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Hellraged
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well i think i did it!! lol im so happy lol but ineed gearoil before i try it out i put the bike on some center blocks to get it upright but i had to turn the clutch adjusting screw like 5 times counter clockwise to bottom out, seems alittle loose eh? but then i turned it 1/4 turn and put the hexnut thing with spring back on, checked the clutch cable free play to a 1/16 inch (put a nickle) fit perfect i think i did it lol im going to get some gear oil tomorrow and try it out and ill let yall know :P
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Hellraged
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

another question that i noticed tonight, how much when i turn the bike on (not start) the tail light dont come on? but when i hit the brakes the brake light comes on... anything i need to check? i just changed this light like last week when i noticed the brake light wouldnt come on .. wires all looked hooked up could it be the battery running low since i didnt start it or ride it since wedn?
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Hellraged
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Royal -Purple-1-qt-75W-90-synthetic-Max-Gear-oil/_/N-25t 1?counter=3&filterByKeyWord=gear+oil&fromString=se arch&itemIdentifier=854795_0_0_


that good transmission oil to use? or should i try a harley dealer and how much does there trasmission oil cost?
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01x1buell
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i run 20 50 syn in both it works for me.. it is made for wet clutches mobil one.
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Hellraged
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok so put the 20/50 mobile one regular oil or is there a trasmission oil?
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01x1buell
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no its the same like i said i run mobile 20 50 in both its synthetic specially formulated for air cooled v twins and for the wet clutch.. it runs great in my bike
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Hellraged
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.mobiloil.com/usa-english/motoroil/oils/ mobil_1_v-twin_20w-50.aspx

so put this stuff in the clutch inspection cover (you take it off and pour it in there?)
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a two filament bulb. Your running light filament has burned out.

Carefully remove the two screws from the cover (the plastic gets brittle if it's been in the sun much)push the bulb in a little and turn to the left. I think it's an 1158, but am probably wrong there, it's a very common bulb though. You can get a nice two pack of the long life bulbs at the auto parts store.

Tranny - pour a bit of oil in the clutch inspection cover, so that it just touches the bottom of the clutch basket. I use a skinny yellow funnel from the auto zone.
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Hellraged
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok ill check the bulb again, i bought the 2 set thing at auto zone and installed in parking lot, guess it shook loose or something because it was on all the time just not when i press the brake i will check it out. And put that Mobil oil vtwin 20w-50 in the tranny?
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, uses standard 20-50 for the tranny. Kinda nice, being able to use the same fluid for motor and tranny huh?

My bike has a loose fitting for the rear bulb. I have to be careful when I put one in or I can turn it too far. You can also put it in backwards, so make sure you've got the pins (shallow and deep)facing the proper contact points.
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Hellraged
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thank you littlebugles : D , i will check it tomorrow after work. Will also go pick up some mobil 1 vtwin and put it in the tranny tomorrow to see if i fixed the problem. i mean i had to turn the clutch adjusting screw like 5 turns counter to get it to bottom seems kinda loose uh? and the wire was way down. The clutch feels alot better now on the bike i hope it fixed it and i hope i didnt mess up anything else inside (while i tried to make it home like that)
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Hellraged
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well shit that was a nogo : ( what other problem could it be? it does sound better (the noise inside) but still wont go.. dont understand now : (
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Hellraged
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah same problem, i can shift into all gears good , when i start the bike in neutral and press down for first you can hear it click in and feel like its going into first like normal , but when i let go of the clutch and give it gas it wont move maybe just a inch or 2 then just makes noise... think its the primary chain? or something ... im boggled
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Charlies_s1
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like it's in the clutch basket?
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Hellraged
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sounds like its coming from the gear box ( where the gear shifter is hooked up too) not a loud noise but not a noise that was there before. Never heard any loud noise like something broke, just i stoped the bike that day and started it back up and then this happend not sure : ( sad days indeed going to take it to a shop on sat (hopefully) to get a estimate or something then park it in my parents garage until i have cash to fix it so atleast it will be out the elements.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you removed the primary cover? What did the tensioner look like?
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14d
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like you're missing first gear and bouncing into a false neutral. I've had this happen before and that's usually the case. Try holding the clutch in for a few seconds before the first initial shift out of neutral and make sure you shift nice and solid. I'd recommend some motorcycle specific boots as well. I was quite surprised with how much cleaner my shifting was just from the boots. They generally have a stiffer sole and a stiff upper on the toe-box (for up shifts). I've been using the Icon Superduty 3's for about a year now and I'm pretty happy with them. Not very comfortable to walk in but not a bad boot for a hundred bucks and they definitely offer more protection than a regular boot or sneaker.

