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     Daves |
That's why you should always have more than one gun! One of my favorite lines in a movie is in Unforgiven when the one armed sheriff is loading up several pistols and one of the deputies says something about there only being 1 person they are all trying to kill. The sheriff say's, If I get killed it ain't going to be from not being able to shoot back. Or something like that. | ||
| Mikej |
rt, If you use handloads then also keep good records. "That is patently untrue, the handloads are reduced target loads that I use primarily for target practice and in fact have less energy than most factory loaded ammunition, as is proven by the fact that your client is sitting right there trying to justify his criminal acts by hiring a dirtbag like you who would try to twist facts into fantasy to further enable your client's future criminal lifestyle". A better defensable story line goes: "I am home and already have the police on the line, and the dispatcher tells me a couple of squad cars are only a few moments away, so run away now and leave us alone" ' You're bluffing, I clipped your telephone line, and now I'm going to kill you with my knife' "I have a cell phone with a sat linkup, and I am armed to defend myself" 'liar' crash goes the locked bedroom door as the thief/murderer breaks in "bang" goes Miss Pinky, the little .410 shotgun. 'thud' goes the intruder as his bullet proof vest didn't protect his throat where his adams apple was the approximate size of a house wren that was once used long ago for target practice with the little .410. "dispatch? you can tell the officers to slow down a little now, might want to send the paramedics though, not sure of the intruders condition but I'm not about to check on him since his knife is still in his hand and he may be bluffing. I'll just sit here waitin' on ya'all to arrive" | ||
| M1combat |
The second amendment was put in place so that the people wouldn't be defenseless in the face of a tyranical government. It is this fact that makes me believe that owning whatever firearm you want "within reason" is bollocks. We should be able to buy anything our military can come up with as long as we can pay the price. Quite frankly though... I've asked a LOT of people in the military if they would ever fire on an American citizen who is in America and every one of them has said no. They are our Brothers/Sisters/Sons/Daughters/Fathers and Mothers. I'm pretty sure we're OK until they bring in the U.N. troops. My thanks to the citizens of America for not electing John Kerry. (Still not trying to make this a political thread...) | ||
| Reepicheep |
Road Thing... about two decades back, my Father in Law had to appear in court at a trial. He had sold some extra handloads he had put together and had laying around to somebody he worked with, and that person had ended up using them... . I don't know the details, don't really want to ask, but it was an unpleasant experience for all involved. It would again come down to lawyers, but why add the extra grief of one more thing to complicate things with. My self defense loads (which I don't ever expect to use) are straight from a factory box. And like you, I have never had a misfire with factory ammo. I have had maybe 1 in 1000 misfire with handloads for one reason or another. | ||
| Zip |
You guys get excited so easily. over a few stray lyrics from some inconsequential guy. Just the the kind of people that that make concerned about wielding a gun and using it wisely. "Zippy = Zip the loud mouth who started this thread." loud mouth ??? 60 threads to 4 threads ??? I love the Bill of Rights, all of it. I just think we need to be careful about our choices and not just prop up our ego. | ||
| Jerseyguy |
I believe that is my duty to protect my family, community and way of life in every way that I can, just like my forefathers did for me. I thank God that I was lucky enough to be born in America where my primary weapon for defense is something called "voting". I use this weapon every time I can. There exists the very, very remote possibility that I may have to use my backup weapons for defense. The threat might be from other nations, criminals, terrorists, a government or police gone awry, or frigging space aliens for that matter. In any case I am ready to defend to the best of my ability. All of my weapons are either in a gun safe or have locked trigger guards. I know how how to handle and use all of them. God willing I will never have to point them at a fellow human being (except my paintball gun). When the USSR imploded, my need for backup weapons waned, but the events of 9/11 reminded me of my duty. So I stand ready to defend my country, even as an old man. I hope you all stand with me.  | ||
