidence on the net (dangerous I know) it seems that a lot of modern bikes are having similar issues.

I suspect it's the old "nothing is made now as well as it was back in the day" addage..
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, some of us are striving to turn our bikes into perpetual motion machines ?
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The crucible of perfection integrates new knowledge with current design. HD's red headed step child is on its own now, we are on our own. Erik Buell Racing has a new clutch piston kit, someone has covered their stator cover with a heat dispersant coating, differing rewind strategies, differing harness strategies, extra oil in the system...
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got a belt for my bike.

/end thread
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jordan (Rogue),

>>> But let's put all this into perspective.

Within the span of just a few minutes surfing a few meager google hits and pasting the results here, that is exactly what I was attempting to do. Your conclusions lack merit. Your singular experiences both with the Japanese bikes and the 1125 are not representative of the population at large.

Were someone to read those problems reported for the Busas and VFRs they too might be deluded into thinking that they are not reliable machines. But in general they indeed are.

The same is true for the Buell 1125s.
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake, I sincerely hope you are correct. I really want to believe what you are saying, that the problems with our 1125R's are limited to what we are seeing in this board. Don't forget how much I believe in Buell and how much cool aid I have been drinking for years!

However, I will be honest and say it's tough to keep the faith when the most problems I have ever had on a bike have been from Buell. I will make it clear that the problems I've had with my XB12R were minor and I was able to fix all of them. The problems my 1125R had were a lot although I did NOT have to deal with most of them. I recently had to replace the fork seals for the 2nd time now (I don't wheelie either) and have come to the conclusion that the forks are just too firm for me. So now I have to rectify that. I don't understand why Buell fitted the early 1125R's with such overly firm springs to begin with. I forgive them and will find a solution soon.

I still really love my Buells both past and present. It's not blind love, but just passion for the brand and belief in the man responsible for it. Finally, the 1125R is really a good bike.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rogue_biker - Doerman had it right "if it's got two wheels and a powerful engine it's like a beautiful woman. It will give you trouble."
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Jdugger
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rogue,

The only time I've had to unexpectedly replace fork seals is when I've had a burr on one of the fork tubes.

Are you re-polishing the tubes when you replace the seals?

If not, they are going to start leaking again soon...
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a local shop do the seal replacement. I never asked the question. I will ask the question since I'm having them replace the fluid and springs this time.

Thanks for that tip.
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