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Buelliedan
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just read this over on SacBorg. many of you here probably know Andy Spiegal. He died today in a horrible crash where he went wide in a turn and was run over by an oncoming SUV. I wasn't there so I don't know all the details. This just sucks!!
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Chaser
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

R.I.P.
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Jon
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My heart goes out to the broken hearts that are in anguish.

I enjoyed Andy's posts. I feel he was a rare contributer. His posts were sharp and insightful. Seeing his face in a photo posted by Mike, helped finish my grasp of him as a person in the distance.
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Cap
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guys, I have some horrible news. Andy Speigel died in a motorcycle crash today. He helped many people on this and the other Buell boards. I want to set up a Memorial Fund for Andy. He was unemployed so his monetary situation is not good. He was a dear friend and I think that everyone who knew him or communicated with him online should help if they can. He has a daughter in Israel that the money can go to alond with helping his family with the funeral. I hope that everyone can dig up $50-$100 to help out. He meant a lot to me and this is one action that we can do to show what he means to us as a friend.
Thank you all,
Cap

edited by CAP on July 11, 2004

edited by CAP on July 11, 2004
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Paulinoz
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Link to Sacborg "The long Ride Home"

http://www.sacborg.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=010591

Link to Sacborg "Mermorial fund for Andy"

http://www.sacborg.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=010592
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Paulinoz
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Link to Sacborg "The long Ride Home"

http://www.sacborg.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=010591

Link to Sacborg "Mermorial fund for Andy"

http://www.sacborg.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=010592
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Another family member gone.
This sucks.
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Rex
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 04:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wasn't it andy that was adjusting suspension for all of us in the parking lot, at one of the homecomings? rex
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Seeeu911
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 05:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rex, I've never been to the home comings but yes, that was andy. I met andy and cap in daytona at bike week doing the same thing. Andy was a great guy a true Bueller who had compassion for the world. what a realy sad event.
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Court
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 06:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am very sorry to hear about Andy. I thought of him as a dear friend and an asset to the Buell community.

The last time I rode with him was the time he hit the deer and maintained control of the S1. He was an excellent rider.

I'll remember his smiling face when I visited him in his office one day in New Jersey and, while his supervisor was talking to him, I was behind him writing "BUY BUELL" on a sheet of paper and speed dialing the Verizon corporate fax machine to numbers unknown.

Andy was a very nice person, I'll miss him.

Court
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Grndskpr
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anybody else noticed that this year has been one of the worst years in recolection for get offs and deaths that the boards have seen in several years???I heart goes out to andys family, may he rest in peace, and please people be carefull oput there, i really am not interested in reading about anymore get offs and family departures
R
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Aaron
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm at a loss for words. I really liked Andy. This sucks.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

god speed andy

this is terrible
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Daves
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Very sorry to hear this, I did not know Andy well, I met him at the Homecoming in 2000
Godspeed Andy.
My thoughts are with his family and friends.

Dave
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Smadd
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Didn't know Andy well... but I remember all the time he devoted to helping others set up their bikes. Godspeed, Andy. My condolences to his family and friends.

Steve
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

add me to the group who did not get to speed much time with Andy, but have great memories of that time I DID get with him . . . .god speed, bro

also, Like Grouder said . . .this has been a bad year for the extended family . . . .please, veryone, take extra care out there
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was glad to see Andy back on the BadWeB after such a long time off. He sounded upbeat and happy to be back in the fold.

Terribly upsetting. My condolences to all, and a big sad hug to his children.

Rocket
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Cj_xb
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Was Andy the guy who had the daughter in Isreal that posted some about it in the war thread ??

Regardless, it makes me sad and all my sympathies go to his family !! I feel badly for the guys who were with him and witnessed the accident, prayers for all !!

CJ
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes Chris, that was him.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ride in peace, Andy.

Ferris & Denise
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ride in peace, Andy.

