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Pauley2000
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just how long is the 'real' reserve range?

I got like 20km and ground out like a cigarette.
New bike et.al.
'09 XB12XT
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Rwven
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It varies, mine comes on with between 0.8 US gallons and 1 US gallon left in the tank. I've never gone more than 20 miles on "reserve", but I've never run it out of fuel either. If you only made 20km you either have a calibration problem or you were WOT in lower gears the whole time.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea, my 07 is good for at least 20 miles (that's the farthest I've gone on reserve) and I think it'd go a good bit farther.
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Snojet
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I read in my owners manual that I have .83 of a gallon left in the tank when the fuel light come on. (2006 XB12X)

If you research this site you will find many posts that people have had problems with the reserve fuel light. Sounds like you might have the same problem(s) as others.

The way I ride I get on average 45 MPG. So I estimate that I would get about 37 MPG out of .83 of fuel. With all this said, when I see the fuel light on I believe I got about 30 to 35 miles of riding left before it dies. (usable fuel) I have ridden 25 miles with the fuel light on. Normally when that light come on, I'm looking for a gas station. I'm sort of a sissy in this area.

Sorry for not converting to km's. I figured you would be quicker at the conversion than I.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only time I ran out, I was 50KM with the light on, and stuck in traffic.
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Arcticktm
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use 20 miles as my "safe to run" zone with the light on, but have gone close to 30mi when I had to.
Of course, mine is an '06, and I am usually getting just under 50MPG, so that is the biggest factor.
Sounds like later bikes in '08+ timeframe have some very different calibration and MPG results.
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Snakebreak
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have never run out of gas, but I have gone 35 miles with the light on. I get between 40-45 miles per gallon. That tank I got around 45.
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Jlnance
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bike is required by law to run 30 miles on reserve (and a car 60 miles.) That info courtesy of 1313.

Spike did a test with his 07 Uly and made it 32 miles.

I have gone 27 miles because 264 is the most barren road I have ever seen in NC. I was very glad to find an working gas pump.
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Tginnh
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran mine about 35mi. once with the light on.
I was in podunk, NH, it was raining buckets, I was coming off a 10mi, 4k-footer hike in the White Mts.
I was drenched and cold thinking "come on, baby, just a couple more miles..." I didn't run out.

I find if you talk nicely to your machines, they respond in the affirmative...
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Petereid
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've made it 25km on my 08 XT with the fuel light on. Don't this I would push it past that

Just how long is the 'real' reserve range?

In your case I would say 20km ; )

(Message edited by petereid on April 23, 2009)
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Thetable
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last time around, it was 30.7 miles on reserve until it died the first time, then another .6 sitting on the right side of the bike leaning the bike to the left.
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Michael1
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Varies for me. I've seen 32 miles before empty, along with 26, 38 AND 33.

Yeah, I run out of gas lot. It's always on the highway too. Trying to push it that last little bit. I find my GPS as the culprit. It says gas is ONLY 25 miles away...sure...
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Jphish
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know. 'Tested' it last year - I went 34.7 mi with the lite on, before I had to deploy 1 of my MSR bottles. In your case...I guess about 20km(12mi) - which seems a bit short. Strap a 1 gal can on (with gas contained herein) and go test it again. Thats not something you want to have to wonder about too much.
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Bculy
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last week I tried to break the 30 mile barrier and ran out at 24.7 miles. I called my neighbor to bring me the full 5 gallon gas can out of the barn. Thanks Michelle!
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Xbimmer
Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With my '06 when the light lights I slow down and plan on 20 miles reserve.

Running around in town once I did run out at about 30 miles. I had expected 40 miles before worrying and got surprised.

20 miles is my safety margin now, too many variables and I don't like pushing. Speed makes a BIG difference with my bike, steady 70-75 its sips fuel, above 80 it drinks it.
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Idaho_buelly
Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

09X,ran out @ 32miles,but @ that time I was getting 35mpg,after an exhaust change and 1300 miles later I'm getting 40-45mpg..
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Brag918
Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 05:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got 28 miles before I ran out, only had to push it about 2 blocks. Light came on as I was leaving for work, was hoping to make it back home as gas is cheaper there!
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Echo15
Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've gone over 20 mi.

My son's speed triple gives you just enough time to say,"Oh, shit," before it stutters to a halt.
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Pauley2000
Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys.
New bike, breaking it in, not ramming it much past 5000rpm and mostly in the 2500-4000 range (600miles on it).
I did the math (.86 gal = 30 miles ish range).
The bike bonked right before a juicy bit of ocean side twisty on my morning commute.

As I awaited my reserve supply (pit crew) I gazed at the scenery, watched two cars pass in 10 minutes and felt blessed.

Blessed because I knew I had the twisties ahead, and fuel on the way. Not in the middle of BF No Where. (cell phones rock!)

I think the jerry run dry is in order.
Other bike is a KLR so range has never been an issue. (yet)
-p
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anybody know if running dry causes damage to the fuel pump, maybe by overheating it? Is the fuel pump supposed to last the life of the bike?
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Dnveloman
Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where I live (NH,VT), gas is prevalent. I just don't let her get over 150 before I fill up... then never have to worry. If I do that in a sitting, I'm ready for a stretch, jerky, and V-Water anyway.
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Snojet
Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Electraglider,
That's an excellent question. I don't know the exact answer but I can offer the following. If a pump of any kind is cavitating for any length of time it will wear. Due to the overheating, lack of cooling for the fluid that is suppose to run in it. But I have seen various pumps run for a very long time (normal expected life) after such treatment and I also seen other pumps die shortly there-afterwards.

As for the life of the pump on the bike. I believe that is subject to the manufacture/model that makes it. And maybe if it was put together on a Monday or Friday. LOL

Claims of pump life are to be taken with a grain of salt. Only time will tell for this pumps life expectancy.

It seems that other riders have upwards of 30k-55k ++ on there bikes. Have they had to change the pump during those miles/hours? Anyone...
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Pauley2000
Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Running out of gas is usually pretty abrupt. Can't see how a few seconds of 'dry run' will burn out the pump.
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