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Rangerpj1
Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an '09 Uly XT and last fall the windshield became loose on one side. It was then that I discovered there was a recall on the fasteners. They were ordered....but...this spring when I checked at the dealership the fasteners had not come in. The service guy reordered the part and checked the shield. He said it would be ok...NOT!!! I lost the windshield and almost my head between KC and Columbia on 50 HWY. On my way home I stopped by the dealership to let them know we had another problem. Lets see how long it take to get the Windshield in...

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Union_man
Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad you are OK!
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Fltwistygirl
Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yikes! Thanks for the heads up and glad your head is ok.

Please keep us updated on the status of getting the windshield fixed.

Is anyone aware of any other non-dealer fixes for this problem? This is my daily 70 mph commuter bike and I kinda like my head!

P.S. @ ranger: Nice bike! Love the color! B.
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put 35,000 miles on my '06X, and have 30,000 miles on my '08 XT without any windshield problems. I'm not going to worry about it.
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Towpro
Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the recall on the bolts? I have the Madstat windshield system on my 07 (which has the aluminum fly screen), I think 2 of my 6 bolt holes are stripped out. The only fix would be to drill the holes bigger and retap, or drill them out and put nut-inserts in the holes.
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Rwven
Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What kills the well nuts is over torquing them. I found that if you tightened them just enough to get them through the holes in the flyscreen, then tightened them 8 turns more, they would hold securely but not tear the well nut out of the rubber base.

The ultimate cure is to get a Palmer Bracket (my choice) or a Madstad. No worries about coming off plus a much more useful wind control system.

IMO the recall "cure" sucks, you cannot clean between the windshield and the flyscreen without removing the flyscreen and disassembling the unit. No Thanks!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See...people keep speaking of this "clean" procedure around Uly's...what is this?

I did drill and tap all six of my flyscreen mount screws with helicoils. I run a CeeBailey windshield in the winter, and a stock shorty in the summer, so those six are the ones that I keep changing...and the helicoils are much more durable than the aluminum threads.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the ZG wind shield and as per the problem of the lower holding pins a friend and me drilled a hole trough them and used a flat hed screw and behind the shield a washer and a nut the rubber gromets i filled with a piece of pipe to keep then in shape, only did the 2 lower ones, have been riding like this for over 20k with no issue.
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Rwven
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's the two lower well nuts for the windshield that broke loose on Rangerpj1, not the flyscreen to front module screws.

Joe,

Dirt is OK but splattered bug guts have got to go. But then again I'm riding one of those cityfied XTs.

I use anti-seize on mine, so far so good.
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Mnrider
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




Your windshield lower mounts should be these bolts.
Did someone mention bugs.
I use that car wash and wax stuff and push a wash rag under there with a popsicle stick.
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Rangerpj1
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the input. I'll keep you posted on what the dealer does. I just wish I could have found the windshield so I could re-attach it. Tell me more about this Palmer Bracket Rwven.
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Rwven
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paul<

http://palmerproducts.auto.officelive.com/buellxb1 2x.aspx
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Rangerpj1
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Rwven. Now all I need is the Windshield back.

Paul
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Oldwesterncowboy
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 08V538000
Summary:
BUELL IS RECALLING 624 MY 2008-2009 XB12XT AND MY 2009 XB12XP MOTORCYCLES. THE WINDSHIELDS MAY BECOME DISLODGED AND ALLOW THE WINDSHIELD TO EITHER STRIKE OR DISTRACT THE RIDER WHILE THE VEHICLE IS BEING RIDDEN AT A HIGH SPEED.
Consequence:
THIS COULD RESULT IN A CRASH, WHICH COULD CAUSE INJURY OR DEATH TO THE RIDER.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REMOVE THE WINDSHIELD'S TWO RUBBER MOUNTED NUTS AND INSTALL TWO NEW FASTENER ASSEMBLIES. THE RECALL BEGAN ON OCTOBER 20, 2008. OWNERS MAY CONTACT BUELL AT 1-414-342-4080.
Notes:
BUELL RECALL NO. 0837. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
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Verdad
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As far as I know personally, this was the only recall affecting our bikes. I had no idea about it until I took mine to the dealer for my 1k mile service. The Tech Manager let me know about the issue, after they had completed it. Now mine looks just like Mnriders. BTW, love the bugs - gives your bike the "lived on" look...

With the winds as they are in SoCal/Mojave (mostly in excess of 45 mph...), I would imagine I'd have lost mine a while ago had my dealer not done the modification.

No matter; I'm moving to the Palmer Brackets in a month or two anyway...

Russ
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Oldwesterncowboy
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just got my palmer brackets friday.
WOW, its like I got a new bike.
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Rangerpj1
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks everyone for the input. Once the dealership gets in the parts in I'm gonna get the Palmer Brackets.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good call, no regrets on the palmer brackets.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hm. Bug guts go when I ride in the rain : )

Although, I have been known to put on my helmet, drop the visor, spritz it with a quick detailer and wipe the bugs off that.

Does that count?
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Rangerpj1
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess the counts Ratbuell
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Rangerpj1
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good News!...I called the dealer and the part are in. Then its time to order me some palmer brackets!!!
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Boogeyman
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad you got your parts in finally! You've been waiting long enough!
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Sidepipe79
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just drilled holes in the center of the plastic plugs. Then I used the leftover washer and a 1/4" stainless screw to hold the lower end of the windshield down. Ill take a pic this weekend.
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Surfsofa
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is this ever an issue with the X screen? I replaced my XT screen with an X one as that's been the best screen setup I've found for the bike so far. But I'm still reluctant to have a screen held on with nothing more than rubber grommets. I'm sure the forces must be a lot less on the X screen, but has anyone ever had one of those detach at speed?
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I'm sure the forces must be a lot less on the X screen, but has anyone ever had one of those detach at speed?




Yep, at 130mph. : )
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Rangerpj1
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK. Dealer installed the replacement screen last weekend. It was rainy, but at 70 mph for 1 mile...it stayed on!!! lol... I ordered my Palmer Brackets on Monday.

Thanks for all the input fellow Buellers!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rangerpj1 - did you get the brace also?
It's option B, bracket and brace...
Frank(PO) put the bracket kit on, but no braces and the screen vibrated wildly around idle speed.

I made a pair of braces yesterday and the screen is solid now, no buzzing.
There's a pic in the other windscreen thread.

Zack
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