Ferris & Denise
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Captainkirk
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't know him personally, but he's answered some of my posts/questions in the past, I think. He seemed to be a helpful, intelligent guy. I hate to think of the loss of any of my "virtual" Buell friends. Ride safe out there, OK? We've had enough this year.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What a terrible loss for all of us.

Everytime I would see Andy's name in front of a new post I felt happier for it and was always anxious to read whatever it was Andy had to say. I recall only positive contributions from Andy on the various forums, and the one time I was fortunate enough to meet him in person he was no different, a true gentle man. He was one of those rare individuals who lifted up the rest of us around him. I will miss him sorely.

I hope all who knew him will take some time to send a note to Andy's family so that they might understand how many lives he affected in a very positive and exemplary way.

God bless Andy Spiegal.

Please send condolenses and a brief letter telling how Andy inspired or helped you to Andy's mother at the address below...

Mrs. Rita Spiegel
561 Phillips Lane
Watchung NJ 07069

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Cap
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want to thank everyone that has contributed to Andy. We are over $1400 now and this show the brotherhood of the motorcycling community and what Buell brought to all of us.

Andy, we will remember!

Cap
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Eeeeek
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He posted here as Andys.

Please check the Memorial fund thread PaulinOz referenced. Andy gave so much of himself to the Buell community.

Vik
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 03:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah... Ride in peace Andy.
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Hans
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Never met him, never spoke to him, don`t even know how to spell his full name, but it feels as the loss of a personal friend. He learned a whole generation of tube framers to fine tune the balance of their bikes. Numerous are the stories when Andy was sweating for fellow Buellers to get them a perfect setup, during meetings, while the group enjoyed the fine weather and a nice drink. He was one of the backbones of this board during the first 150 000 visitors: Always friendly and always helpful. The essentials of this board: The joy of riding and owning such an exceptional product needs to be shared and the will the help to keep others happy with their Buells.
Happened more than once, when the tires followed smoothly an unexpected dimple in the pavement of an (almost too fast) curve, that I thought afterward: Good product Dunlop, good engineering Erik, thanks Andy. Thanks Andy, for all your commitments. Rest in peace.
Hans

edited by hans on July 14, 2004
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Torqd
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What a loss...I actually slept in the same bed (or passed out on the same bed)as Andy...right next to our passed out, beloved, Cecil... after a long night out with the guys at homecoming 2000...Great memories of a Great guy...he will be missed by the guys in Central IL.

God bless and Godspeed Andy Spiegal!
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Bluzm2
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I never meet Andy in person, only online and in email.
He is one of many of the Buell folks on the internet I looked forward to meeting someday.
A while back Andy emailed me personally after I posted a suspension question.
His advice made a huge handling difference for my M2 thus greater enjoyment for me.
His viewpoints regarding the current state of the world were well thought out and well stated regardless of your idealogical leanings.


Andy, you will be missed. God speed.


Brad
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Godspeed Andy.

On another board from a guy who had heard about it regarding the curve:
>>>
It's pretty tight.

It's only about a mile from my house and the site of many accidents as the newspaper article indicated.

My condolences to his family and friends.
>>>

edited by josh_ on July 13, 2004
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

First, my apologies for posting here in the General Discussion; my reasons are two fold. First, to obtain the greatest visibility, new and old need to hear this. Second, I refuse to post anything about Andy Spiegel in an area titled "bad news"; it's a personal thing.

Today was special. It stung, it sung, it hurt, it smiled, it cried, it laughed.

A thousand people from around the world came to New Jersey to honor and lay to rest a friend. Although only a handful was present, a thousand were there.

Today proved that "home" is, at the same time, both where we are from and where we are going. Many of us, after spending a day with Andy's Family see much clearer the gift he shared.