| M1combat |
Back to back Jersey  . | ||
| Tramp |
shoulder-to-shoulder | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
jersey sounds good to me | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
You my dear American's are held in such high regard in France that to state otherwise does the French an injustice they neither warrant nor deserve. Being held in high regard does not mean that we are understood, and I will agree with you at the same time that America doesn't "get" the rest of the world. Roc you are correct. | ||
| Djkaplan |
I tried to pack my gun once, but someone asked me, "Hey, is that a rifle in your pants?". | ||
| Darthane |
My 'home defense weapon':  I'd also like to point out that while I was in Hiroshima, unable to speak the language and undoubtedly a city with good reason to dislike Americans, I felt perfectly safe wandering around unlit paths, roads, and alleyways, sober or not, at all hours. I'd never dream of doing this in my own suburban neighborhood back here in the States. I don't own a gun and probably never will, but I will resist any attempt to take that choice away from me. | ||
| Bomber |
there's an argument (not mine) that one of the great reasons to have a draft is to ensure that the troops view themselves as citezens first, soldiers/sailors/airmen/marines/coasties second I can't imagine the eighty-Deuece rolling up pensylvania avenue ready to take over (although there have been days when it seemed like a good idea!) (smile) I have several good friends who viewed loosing the right to own fully auto weaps with huge dismay -- it's an emotional as well as a rational discussion, I'm thinkin, and, while a firearm owner, and would fight mightily to protect that right, I do think some folks can wander awfully far down that path -- not sure I want that git in the SUV next to me on the interstate to have an RPG | ||
| Scooterroid |
I've asked a LOT of people in the military if they would ever fire on an American citizen who is in America and every one of them has said no. Remember Kent State University - "4 dead in Ohio" Steve-O | ||
| Borrowedbike |
The second amendment was put in place so that the people wouldn't be defenseless in the face of a tyranical government. It is this fact that makes me believe that owning whatever firearm you want "within reason" is bollocks. We should be able to buy anything our military can come up with as long as we can pay the price. I Agree M1! The second amendment doesn't say "...right to bear a gun" it says "...right to bear Arms" That doesn't mean I can justify a 50 Cal in my house, but perhaps my local Militia (You know, Militia, like the ones who actually secured our freedom from the British before there was federally funded military) wants one. They have every right to it, just as the farmers did in the 1760's. The government may not want it (Hmmmm, Like the Torrys didn't want the farmers to have them) but is is the intent of the second amendment. | ||
| Mutt2jeff |
It is this fact that makes me believe that owning whatever firearm you want "within reason" is bollocks. not sure I want that git in the SUV next to me on the interstate to have an RPG Within reason is a hard term to define. We simply cannot have people or militias gain the ability to purchase major military hardware like an M1A1 just because they have the money for it. If you havent noticed, a number of militias are feakin nuts, and would use a M1A1 to attack Washington DC the very day they got one. Granted, 99.999999% of the time, no one is going to buy it or if they do, use it in a harmful manner. But what if that .000001% goes apeshit and somehow gets ahold of some ammo for it? They could kill thousands before the police could stop them. I shudder to think what some wackjobs would do if they could get their hands on an AT4. Maybe park at the end of a runway and shoot a 747 down as it took off? Maybe Air Force 1? Once again, i am talking about the .000001% of the population that might do this, but some weapons are simply too powerful for the masses to be able to buy. (Keep in mind, this is a big theoretical jump, but is still possible) (Message edited by mutt2jeff on November 12, 2004) | ||
| Road_thing |
"bang" goes Miss Pinky, the little .410 shotgun. mikej, have we hunted quail together? http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/17216.jpg Actually, my home defense set-up is pretty close to what's on the link posted by Mutt2jeff above: 12 gauge 870, first 2 rounds are 27-yard trap loads, 1 1/8 oz of 7 1/2 shot, followed by #0 buck. Mrs_Thing's emergency instructions in case I actually start shooting at something are: 1) Call 911 2) Call sheetrock repair guy 3) Call carpet cleaners rt | ||
