| Author | Message | ||
     S1wmike |
Hello All, By now you have probably heard that President Obama came to Montana last Friday. However, there are many things that the major news has not covered. I feel that since Bill and I live here and we were at the airport on Friday I should share some facts with you. Whatever you decide to do with the information is up to you. If you chose to share this email with others I do ask that you DELETE my email address before you forward this on. On Wednesday, August 5th it was announced locally that the President would be coming here. There are many groups here that are against his healthcare and huge spending so those groups began talking and deciding on what they were going to do. The White House would not release ANY details other than the date. On about Tuesday Bill found out that they would be holding the "Town Hall" at the airport. (This is only because Bill knows EVERYONE at the airport) Our airport is actually located outside of Belgrade (tiny town) in a very remote location. Nothing is around there. They chose to use a hangar that is the most remotely located hangar. You could not pick a more remote location, and you can not get to it easily. It is totally secluded from the public. FYI: We have many areas in Belgrade and Bozeman which could have held a large amount of folks with sufficient parking. (gymnasiums/auditoriums). All of which have chairs and tables, and would not have to be SHIPPED IN!! $$$$$ During the week, cargo by the TONS was being shipped in constantly. Airport employees could not believe how it just kept coming. Though it was our President coming several expressed how excessive it was, especially during a recession. $$$$$ Late Tuesday/early Wednesday the 12th, they said that tickets would be handed out on Thursday 9am at two locations and the president would be arriving around 12:30 Friday. Thursday morning about 600 tickets were passed out. However, 1500 were printed at a Local printing shop per White House request. Hmmmm......900 tickets just DISAPPEARED. This same morning someone called into the radio from the local UPS branch and said that THOUSANDS of Dollars of Lobster were shipped in for Obama. Montana has some of the best beef in the nation! And it would have been really wonderful to help out the local economy. Anyone heard of the Recession?? Just think...with all of the traveling the White House is doing. $$$$$ One can only imagine what else we are paying for. On Friday Bill and I got out to the airport about 10:45am. The groups that wanted to protest Obama's spending and healthcare had gotten a permit to protest and that area was roped off. But that was not to be. A large bus carrying SEIU (Service Employees International Union) members drove up onto the area (illegal)and unloaded right there. It was quite a commotion and there were specifically 2 SEIU men trying to make trouble and start a fight. Police did get involved and arrested the one man but they said they did not have the manpower to remove the SEIU crowd. The SEIU crowd was very organized and young. About 99% were under the age of 30 and they were not locals! They had bullhorns and PROFESSIONALLY made signs. Some even wore preprinted T-shirts. Oh, and Planned Parenthood folks were with them.....professing abortion rights with their T-shirts and preprinted signs. (BTW, all these folks did have a permit to protest in ANOTHER area) Those against healthcare/spending moved away from the SEIU crowd to avoid confrontation. They were orderly and respectful. Even though SEIU kept coming over and walking through, continuing to be very intimidating and aggressive at the direction of the one SEIU man. So we had Montana folks from ALL OVER the state with their homemade signs and their DOGS with homemade signs. We had cowboys, nurses, doctors you name it. There was even a guy from Texas who had been driving through. He found out about the occasion, went to the store, made a sign, and came to protest. If you are wondering about the press.....Well, all of the major networks were over by that remote hangar I mentioned. They were conveniently parked on the other side of the buildings FAR away. None of these crowds were even visible to them. I have my doubts that they knew anything about the crowds. We did have some local news media around us from this state and Idaho . Speaking of the local media...they were invited. However, all questions were to be turned into the White House in advance of the event. Wouldn't want anyone to have to think off the top of their head. It was very obvious that it was meant to be totally controlled by the White House. Everything was orchestrated down to the last detail to make it appear that Montana is just crazy for Obama and government healthcare. Even those people that talked about their insurance woes........the White House called our local HRDC (Human Resource and Development Committee) and asked for names. Then the White House asked those folks to come. Smoke and mirrors...EVERYTHING was staged! I am very dismayed about what I learned about our current White House. The amount of control and manipulation was unbelievable. I felt I was not living in the United States of America, more like the USSR! I was physically nauseous. Bill and I have been around when Presidents or Heads of State visit. It has NEVER been like this. I am truly very frightened for our country. America needs your prayers and your voices. If you care about our country please get involved. Know the issues. And let Congress hear your voices -- again and again! If they are willing to put forth so much effort to BULLY a small town one can only imagine what is going on in Washington DC . Scary! Kathy Bozeman, Montana | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Lobstergate!! | ||
| Bikejunky |
Thank you Kathy. Freedom of information is the key to keeping us FREE. | ||
| Slaughter |
So Mike, What/who is the source of the original "Kathy" referred to in the start of this? Who is "Bill" These friends of yours? They're in MT, you're in VA so I can only assume this is a cut-and-paste from somewhere - WHERE? Be good to know some background so this story can have some credibility. (Message edited by slaughter on August 23, 2009) | ||
| Reindog |
This story does not check out on snopes. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/montana.asp | ||
| Slaughter |
Boys and girls, you GOTTA check stuff out. It's getting EMBARRASSING. | ||
| Bill0351 |
