| Author | Message | ||
     Liquorwhere |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32265981/?GT1=43001 To summarize the link, a girl is suing her school, the Monroe College, apparently in the Bronx, because get this...she cannot find a job and wants her tuition back...Can they wipe her mind of the education they gave her and give the money back???hmmm...anyway, it gets better, she says the school hasn't given her any leads for jobs or career advice it promises....wow...she may have to actually go out and find her own job....that would be terrible....sounds like someone else I just read on another thread that didn't like her Free Lunch..... | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
If by some small chance she wins even a measly settlement from this suit the college should retract her status as a graduate, demand she return her diploma, and freeze all credits she received at their school so that she can't transfer them to other schools. | ||
| Sifo |
Don't you understand that she is entitled to a good paying job? It's the new America! +1 Not_purple! If you want a refund you must give back the product. | ||
| Hootowl |
The school has a placement program, which she paid for. Her assertion is that they are not trying hard enough to place her. I think it is a valid complaint. | ||
| Sifo |
It's up to her to prove they are not doing their part. Given the current economy and the possibility that she isn't the best candidate for employment she has a huge up hill battle. Her suit should be for the help she feels she isn't getting, not a refund for the education that she received. | ||
| U4euh |
Yea and any perspective employer chances just flew out the window! | ||
| Slaughter |
Name me ONE job agency that GUARANTEES placing ALL applicants? (well, except certain families as represented by the Sopranos) | ||
| Danny_h__jesternut |
If there are no jobs for the new grads, how are they going to pay back the big student loans? Is there another banking crisis on the horizon? All the kids defaulting on the loans? Bail out, we need a bail out! | ||
| Kyrocket |
+1 U4euh, I was thinking the exact same thing when I read it. What's your name? ooohhh, uuhh, we don't have any positions open right now...or ever. | ||
| Froggy |
Would the bank foreclose on your brain if you default on your student loans? | ||
| Nevrenuf |
probably out partying all night and doesn't want to get up and look. | ||
| Wheelybueller |
Hey,this is great news for me. If this "student" wins it may set a precedent.I can only "hope for change". With my daughter starting her sophomore year,I may need a way to recoup my losses if she cant get a job after graduating. I should get a refund,20k a year*4 years plus interest this should be a cool 100k. Or she continues to "work hard" any pound the pavement while looking. All the while she can be proud of working hard for something she wants. | ||
| Fahren |
This is really not a reflection on the student, nor on the college, but on the sad state of higher education in this country. There was a time when one went to college to become educated (that was the goal). Now one goes to college to get job training, or to receive the letters after the name that allows one to go for specific jobs. And the college "business" is so expensive that students choose what area of study they will pursue so they can get a job that will allow them to pay off their enormous debt from student loans - they are not thinking simply of "becoming educated." | ||
| Loki |
This should be done in front of Judge Judy and aired for all to ridicule the plaintiff. Another good case for tort reform. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
It would be interesting to see if they are not helping her find work, or if she just isn't doing her part. I had a friend go to a school that made it sound like they would do everything you could think of to get him a job. Theyn didn't do anything. No contacts to call, no interviews, nada. But then again he went out and found one on his own... | ||
| Doubled |
From my experience, the typical "placement program" many universities offer consist of multiple job fairs throughout the course of the school year, lists of current openings, and a coach to help you prepare a resume, cover letter, and prep for interviews. Of course, this all takes a rather large effort on the part of the student to make it a success. I am curious how much effort she is putting forth into finding a job. Me personally, I started going to career fairs my sophomore year and began work on my resume early in my junior year. By the time I graduated I had no problem getting a job. Has she been doing the same? Or is she expecting someone else to do all of the leg work for her? | ||
| Court |
There are some interesting social "defenses" beginning to appear. I am seeing Wall Street change the way they do compensation. Vickie's young cousin got told they didn't want to pay bonuses this year so they gave her a $350,000 pay increase spread out over 11 months. I graduated from Columbia (and at 55 got 3 nice job offers following graduation . . but I ain't moving to TX or MN) and have recently been contacted by the President of the University. Columbia has contacted ALL graduates (including Barack Obama and Eric Holder) and urged them to post ANY job openings at the CAA site first and give preferential consideration to Columbia Alumni. I think the Obama administration is going to start stratifying the economy, not fixing it. Money always finds a way. | ||
| Slaughter |
An IT line of study was THE career path to pursue TWO DECADES AGO! She'd have just as much of a future had she majored in Art History. | ||
| Indybuell |
I majored in IT, and am doing just fine. | ||
| Vortec57 |
If she manages a refund can I get at least a partial refund of my tuition? I worked for 2 years after graduation to get a job, first time I DIDN'T use any profs as references I got a job. After 5 more years of it I quit and went back to school for another job. | ||
| Turk |
Can they wipe her mind of the education they gave her and give the money back??? If someone is dumb enough to be believe that they should be guaranteed employment, wiping her mind of the education is probably not needed... | ||
| Liquorwhere |
If someone is dumb enough to be believe that they should be guaranteed employment, wiping her mind of the education is probably not needed... +1  | ||
| Sifo |
f someone is dumb enough to be believe that they should be guaranteed employment, wiping her mind of the education is probably not needed...  | ||
| Crackhead |
Fahren, you have hit the nail on the head for what high school and college is used for. If i want to learn i read professional journals and books, but to get a job i have to sit in a class room to get the capitalized letters for my resume. That girl just hurt and future job opportunities. My current boss even did a Yahoo and face book search on me. | ||
| Liquorwhere |
http://www.newsweek.com/id/210252?GT1=43002 This one tops the reason for the thread...please read the article about how we are as a country should pay people to have more children as they do everywhere else, it is an article infected with socialism....my god where will it end?????? | ||
| Sifo |
Good grief! 47 weeks of paid maternity leave! You can have the next one out of the oven by then! | ||
| Cityxslicker |
She should STFU. Try getting a 4 year degree in Soviet government, and Russian Language with a minor in Economics and graduating the year the Wall in E. Berlin tumbles, the Soviet Union falls, all the active duty linguists are released, and the job market is FLOODED with people with 15 years experience instantly jobless. Best laid intentions of education guarantee nothing. Adapt, improvise and overcome; get on with the rest of your life. On an equally sad note, I was talking to a twenty something girl friend applicant and she never knew that Berlin was divided ! she was next'd quik (Message edited by cityxslicker on August 04, 2009) | ||
| Froggy |
90% of what I know of history and Berlin and crap is from video games. Battlefield 1942 was very educational to me, I didn't even know Italy and Russia were involved in WW2 till then. | ||
| Slaughter |
Interesting not knowing Russia was involved in WWII when she lost almost one third of her entire male population!!! (a lot of it due to Stalin - another story) - Russia had the HIGHEST casualty rate of ALL countries in the war. In the battle for Stalingrad, she lost MORE than we lost in the entire war in the USA. And Italy... fought (kinda) on both sides as did France... But wait, there's MORE! I love this stuff. | ||
| Froggy |
Who better to learn about war from than someone named Slaughter  |