| Ingemar |
Mrs_Thing's emergency instructions in case I actually start shooting at something are: 1) Call 911 2) Call sheetrock repair guy 3) Call carpet cleaners Did you practice this to prepare in case of emergencies?  | ||
| Shred |
I have called in on someone for road rage! I almost went to jail! Walton co. police suck! Now I will resort to taking care of it myself! A compact Glock #30 10 round clip of 45acp!! Kimber also has a mid size gun with a 14 round clip of 45acp! Have to carry on left side so I can keep my right hand on the throttle. | ||
| Newfie_buell |
I really can't believe the guns around this site!!! | ||
| Josh_ |
I have a 30-06 M1, a Sears .22 bolt-action and a late 1800s Winchester .22 with an octagon barrel. This world has definitely been through a lot of change. Who would have thought that the best rapper would be white, the best golfer would be black, the tallest guy in the NBA would be Chinese, Germany doesn't want to go to war and the most powerful men in the US are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colon". | ||
| Rocketman |
Guns or goons? Rocket | ||
| P0p0k0pf |
This is a sincere question to Newfie-- You can't believe there are people in this world that have enough sense to realize they could be victimized and a police officer won't be there? The only goons around here are the ones who think owning a gun is a hit to someone's morals or character. If the first thing you think of when picturing a gun is violence or malice, then I'd rather you don't have one... There is only one thing I dread more than having to use my pistol against a fellow human being. It's not having the gun if I ever need it for that purpose. | ||
| Newfie_buell |
The day I have to carry any kind of a gun or anything else to protect myself is the day I have to reconsider where I live!!! | ||
| Mutt2jeff |
Ok, time to post my guns This is my newest baby, i ordered it 5 days ago, should be here on monday. Springfield Armory XD Ported- .40 S&W http://img122.exs.cx/img122/1654/PortedLarge.jpg My shotgun, a Remington Wingmaster Model 870 with 20" barrel- 12 ga. http://img124.exs.cx/img124/2491/Rem_870wing.jpg A 1920's or 30's Ithaca 20 ga. shotgun. This was my Great grandfathers shotgun he carried in his partol car. I cant find a picture of this. The Smith and Wesson .357 Magnum, given to me for my 18th birthday by my father. http://img103.exs.cx/img103/6383/Smith686-01.jpg And a couple .22's. 2 Winchesters and a Savage I think. All pictures were stolen from the internet and may not be entirly accurate. I dont have a digital camera (Message edited by mutt2jeff on November 12, 2004) | ||
| Budo |
'If any American would have cared to visit France this 60th year commemorating the end of WW II, you'd see more Stars and Stripes flying than you'd care to shake a stick at.' Rocket, that is pretty cool! Always good to hear from you. What is the status of your Buell? | ||
| Buells Rule! (Dyna in disguise) |
It is this fact that makes me believe that owning whatever firearm you want "within reason" is bollocks. We should be able to buy anything our military can come up with as long as we can pay the price. M1, its funny you posted that. I was watching the news with the wife & they were showing movies of Iraq with the insurgents in Fallujah running around carrying RPG's & some badd@ss guns. I told the wife..these dirtbag scumballs living in a dustbowl hell hole of a country who dont have 2 nickels to rub together have cooler weapons than I do.............that sux. I really can't believe the guns around this site!!! Newfie you might be suprised at who has what. I dont have any military type weapons, but do have a 7 shot S&W .357 , Ruger 9mm, Ruger Blackhawk .45 single action revolver, crappy little .22 semi auto, 12 gauge winchester pump shotgun & a .22 winchester rifle. | ||
| Captainkirk |
Boys, you really shouldn't be uncovering your heat on a public domain website. Just MHO! | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
why not the govt knows about most of them well at leats mine anyway so who cares on a website. | ||
| Rek |
The day I have to carry any kind of a gun or anything else to protect myself is the day I have to reconsider where I live!!! Here-Here Newfie. I totally agree. I can't imagine WHY anyone would live somewhere they feel the need to protect themselves from potential agressors. Rob |