Andy, physically, was the spitting image of his Father. Andy, emotionally and spiritually, I can say after only a day, was the spitting image of his Father. I struggle to recall the last time a group has been so warmly welcome and embraced. When Henrik and I arrived with the BUELL and Battle 2Win decals on the window of my truck I was, in all candor, a bit uneasy, to the point I nearly removed them. We sat for a bit and before long the first person to approach was Andy's Mother, warm, compassionate, hurt terribly and ready to embrace us as Andy's friends.

The graveside service reminded each of the assembled friends that our common love of life, the quest that rewards us with the smell of freshly mowed grass on a Sunday morning, the sport that allows me to stare in awe as the sun rises and my friends as it sets, can take us from family and friends. For these rewards, we freely take these risks. Andy's family had a keen sense for his fascination with life and need to chase the sun.

Mrs. Spiegel welcomed the friends to the Spiegel house for what is traditionally a portion of the mourning reserved for family. They saw in us, I think, the chance to more clearly see their beloved Son, Father and Friend, in our tales.

What they did not know was Andy's reach. I explained that last night, when I found the phone number I had for Mike Palladino was outdated; it was a phone call from Beverley South Australia moments later that provided me with it.

We stood for hours, Andy's Father returning several times, to hear the stories of "The Giver", the Andy who traveled half way cross this country with a perfectly good motorcycle, a trunk full of tools and a heart as big as a Kansas wheat field. Absent today was anyone who could recall him riding the motorcycle as he spent day and most the night tearing apart anyone's motorcycle that need suspension work. The story becomes amazing and heightens our loss when you, the new amongst us, understand that he did this for nothing but his love of his friends. This was Andy's way of "connecting". He had to have a part in his hand, to be doing something and that was his chance to listen, to talk and to learn.

Today, as we ate, laughed, cried, ate, told stories and ate, I found myself angry that never did I meet Andy's family before this. I'd ridden with him, done road trips around the city, he'd come to my office and I used to visit him for lunch. I see, with more clarity and admiration, where "home", emotionally and spiritually, was and cry that it took this to allow me to understand this part of Andy.

His Daughter, Isel (sp?) was there today and I took the chance to tell her that her Father spoke and wrote of her often. She needs to know that she was a hero in his eyes. During a recent discussion about events in the Middle East, I pretty much ignored the political thoughts, focusing instead on the intensity, sense of presence and passion with which Andy told his views as a Father who had a daughter in the area. As a Father of two sons, I understood his passion.

Andy Spiegel did several things exceedingly well, after today I realize the things he did best were love his family, embrace his friends and give to anyone who crossed his path.

I miss Andy more tonight than I did this morning. My comfort lies in knowing not only that he has "gone" home to a peaceful place, but also in knowing the home he came from.

May each of you, who knew Andy and who will learn through these tales of his kindness, ask whatever God you pray to, to hold dear and comfort the Spiegel family and give Andy everlasting piece.

We've sent our finest ahead of us on the road we all travel.

Court

Andy Spiegel

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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you Court. I have a candle lit for Andy and my thoughts and prayers are with him and his ohana. Not just those who where his family by blood or marriage, but the family that he built around him in his friends. To each and all of you, remember Ohana means "No one is left behind and no one is forgotten". Andy has touched many of our lives whether we met the man in person or met him here online only, but he was a man whose presence was enough that his spirit was conveyed through his words and his actions. Remember him and he shall always be with you. Andy's death has struck me very hard. I have only met him through Badweb in reading his posts. Never spoke to him or anything like that. I still feel as if he has touched my life in a way I shall never forget. Peace Andy, may your tank always be full and your tires full of grip as you race around Summerland.
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Buellish
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ride On Andy............