This was the first time I have ever been "warbed!" Thanks for that! Bill | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Bill, I think it was a mistype. It was supposed to say "warped"  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Boys and girls, you GOTTA check stuff out. Agreed! Gotta real story with real facts, post it up. Bogus facts and wrongly placed outrage undermines your position. You become the political equivalent to the boy who cried wolf. | ||
| Court |
Hahahaha . . I am no Obama fan but I did spend 2 years with The White House Advance Team and smelled that one out by about the 3rd sentence. | ||
| Slaughter |
Frustrating thing is I largely agree with the OP - S1Mike - it's just that the "copy-and-paste" sharing of stuff has to stop until/unless it's checked out. It's my new crusade... (that and suspension mods before engine mods) | ||
| Bosh |
Re: This story does not check out on snopes. Just wondering.... who runs Snopes and how reliable are they to get the facts right? | ||
| Slaughter |
At least Snopes ALWAYS publishes their sources so you can CHECK IT OUT Just check stuff out before copy-and-paste instead of thinking... EVEN IF you agree with the sentiment expressed CHECK IT OUT first!! How do you think urban legends spread so fast??? | ||
| Slaughter |
And you should NEVER be so lazy to ONLY quote one source. Check the references in the first place you come to - and check them about 3 deep before you post something on a discussion board or email your friends. I'm talking about 5 minutes effort here. NOTHING you receive in email or read "on the net" is so urgent that it can't wait another 5 minutes so you can check the sources. AND THEN - because so much of this IS Urban Legend or Net Rumor - OUT IT. Send your links and sources back to the boob that sent you the original - use <Reply All> so EVERYBODY sees it. That is a BIG part of the problem. People are unwilling to spend more than 2 minutes verifying something before forwarding it to a dozen of their e-mail contacts. (HELL - most people don't spend ANY time trying to verify something - they think it's so URGENT that they'll post it or email-forward it within a minute) Snopes, Wikipedia are only STARTING places to check on the validity of anything. CHECK before you post. Amazing what it'll do for your credibility. (Message edited by slaughter on August 23, 2009) (Message edited by slaughter on August 23, 2009) | ||
| Nevrenuf |
guilty here. i shouldn't be so lazy i guess. | ||
| S1wmike |
Boys and girls, you GOTTA check stuff out. My Bad it came to mr from a friend of the family who is a retired Marine pilot and commercial pilot. So it did not occur to my to verify the source/s. I have voiced my opinions here several times before on several different topics, but this is the first time I just cut and pasted anything | ||
| Blake |
Stupid false reporting. It wasn't lobster. It was truffles and caviar! | ||
| S1wmike |
It wasn't lobster. It was truffles and caviar! O.K. I got it now I was trying to figure out what part I had wrong. THANKS!!!  | ||
| Just_ziptab |
"I read it on the Internet,so it must be true"............ | ||
| Slaughter |
Hope I didn't sound likea jerk... I had JUST gotten something very similar from a friend and had JUST finished lecturing. I was in a bitchy mood. | ||
| Blake |
Say it isn't so Loretta. | ||
| Greenlantern |
No one warbs me! (unless you buy me dinner first of course.) | ||
| Swordsman |
"I read it on the Internet,so it must be true" That goes for Snopes as well. They make mistakes. It's been removed now, but there WAS a Snopes story claiming that Mr. Ed, the talking horse, was in fact a zebra, and that the stripes didn't show up because of the way black and white televisions worked. Snopes had it labeled as TRUE. Lost my faith in 'em right then and there. ~SM | ||
| Chellem |
It's been removed now, but there WAS a Snopes story claiming that Mr. Ed, the talking horse, was in fact a zebra, and that the stripes didn't show up because of the way black and white televisions worked. Snopes had it labeled as TRUE. That sounds like an internet rumor. Somebody check Snopes on that one! | ||
| Bill0351 |
That Snopes/Mr. Ed thing was funny. I got message about Snopes calling that one wrong as an email forward (ironic). Everything about the forward was from Snopes, but when I looked into it, it turned out that the posting comes from a joke/comedy section of the site. That section also includes this article about fractions and decimals being made illegal in Mississippi because they were too hard to learn. http://www.snopes.com/lost/fraction.asp | ||
| Slaughter |
The main thing to learn from ALL this - is you just gotta check things out - and DO NOT EVER use the internet to educate yourself. Besides, there is NOTHING in ANY forwarded "truth" that is so urgent that it REQUIRES you to pass it along. IF it is THAT IMPORTANT to you, then it is CERTAINLY important enough to take the time to check it out. If it's not that important, LET IT DIE. DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING ON FACE VALUE - Snopes or Encyclopedia Brittanica or Al Jazeera - CHECK THEM OUT. | ||
| Reindog |
The Mr. Ed entry is in The Repository Of Lost Legends (TROLL) section of snopes. Read what they say about False Authority. They even tell you not to believe everything you read. http://www.snopes.com/lost/false.asp Some other entries are here and they are funny. http://www.snopes.com/lost/lost.asp#false Does anyone know why one can't cut and paste from snopes entries? I am using Firefox. (Message edited by reindog on August 24, 2009) | ||
| Bill0351 |
I loved the one about mobile homes. It turns out they aren't called mobile homes because they're easy to move around. They are named after Mobile Alabama where they were invented! Who would have thought? | ||
| Greenlantern |
Even funnier, I was visiting relatives in Mobile last fall and don't recall even seeing a mobile home! Well at least I have something new to razz my Brother, Aunts and Uncles about now! | ||
| Slaughter |
Snopes protects their copyrights - that's why you can't copy and paste. The problem also is people taking things out of context - they'd RATHER you post a link to the original article in Snopes. Put in the time required to write up your own review and then insert a Snopes link. Kinda like: Did you know that Coca Cola used to have cocaine as an ingredient? I checked it out on Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp Checked it on Wikipedia too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola - only took me about 2 minutes. More links at the bottom of the Wikipedia article on Coca Cola. You get the idea. CHALLENGE people to do the research - and if they don't do the simplest of checks, then EMBARRASS them! |
