| Author | Message | ||
     Essthreetee |
Would a battery that is low/bad make a bike surge?? make a bike hesitate?? I have been having those problems, and went out to go for a ride this morning click, click, click...took the battery down to have it tested. Tested ok, just low. I have it hooked up to a trickle charger now. Will a charged battery make these things go away??? | ||
| Buellistic |
Not replacing your BATTERY every two years leads to all kinds of MYSTERIOUS and many PHANTOM PROBLEMS !!! When you get a new battery, put it on a trickle charger for 24 hours before putting into service !!! REMEMBER THIS: It is cheaper to replace the batery every two years than pay the labor and parts( regulator and/or stator) plus trouble shooting the MYSTERIOUS/ PHANTOM PROBLEMS !!! Think of the peace of mind you can have ... When you are not riding your BUELL, keep the BATTERY on a TRICKLE CHARGER !!! In BUELLing LaFayette (Message edited by buellistic on July 04, 2006) (Message edited by buellistic on July 04, 2006) | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
These glass mat batteries seem to go suddenly. My first battery died on the highway and the bike just shut down like I flipped a switch. It opened up inside so that it would put out 12.5V until any load was put across it and then it would die instantly. My second battery lasted more than 4 years after that and it died in a simmilar way only after I drove to work, it wouldn't start at the end of the day. Same symptom each time. After you feel like the battery is charged, measure the voltage across the battery and then turn on the ignition. If it is like mine was, it will keel over and die. P.S. I don't think you need a trickle charger unless you leave it unused for long periods of time. | ||
| Essthreetee |
Well my battery is only a year old. I ride it 5 times a week to work, not very far but still, although being a teacher on summer break, it hasn't gotten the attention it deserves (house maintenance and improvements have taken over my life). the hesitation and surging started after I changed the handlebars (I assumed I screwed something up...which I still may have) about a week and a half ago, the bike has not been ridden since then (ordered some parts and am awaitning their arrival). Wanted to go for a ride today, and all of a sudden the thing doesn't want to start. I took the battery in to Cycle Gear, they tested it and said it tested out fine, just weak. they recommended a trickle charger tonight, slap it back in and try it out tomorrow. If it works, great I have a new trickle charger and a ridable bike. If not, bring the charger back and get the battery. I REALLY gotta get this thing figured out QUICK. I am supposed to be going on a ride this weekend (leaving Thursday) and I don't want it to die on the road... | ||
| Essthreetee |
Just an update. Charged the battery overnight, cleaned all connectors, installed and went for a ride. All seems good. Bike rode strong, no hesitation, no surging. Although it was not triple digits out, so I wonder if that is part of it??? I guess I will have to wait and see tomorrow. | ||
| Xldevil |
Hey. My battery is more than 5 years old (VARTA).Before I put the VARTA in my Cyclone,I used it in a Sporty.Still good.Never had any battery probs,so far. Buell/HD batteries (Sporty,Cyclone),both died after 2 years. Ralph | ||
| Freeflyer |
"REMEMBER THIS: It is cheaper to replace the batery every two years than pay the labor and parts( regulator and/or stator)" It sounds like your saying buying a new battery every 2 years will prevent regulator/stator failure? can a bad battery really ruin a stator? I figure the stator runs all the time weather the battery needs to be charged or not. It seems wasteful to me to throw away a battery every two years they should last longer than that if taken care of. | ||
| Ocbueller |
S3T, The battery may well have given you some symptoms you described. Heat can also play a factor in battery strength and the fuel injected bikes will go into a high heat mode via the ecm and will surge at idle. I believe and someone correct me if I'm wrong it retards the timing in an effort to cool the motor. My X1 will do this in summer traffic and ceases as soon as I can get moving again. SteveH | ||
| Buellistic |
Freeflyer: HEAT is what you are missing ... | ||
| Buellistic |
Ocbueller: The FAN KIT PN Z0008.M will help or stop this HEAT problem ... (Message edited by buellistic on July 05, 2006) | ||
| Ocbueller |
Lafayette, Thanks, I usually just ride the S1 when I think it's too hot for the X1.  SteveH | ||
| Denfromphilly |
X1's have a heat problem fer sure. I have three fans on mine and the factory kit one comes on too late, the motor is already hot and cranky. I have two more 80mm 12v computer fans with blue LED's that came with a stick on thermocouple. They vary speed and cooling with motor temp and work better. The LED's pimp it up a bit too. I just used tie wraps to connect them to the frame near the front and rear cylinder. See "www.coolerguys.com" and look in the garage sale part. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
You're so crazy. It wants to be hot. You should allow it to be hot. | ||
| Denfromphilly |
With all respect how hot should I let it get? Should I let it sputter and ping, stumble off the stoplights? I have 1250 10.5:1 pistons and big cams, it needs more cooling in 90 degree (and above) stop and go traffic. When moving and the air is blowing the fans add nothing, the stream of air interrupts the fans effect and cools the thermocouples controlling them. The fans are variable speed and have thermocouples that I positioned on the framework above the motor so they don't turn on until the framework and/or air temp above the motor hits 55C (133F) and the fans hit peak speed at 80C (176F). That's air above the motor temp, not motor temp. I played with the correct spot so they came on when the motor was getting cranky. It seems to work pretty well, plugs are tan and the crankiness and ping are gone even on a hot day, and I can run 93 octane pump gas. The factory kit does not come on until the bike is already in distress due to what I would call overheating, stumbling and pinging etc. In fact the factory fan has only come on twice while riding and the motor was seriously hot! The factory fan comes on a few minutes after I park even in cool weather but not while idling in traffic for 10 minutes at 95F although the motor is pinging and cranky. My brother has an X1 with similar mods except cams and his gets cranky too. He has a Jagg oil cooler with fans and a thermocouple but again it doesn't turn on until it's stumbling and pinging. The newer XB's have a fan that runs virtually all the time on hot summer days, do they know something we don't? So what's a boy to do? I really hate to burn a hole in a rear piston too... | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Sorry. I didn't think you had a modified engine. Mine gets good and hot in heavy traffic but it never seemed to hurt it any | ||
| Denfromphilly |
Yeah, there are some issues like heat and lifting the front tire with throttle roll on in the corners but all in all it's serious fun! My brothers bike is actually a little more ridable and civilized with stock cams, Nallin stage two, total seal and 10.5:1, race kit. By the time his hits 4,000 rpm it pulls as hard as mine but it's smoother and more civilized down low. Any way you look at it they are both really unique and fun bikes to ride and they make me drive like a total hooligan! |