Mike
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thank you, Court.

thank you, Andy.
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Captainkirk
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well said, Court.You so often excel at putting to print the thoughts I have in my heart but can't quite make the journey to the written page.
Godspeed Andy. I took a little ride last night in your memory.
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Bikecrony
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To all of you wonderful people. This is Kim, Bikecrony's (Leo) wife. I've known Andy for thirteen years. Leo has known him almost twenty years. He met him when they started working together at Honda. Andy rode a Ducati. I have heard so many stories about this man. I have experienced a few of them myself. He was Leo's best friend. He considered Andy the brother he never had. Andy was Best Man at our Wedding. We've helped each other move. When we moved into our house the first thing Andy said was, "Good, it has a garage!" They looked at it as a, Garage with a House.
Sometimes Andy would call the house and I would talk to him for a half an hour before I would hand the phone over to Leo.
We took our kids to the movies together, went on Poker Runs, we broke bread together. We miss him so much. Words can't even describe the feelings that we are having. It's a big empty space in our hearts.
I want to thank all of you for the things that you have said about Andy. Reading what everyone had to say has made me feel so much better. I think has made all of us feel better. Andy didn't have a lot to give, so he gave of himself. As all of you know.
Thank you again for all your kind words.

Andy, You are loved by many, hated by few, Honored by All

Kim and Leo
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court and Henrik -- thank you both for flying the flag for the rest of us, and sharing our care for Andy with his family -- class move which is in no way surprising, but greatly appreciated
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Ebear
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Didn't get the Honor of meeting this man....But its oh so obvious he touched the hearts of all that did....GOD SPEED ANDY !!...and one day we'll ride together.}
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Orngm2,valve cover IS very close at al times.Clicking is most likely disc rattling.Try putting on front brake and see if it stops.

Court,Henrik,and all.I never met Andy,but heard so much about him via Badweb and the Buell community.I can remember laughing hilariously at the story of him driving through the front door.And his great work helping set up any/all suspension at Homecoming.He will be remembered--and missed.RIP Andy.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fireman Sir Knight Jim Higgins: Trust me, with my keen sense of the human condition, to assure you that you and Mr. Spiegel would have bonded effortlessly and quickly, in the world of hooliganism, been fast friends, in a way, in a neat vicarious way that is uniquely ours as a result of a shared fascination with live and the roads that connect, it's pieces, I am pleased to tell you that, even though you may not have known it, you and Andy Spiegel were the best of friends.

Wait?...is that an compliment or...never mind.



>>>I can remember laughing hilariously at the story of him driving through the front door.

That story was told several times yesterday and took on new meaning as Brother Mike Palladino added "the view from the bike owner's perspective". I nearly spewed a drink as I laughed. Part of the hilarity was Mike's uncanny ability to deliver such a soliloquy; another part was the sheet fact that it was TRUE; the last component was the look on Andy's Father's face. Let me say, that a person who knew Andy, knew his parents. Cut from the same cloth was he.

I hope, someday, to seize the moment to simply stop in, pay a social visit and when the hurt of their loss ebbs, thank them once again for maker the lives of folks they could never even know were out there, fuller.

Court
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court,
As always, you have a way of putting into words what the heart is saying silently.
Thankyou for being our eyes on this dim day.

Last night after getting home from work I felt listless.
I put the M2 up on the rack and checked a couple of things then sat back on the milk crate and stared.
Even though it was almost 9:00 I still felt oddly disconnected and antsy.

Court, after reading your note above I now know why.

I took the bike off the rack, suited up and hit the road.
After about 60 miles of back roads and small towns I felt better. Tired yet refreshed.
I slept well.

Thanks Andy
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Mikeyp
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Court,
Real nice words, and done so much nicely than i could ever write, (even without cursing..)

It was good to see smiling faces yesterday afternoon, retelling stories of Andy in the driveway.

It was well needed, especailly for me, Cecil, both Gregs, Joe,and Eric, who spent Andy's last minutes with him.

It is something none of us will ever forget.

Henrik, speaking to you on the phone was something special, and i appreciate your honesty with me. Next time, let's make it a happy occasion i see you, OK?

We need to have a non-bike night out with the boys.

It should prove to be theraputic!



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