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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only thing between the lines is empty space - step away from the Koolaid.
EZ
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I sold what I could get ahold of, I had unmet demand. I have a current list of 3 that are looking for one, and I cant get them (they are looking for the R/E Blasts though, so the used market is a bit different)
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does this mean the THUMPer forum will be closed?
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same time they close the Tuber section - lol
EZ
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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nah, just roll it into the Old Skool Buell section lol. (It's a joke ppl)
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Greenlantern
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It could be consolidated with the Old School forum.




(If they will have them!)







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Fast1075
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most markets do not develop on their own...they are created...lets get BUSY!

First order...Customer: Harry...Quantity one (1) each...truly badass AMERICAN MADE
sub 700 class lightweight corner ripper. Color "Deadly Black" with "Evil Red" Wheels.

Engine Specification: Lightweight DOHC single or parallel twin...HP in the range of 70...usable power 2K thru 10K+. 6 speed close ratio transmission.

Suspension: Fully adjustable

Wheels: 17 x 3.5 front 17 x 5.5 or 6 rear.

Seat height 31" or less.

Lean angle: 50* either side.

Weight: Wet...350# or less.

Who gets my check? I will settle for a serial number under 000050.
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Greenlantern
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only thing between the lines is empty space - step away from the Koolaid.


Don't touch the stuff. That was my assessment and it was drawn logically from all the facts I have at hand and the stories we have been told. I'll even go out on a limb and predict 2012 model year. Can't imagine all that Blast and XB tooling going in the trash so quickly.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

With all this crushing of Blasts going on I'd be a little concerned about showing up at Homecoming on one, especially if the Blast table is a hot seller.
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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a sneaking suspicion your right. I predict that before too long the lump will be history.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

REPOST

To all the Blast owners:

I'm sorry but we have to cut you loose. It was nice while it lasted but we can't have you slow-ass beginner bike mo-fo's slowing down this ruthless ride to sport bike nirvana. Take care and go ride a Honda Rebel or something.

P.S. You Harley inspired lump of a motor XB riders are next
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Leatherneck
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is Buell going around and taking everyones Blast away? That is what you guys are making it sound like.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is Buell going around and taking everyones Blast away?
No, just a little pride I reckon.
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Sayitaintso
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sorry but we have to cut you loose. It was nice while it lasted but we can't have you slow-ass beginner bike mo-fo's slowing down this ruthless ride to sport bike nirvana. Take care and go ride a Honda Rebel or something.

P.S. You Harley inspired lump of a motor XB riders are next


P.P.S. And then the Rotax will be on the chopping block because we are really getting sick and tired of hearing the IL-4 folks moaning about the displacement difference and are worried that there may be another rule change which will take us out of racing
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Its ok, its all me over in Rooster :P
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL - how many people on this Board started on a Blast - more than just a few, and the Blast riders - that would be another good percentage - seems to a lot of folk, including myself, that our potential as customers was kicked to the side in favor of future squids - all part of Ruthless Engineering philosophy - eh?

You make it sound like EVERY Buell owner rode a Blast first.

There HAVE been a significant number of Blast owners, but they were not the PRIMARY owners of those bikes.

There are a significant number of Crown Vic owners as well. A large portion of those were second hand police cruisers sold at auction or retired from taxi fleets.

What's the point?

There will still be Blasts. They will be sold to the same primary owners, the dealerships with RE programs. There will still be Blasts on the secondary market. There will still be many owners for them who will take their first rides ever on Blasts.

They are being less "disowned" than the M2 and X1. At least Buell will still be making the Blast in the foreseeable future. RE programs need bikes.

You'll still be able to get parts for them because RE programs will need to keep their bikes running.

It's like Pontiac stopped making the Vibe but Toyota is still building the Matrix.

The Blast didn't make 10 years of production because it was a popular beginner's bike. It made 10 years of production because RE needed a bike and the Blast fit.

Blast riders owning Blasts in the open market was a secondary side effect of the RE program not the other way around.

You only need to look at who was the primary CONSUMER of the Blast to see why the bike survived.

It isn't that the Blast isn't a great bike. It's that it occupied a slot that needs to be filled by a new bike that ISN'T intended for RE. One where the CONSUMER is the driving force NOT RE.

This bike doesn't need a RE program as it's primary consumer:




Nor does this:




Sitting side by side with the Blast on the floor, I know which one I would pick given the choice.