If this is the only symptom you're having I wouldn't sweat it and I bet what I suggested will take care of it. You probably would have noticed if there was any shrapnel or loose pieces in there (i.e. a broken tensioner) when you changed the oil.
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14d
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I missed the fact that you can't get it to go at all, I thought it was still riding fine and this just happened once. Have you tried more than once to get it in gear while running? Did you notice any metal on the magnetic primary drain plug when you changed the oil?
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Hellraged
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

didnt notice any metal on the drain plug. It was riding fine then i stoped at the store got back on my bike went to go out in traffic and wouldnt go just revs and makes a noise of some kind (not a kind of noise of anything broken. ) then it fixed itself for a moment well long enough to get home , then i went back out and went out again and i had to push it back up my driveway because i didnt want to break anything reving it and stuff. I will try again today and see whats up , tensioner looked fine when i removed the primary cover everything looks in place, i didnt remove the whole houseing unit dont want to remove the whole thing to only mess things up lol. na 14d i tried yesturday to get it to go and still nothing, ill try again today but i dunno : ( sucks indeed lol kinda weird but ohwell shit happens , my luck sucks.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"i didnt remove the whole houseing unit"

I don't understand what you are referring to there. Can you elaborate?
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Hellraged
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i removed the primary cover but didnt take out the 15 or how many allen screws that house the gears and primary chain and stuff. just the primary cover where the clutch adjuster is and hex nut.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah. That's the inspection cover. Taking off the primary cover involves taking all those allen head bolts out. It's the only way you can get a good look at the primary chain adjuster. It might also be readily apparent what your problem is if you take it off. The shifter pawl is held on with a clip that has been known to come off occasionally. Removing the cover isn't a big deal. Back off the adjuster (underneath) and get yourself a new metal gasket if you have the old paper kind and go to it. You're not going to break anything and nothing is going to fall out when you take the cover off. Note that if something does fall out, you've found your problem. : )
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you take the primary cover off, be sure you've got a pan under the bike to catch the oil (if you've re-filled the primary/transmission).
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good advise Tom. The gasket tends to trap some oil in the cover, so even if you're "completely drained" it'll still drop some when you pop the cover.
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Hellraged
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i just called this triumph dealer near my parents house to see if i can bring it in sat. for a estimate and what could be wrong with it. Ill keep yall posted , im just going to let a professional look at this bike so i can get it going right ect.. so this sat. i will take it to a shop if its too much to pay right now ill just drop it off at my parents garage that why its atleast in a garage and out of the elements :P ill keep yall posted.
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Hellraged
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well i was outside today looking at my bike thinking how beautiful it is lol and i noticed the belt is below the belt guard, so i go touch the belt and its loose as a goose , and i look under the bike and i see thebelt up against some metal thing. What would cause the belt to be loose like this all of a sudden? easy fix? im taking it to a shop sat. but if i can fix this before then easily would be great any input?
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Belts on tubers should be loose. Maybe it has been like that and you just didn't notice it before?
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Hellraged
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh no, it was tight alittle but this is ALOT looser than it was.
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Hellraged
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guell actually said ( when i rode to his house ) that he would have the belt loosened. i did notice the days before the problem i would hear the belt squeal alittle or something when backing the bike up to turn it on in my drive way .
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Guell
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nick, take some pics and give me a call tomorrow
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