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Daves
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, I figure it's only fair. I took a picture of him last year riding a 9S in Waterloo.
I haven't had the chance to ride a 04 R1 yet. Things got to be awesome!

Dave
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Brucelee
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brucelee,

"If Eric puts the V-rod motor in a Buell you might end up having some growing up to do. "

Not sure what you mean. Please elaborate.



"And if the XB is so great why would you want Eric to do that? "

I think the XB IS great and have said so. I did not say it is the be all and end all of bikes and that folks should just stop trying to improve the breed!

"Why? Because deep, deep down alot of us Buellers yearn for the performance of an R1 wrapped in Buell skin."

Not sure I would want the performance of an R1 if it came wrapped in a Buell skin. I would have to ride it. The point I was making was to use a Vtwin motor like the VROD to keep the low end and smoother torque characteristics vs. 14K rpms.



"Don't get me wrong I love my XB, but if Eric made a bike that had the #'s of a liter bike and the character of a Buell would I want one?

Damn straight, I'd trade up in a heartbeat."

I think you might be waiting a long time on that.

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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just found this image, should probably replace the gas tank stickers that are currently on bikes:
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Ingemar
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's funny!

Hey! ... do I see the first two letters of the DAF logo? That would mean the shot was taken in the dutch truck machinery ...
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could be, I was just random image searching, lost the link already.
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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it's EriK not EriC
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420at145mph
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake "It is interesting that those who are so concerned with racing performance don't race"
just cuz we dont have saftey wires and number plates.........
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This was the most response I've ever had starting a thread. Many fine thoughts and I thank you all for the input. MY last word "ride to the edge but not beyond so we can all do this again together" on the road, on the track and on this fine forum.
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Jasonblue
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brucelee, from your post- "Personally, when I see some guy pull a wheelie on the street, I only think he has some growing up to do."

Basically I was saying that if EriK put a V-rod motor in a XB you might be doing some wheelies yourself. Which isn't such a bad thing. Sometimes.
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Brucelee
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Brucelee, from your post- "Personally, when I see some guy pull a wheelie on the street, I only think he has some growing up to do."

Basically I was saying that if EriK put a V-rod motor in a XB you might be doing some wheelies yourself. Which isn't such a bad thing. Sometimes"

I hear you and you may be right. I guess I was thinking of those Jackasses who pull wheelies on public roads and get the local folks all in a lather. Makes it difficult to convince the citizens that most riders deserve respect and are decent folks in their own right.

Yes, a wheelie on a side road with no one to get hurt would be fun indeed.

Of course, the XB can do that right now, so perhaps I will go out and indulge later today.

Thanks!

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Socoken
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

geez,

sure are a lot of people bitching about my bitching about dynas bitching.

all i asked was that he toned it down with the anti buell sentiment. all he had to say was, no.



how come I do see guys like you being corrected for calling names and posting disrespecfully with regards to other people?

find where i called someone a name or was corrected by a moderator.

people are reading into things the way they want, myself included, and there are as many different perceptions into any given post as there are people reading it.

im trying to wash my hands of this, without bitching, or offending anyone.

I'm sure Dyna's still pretty stoked with his new R1, so what better place for him to rejoice, in the company of his BadWeB friends,...

i misinterpreted things, and thats a damn good point. i was a little close minded, but the way i read into what he says about buells sways me to see things that way. he loves his bike, and thats great, i would love one too. so, ive realized i need to think more when i read his posts, as well as think more before i type.


its hard to come away from being called a bitch, a whiner, a crybaby, and an , without going on the offensive, but i just want to try and clear things up. dyna has obviously taken a lot of what i had said personally, and thats a shame, cause its not what i meant to happen. in the future, i will try not to post in his threads, or take what he says about buells personally.


have a good weekend
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Jasonblue
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey look at that, we CAN all get along.

Kinda......
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ken, thats where you are wrong. I learned a long long time ago to take none of this seriously or personally.