We simply haven't see what is coming next.
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You make it sound like EVERY Buell owner rode a Blast first.
Bullshit - that is you saying that and attributing that to me -
you know that - what I said I stand by - that Blast owners and former owners where offended by that add, the rest of your rhetoric has nothing to with what I am talking about - a potential group of customers where blown off, in favor potential squid buyers - pure bad marketing - there is nothing new coming, it was a consolidation year, and to get your mind off the fact that there is nothing new, he threw out a few accessories, and disavowed the Blast to get folks off the fact that he had nada, ziltch, zip! It worked - look at all that silly hype about BOB, and the requests to buy a cube - all disguising the simple fact that its all smoke, mirrors, hot air and hype - no replacement products, nothing new - period. This will all blow over in a few months, and they'll turn to each other and say, "See - nobody noticed - the add worked!" But I think a lot of Blastards will remember, and will think twice before buying another Buell. It seems to me not enough thought was put into the aftermath that ad campaign would create among the fans he already has, in his fever to recruit new ones. I call it poor business practice in a time where every dollar and customer counts. That is what I question - Buell motorcycles are still my favorite, however, I must question how long a company will be around, if it feels it can at any time piss off a portion of its customer base, just to make a point. Poor business indeed.
EZ
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is Buell the ONLY manufacturer that didn't introduce a new model for 2010?

2008 was the last year that the Blast was part of the Buell line-up. They just made the termination from the line official for 2010.


Had the announcement of the termination of the Blast been quiet would it have been better?

Would Blastards have been less offended?

Would Blast owners be ready to storm East Troy?


I'm disappointed that nothing has been ANNOUNCED for this year as a super single.


I will be really sad if there is no super single in the future. I strongly believe there is a market.

If I only purchased the Goldwing and would never buy any other Honda model, am I a fan of Honda or the Goldwing?

If I only purchased the GSXR and would never buy any other Suzuki model, am I am fan of Suzuki or the GSXR?

If I only purchased the Blast and would never buy any other Buell model, am I a fan of Buell or the Blast?


I believe there were similar grumblings when Buell went away from the Sportster plant to the XB line. I KNOW there were grumblings (and still are) when Buell introduced the 1125 Rotax power plant.

Was Buell intentionally pissing off THOSE buyers and loyal customers too?

We've picked up a significantly larger "squid" contingent with the 1125 platform.

Was it worth it if the price was pissing off the last generation of Buell owner?

I don't know.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've just neve heard of a company putting down their own product. Even one that they don't make anymore. Somebody tell me what's the point of saying we used to make a POS bike, but not anymore?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who said it was a POS? Erik sure didn't.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Have all of you guys watched the second of the two Blast videos? The one titled "Ruthless for a Reason". I don't see anything in that video that could be construed as Erik putting down the Blast, and he certainly didn't say it was a POS.
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Rainman
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Had the announcement of the termination of the Blast been quiet would it have been better? Would Blastards have been less offended?

Damn straight I'd have been less offended.

I have no problem with them canceling the Blast. 10 years is a long time. I have no problem with them taking their name off it and producing as an RE bike.

My problem came from the way it was done.

Tell me the bike doesn't fit with the image. I can see that. Tell me that it will continue to be built for RE. Man-up, tell me the truth and don't be an adolescent ass about it.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Understand Rainman.


How much traffic would one normally expect from a "new colors and bold new graphics" year?

Has the traffic for Buell been more or less than one would have been expected from a "new colors and bold new graphics" year?

Did the ad do it's job, to drive traffic?


I think it was an affront to Blast owners as well.

For the rest of the Buell uninitiated, it was a comical end to a bike for which they had little respect anyway.
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Rainman
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was good, reliable, regular little motorcycle, to paraphrase, but it's dragging the company down, making it look bad, embarassing the hell out of us ... kinda like that idiot cousin who spits all over himself when he eats at Thanksgiving.

That's what I hear when listening to Ruthless for a Reason as the bike got crushed.

Perception is everything. The words and images, tell a different story when put together.
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Rainman
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For the rest of the Buell uninitiated, it was a comical end to a bike for which they had little respect anyway.

Boy, can I attest to that!!!!!!
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Naustin
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actions speak louder than words; only garbage gets crushed.

I don't care what he said. What bothers me is what he DID, and the grin on his face when he did it.

Call me a bitch and count my panties twisted, I don't care.

You want ruthless? - Then ditch the Thunderstorm power plant! To claim you are about "Ruthless Engineering" while you are still building bikes around that hand-me-down technology from the 1950s is pretty stupid.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For those who didn't own one and had never ridden one (and probably haven't ridden any other Buell either), the Blast WAS the idiot cousin.

Buell got traction from an non-event.


We've gotten 24 pages of discussion from "dog bites man".
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Rainman
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I do understand the whole thing and I'm sure it will work. I'm also sure my next bike will be an XB because they fit my riding style and they are even MORE fun than my Blast.

I don't hate the company. I'm just very disappointed.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To claim you are about "Ruthless Engineering" while you are still building bikes around that hand-me-down technology from the 1950s is pretty stupid.
Just in case you didn't know, the DOHC was in use as early as 1933, so using your logic you Honda uses much older hand-me-down technology.
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