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Tsnake
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just changed my engine oil.
used my new DRAPER torque wrench.

when I got the plugs off,they were tight! really tight! I even damaged the plug.

but later when I torqued them back to specifique NM. 25 and 15, I said to myself: JUST LIKE THAAAT?
I don't even they are tightened!

it was a new wrench, can I trust it ?
or better I should tight them like a gym guy?

;-(

(Message edited by tsnake on May 06, 2011)
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just use my best judgment and snug them on there tight, but not too tight. Seems to work.
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Eddie
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remember we don't have an Iron Block. So try not to Hulk out in it : )
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got a nice dual direction electronic torque wrench that I use for the axles (so I don't crush the bearings). Everything else I just tighten it till its snug, but I don't have the arm strength to strip a bolt.
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Hairy_cannonball
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know if you can trust yours, I trust mine, a mixture of K-D ratcheting type and Snap-on dial type, but I have them calibrated.
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Sprintst
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just don't miss the click
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Tsnake
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thx, but the difference is too clear.

i did a Hulk thing to get them off,
and just three fingers to tight.

mine is a break click type, and costs 80dollars maybe, a digital would be much more expensive...

looks like im gonna use it again soon for axle to change my front pad...hmmmmmm...
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Avalaugh
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remember the amount of heat cycles things have been through before you need to undo them.

This is why the torque guides are there, I torque to the recommended settings, then just a tiny nip more.

Never had a problem.
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Tsnake
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thx, guys

seems fine then.
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Xodot
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have an expensive reputation of over doing it... even with fasteners.

I bought a cheap torque wrench, compared it to the Snap on one at work and the cheapie was close enough at low medium and high values. I stick to the middle torque value and it has been OK.

Just remember that some jobs require NEW fasteners. (That lesson was expensive for me.) The bolts are made to stretch once. They are prone to snap the second time used.

I am still learning - and paying.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have yet to see a confirmed implementation of "stretch bolts" on the 1125.
Prove me wrong. Please...

Z
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rear sprocket bolts are stretch.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Front rotor bolts too.
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Sprintst
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"tighten it till it loosens and back it off a quarter"

I used to have to remove a lot of broken bolts at the shop from guys doing that
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1_mike
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny...

"ALL" fasteners stretch as they are tightened. Even just a few foot pounds, or more correctly noted...pounds feet..!
Unless you use a stretch gauge..you just don't know how far they stretch.

I've had the rear sprocket off of my XB12R three times and reattached with the "same" original fasteners...no breakage, no loosening...no problems, go figure.

Mike
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