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Bkw_bmw
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna,

Don't want to burst your bubble or anything, but just wanted to let you know that here on the left coast - R1's are considered chick bikes.

As in 90% of R1s are bought by chicks, the other 10% ride like them.

When you gonna quit fooling around and get a real bike?


Bcube
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats ok, I am in touch with my feminine side & right now I feel pretty
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Rocketman
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ken, you've been around long enough to know Dyna's post are often fueled.

If Dynas wife loves him enough to buy him an R1 can he really be a shite or is she trying to get rid of him?


Rocket
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Court
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was delayed this morning by yet another R1 terminal speed exercise.

This one ended suddedenly thanks to an Armco corregated barrier.

The bike was blocking the NB lane of the FDR.

The body was blocking the SB lanes.

Boy...those things ARE fast.

Someone please explain to me why a person needs a 170MPH bike in NYC?
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Someone please explain to me why a person needs a 170MPH bike in NYC?

Nobody needs anything, its a want.

As far as deaths on bikes go, the last 3 here in my town have been in this order.
#1. M2 cyclone....car pulled out in front of rider
#2. XB9R..single rider accident, ran into a telephone pole
#3. Kawi Ninja..Rider doing over 120 mph & locked up the brakes, slid under a car & was decapitated.

Point being, you can become just as dead on a 75 hp bike as you can on a 150 hp one. Its not the bike, but rather the rider.
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Someone please explain to me why a person needs a 170MPH bike in NYC?"

Define Need vs Want

http://www.jimrothe.com/pictures/nyautoshow2001/p4140041.jpg

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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW...high speed is not required to cause death.
Last year during the HD 100th, only 1 fatality was reported for the entire time...a remarkable happening considering the number of bikes here & seeing just how poorly a lot of them rode..anyways unfortunately the 1 death was a 10 yr old boy riding on the back of his dads Sporty. Dad didnt stop in time & ran into the back of a taxi, he wasnt going very fast at all & the boy was wearing a helmet, but he fell off & somehow died.
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Tripper
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Speed does not kill.




It's the sudden deceleration that gets ya.
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Road_thing
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting Mitch Boehm editorial in the recent issue of Motorcyclist--he's recalling the effort by the insurance companies in the '70's that helped kill musclecars of that era and suggesting that today's hi-po scooters could suffer the same fate. Ironically, he calls on superbike riders to exercise some good judgment--and this comes from the editor of the American magazine that has, for the last 25 years or so demanded more performance from the manufacturers!

r-t
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was a combination of events that killed off the musclecars.

Nixon in the whitehouse, loss of jobs, ongoing war, the gas crisis, as well as the insurance industry.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But the best thing is todays muscelcars will runcircles around the old ones. Better handling, more comfort, better gas mileage, etc. And they are just as quick if not quicker in stock form.

Quite a few of todays performance cars can run in the 12's on street tires, back then a lot of the so called muscle cars were mid 14 second cars at best.
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Daves
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now come on Dyna, you know that all those late 60s muscle cars could run 10 second 1/4 miles.

Dave
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At least thats what the owners remember them as.

I recall reading an issue of Musclecar mag a few years back & they took a completely stock 69 or 70 Boss 302. Even with decent tires that car was only in the 15's. Christ I had a V6 Daytona that could pull those numbers.
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Road_thing
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not sure Nixon and the war played much of a role, but without a doubt the first gas crisis and the insurance companies had a negative impact on the performance of the muscle cars of the era.

And you're dead on about the old cars vs. the new ones!

"The older we get, the faster we were"

I also enjoy the fact that the first scheduled "tune-up" service on my new Suburban comes at 100,000 miles! The new stuff is definitely light-years ahead of the old in terms of longevity as well as performance. Having said all that, I'd still like to have a small-block '69 Camaro...

r-t
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think most of us would love to have one of the old musclecars as a weekend toy.

But right now im looking at the new 2005 Mustang & its sweet looking. Has the look of the 65-68 years, but modern performance.
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Daves
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What engine do those have?

Dave
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dont know...4.6 litre I think.
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