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Archive through August 10, 2004Madduck30 08-10-04  11:16 pm
         

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Easyflier
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Madduck,

Good to see there is another Buell rider in the QCA. Maybe we can get together with Sardawg and do some riding.

Coolice was considering coming down for a bike night at Ducky's. Would be kinda neat to have a half dozen or so Buells show up. : )
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Coolice
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info. I thought being used by the race teams it would be "hot" in performance. It is as a flat tracker but as a street application it appears Buells out of the box are the best.
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Coolice
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ya Easy I marked my calendar every Thurs right?
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Madduck
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EasyFlier,

Used to be in QCA, now in Minnesota. Will be there tomorrow as race team is heading back to Bonneville Thursday.

Coolice, like most race bikes XR750's are designed to compete in a specific class of racing. The XR motor has been honed to a level of dominance essentially because no one else is willing to build for that set of rules. The AMA has pretty much determined that a currently configured XR will always be at a competitive advantage. If it ever becomes not competitive, you can count on the AMA to adjust the rules to make it so. HD has been the lifblood of that series with its coporate support and the fact that about 90% of its faithful fans ride Harleys. Get rich and buy any damn thing you want like Jay Leno. A street XR is wildly more practical than a jet bike.
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Easyflier
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, every Thursday from around 6-9pm.
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Easyflier
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Madduck, Too bad, saw the Rock Island reference and figured you were still around.
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Kevyn
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't remember who they are, but there is a company that is offering streetable XR750 bikes. Essentially the dirt track bike re-tuned for street performance plus lights and horn for licensing. Pricey.

I have the link on another computer, but a French company is actually exporting to the U.S. a nice version of Evolution powered XR1000's and XLCR's which would be nice to have hanging around the garage for a quick jaunt around the block. Pricey.

If someone were so inclined, it may be easier to get a dirt track frame and stuff a NRHS built motor in it for fun. The element of reliability would be much higher than the XR750 stuff. If I were so inclined, that's the route I'd pursue.

A few year back there was the SuperTracker class in the AMA dirt circle series. Jim Wagner and a bunch of other gear heads were stuffing Buell inspired motors in dirt track frames and having one heck of a good time trying to keep the rear wheel spin under control! Cornering clearance were an issue if I recall; the Buell/Sportster motors were a bit wider than the XR cases and the riders couldn't get the bikes leaned over far enough in the corners? I think I remember that the SuperTracker lap times were a bit quicker than the XR's...but, the XR's just out handled them in the corners. Plus, the XR racers already had all the suspension set ups for the tracks and the privateers were at a steep disadvantage trying to sort out suspension setups that the XR guys know and have been using for years.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 04:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is no race I have ever witnessed that rivels "The Mile" (specificlly Springfield or Sacramento) in terms of inciting motopassion and excitement.

Stand on the inside of the rail at turn one as they riders lay their heads on the rail while sliding.

Be sure to be someone you have good view of the finish line. Few finishes see 1st and 2nd seperated by more than about .00001 sec. I've watched Carr, Springer and Parker finish wheel to wheel many times and the rush never wears off.

Court

P.S. - you don't want any SR type motor in a Buell. The value of the XR, like the 1964 GTO, is steeper largely in tradition and the memories they evoke. You squeeze one of these in a Buell either Aaron, Pammy or Ron Dickey will own your first kid. That's life.

: )
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well i think ill keep my good ol evo type engines over an xr any day but they deffinatly are legandary
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

XRs have been placed into the catalog again, after an absence of a long time . . . .. many of the cases that circulate the Miles are older than the riders on em . . . . it's an evil, shakey, leaky, bellowing of a motor . .. I love em . . . ..

for sheer ballsiness, I am reminded of the guys that used to race em at Peoria and Sante Fe (Chicago) TTs . . . . .

I love "The Mile" as Court rightly calls it, but Peoria is a High Holy Day - - - -
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José_quiñones
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The "Supertrackers" still exist, they got blended into the Grand National Class, so XR750's are racing SV1000 Suzukis, Buells, the odd Ducati and APrilia. KTM has been working on a bike based on their 990 Adventure bikebut I don't think they have been racing it recently.

A Triumph Boneville based Dirt Tracker is also in the works for the Grand National Class for next year.

(Message edited by josé_quiñones on August 11, 2004)
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