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Greenlantern
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wouldn't with Kim Jong Il or Castro or Chavez either.

When in hell have you ever been to New Jersey?
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You implied it with your assertion that only those people were posting here.
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe you guys should talk about motorcycles on this forum. You'd be amazed at the wealth of information pertinent to Buells that is available here.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Doing that too. But not on the quick board, and not in this non motorcycle thread.
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most here enjoy debating with those of differing viewpoints. Even viewpoints of which I share NO commonalities are still interesting.

There is a difference, though, in having a viewpoint that others do not share and being a jerk.

Old_man, you aren't even arguing a point any more. I can only recognize "jerky" behavior here.

What is it that you hope to accomplish? What is the end game? No one understands what you are selling here.
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Old_man
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're a jerk, no, you're a jerk, No I'm not, yes you are!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is it you hope to accomplish? It's a pretty simple question.

Thanks.
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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's called asserting oneself. Into everything.
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also consider inserting myself into everything but it turns out that doing so is illegal in 28 states and considered a sin in most major religions.

(Or did I misunderstand the issue?)
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Old_man
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing for sale, here.
What are you selling.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Old_man, what is it you hope to accomplish?

What would YOUR perfect BadWeb look like?


Why would you WANT to participate in a board full of bigots, racists, fascists, anti-semites, etc?
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Old_man
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What do you hope to accomplish?

I don't have hope for any accomplishment here.


As he said:
We are mean for the same reason a dog licks himself: BECAUSE WE CAN!

Deal with it.
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P_squared
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been called a liar by your resident right wing know-it all about a mundane post that I made, and I demonstrated that it was no lie.

If this is the thread you are referring to: Economics

You realize it was moved to Backfire, right? If you’re really that conflicted about it, nothing is stopping you from posting there.

Playing the victim after broadly labeling others as murderers & racists for the offense of not agreeing with your opinions is pretty classless in my opinion.

Misstating what someone else posted as calling you a liar, instead of comprehending that they were stating, which was, You are being a bit taunting and incendiary., and then continuing that same behavior here proves the point as valid.

So, since you've been 'wronged' you choose to act worse than my 4 yr. old daughter when she doesn't get her way?

You've succeeded in making me lose all respect for you at this point in time.

Go ride already and stop acting like a spoiled child.
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Old_man
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now who is acting the victim.
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P_squared
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let me repeat it for you again:

Go ride already and stop acting like a spoiled child.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tell you what, Old_man. I'm going to make all your dreams come true.

I am now giving you official victim status.

I am suspending your rights here on BW for one week.

During this week, I want you to consider whether this is REALLY a place you want to be. Considering BW is full of unfair, unjust, hateful, bigoted, racists for whom you have so little respect and for whom you have nothing but enmity, YOU need to decide how you will proceed here.

I have NO problem debating issues with you. I REALLY like debating issues. Others do as well. I don't believe that there has been a topic in recent history in which you have been able to civilly advocate for your point of view without personally attacking others.

When YOU get personal, others retaliate provoking you to claim that you are being unjustly persecuted.

I have defended a significant number of people here with differing views. I have defended Rocketsprink and Bill and Frankfast and others. Rarely do I agree with their positions, but they debate the issues as men. I respect them for that.

This isn't persecution for your views, this is giving you an opportunity to decide what your future here will be.

It's up to you. This is what I have to sell.

Your future.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe you guys should talk about motorcycles on this forum. You'd be amazed at the wealth of information pertinent to Buells that is available here.

You havent seen anything, yet. Wait till next season of American Idol. I'm going to suggest we devote a whole board to the topic.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Liberal thinkers, not at all.

I'll skip the rant where I blame Rush for using the word "liberal" where he means socialist/progressive. It's not really all his fault, since the Communist/neocom folk did it first, stealing the identity of a fine, proud social liberal movement to hide their evil nature. ( about 100 years ago... see Woodrow Wilson for previous unconstitutional power grabs ) You see, no one would vote for someone whose goal in life is to take from the rich, then the poor, & keep it. Hard to get elected if you are honest about your contempt for the Constitution, and Capitalist Freedoms. So, they stole the name, and the rest is history. I'm a Liberal, old school. I support the freeing of slaves, ( as did Bush ) I support womens rights. ( with all the warts. If you do not wish to be property, ( I don't ) then you must take the bad with the good. The freedom to succeed is also the freedom to fail.) Does this mean I support women in combat? Yes. It grates on my religion that calls for the warrior to protect the weak. But my religion also allows for female warriors, so there I stand. I also stand for the utter annihilation of those who would rape ANY women, prisoner or civilian. I would have ordered the total destruction of the armies & person of Milošević. Any Allied POW raped would result in massive escalation. Any Prisoners of ours, so treated, the public hanging or crucifixion of the offending U.S. troop. Does that make me Liberal, or Conservative?

Although I have argued with the keepers of this site on political matters...(Because I'm not a conservative...I'm an old school Liberal so we have differences) I seldom get ad hominem attacks on my character from the keepers of this asylum.

I also think Ann Coulter is cute. I bet she spanks.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting that you should bring up Ann Coulter. My son, who produces audio books for Simon and Schuster, did one of her books recently.
Travis is a self proclaimed liberal but had this to say about Ms. Coulter; "Outside of the sound booth she is one of the nicest people you could hope to meet. But the minute you put a microphone in front of her she sounds like she wants to fillet babies."

Travis has produced many political books for people on both sides, including one with Jimmy Carter.
The most interesting thing he said about them was that, even though he was more in agreement with the liberals, he thought the conservatives were the nicest people and the most pleasant to be around.
I asked him why he thought that was. After a long pause to think about it he said "I'll have to get back to you on that."

He will soon be doing a book with Karl Rove. I'm certainly going to quiz him about that book and the man himself.

G
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Spdkls
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

seriously, i go get some sleep and this thread jumps 2 pages on me, and it got ugly.

i had to go read the first page again because i forgot what the topic was about.

i agree that the angry people stop posting and go ride, especially for me! cause if i could ride i wouldn't be reading this right now.

I also think Ann Coulter is cute. I bet she spanks.

i bet she straps too, but i'd still hit it.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I ran for president and won Ann Coulter would be my press secretary.
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Bill0351
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I have defended a significant number of people here with differing views. I have defended Rocketsprink and Bill and Frankfast and others. Rarely do I agree with their positions, but they debate the issues as men. I respect them for that."

That was just worth repeating, and it's why this MOTORCYCLE forum is one of the only places I ever discuss politics.

The fact that most threads, even heated debates on politics get hijacked and become comedy side-shows is a reminder that MOST people here don't take the debates all that seriously in the grand scheme of things.

Bill
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One of the most important lessons I ever learned about discussing politics also applies to most everything else:

REMAIN CALM. DO NOT LET YOUR EMOTIONS OVERCOME YOU. DO NOT RESORT TO PERSONAL INSULTS. IF YOU DO, YOU LOSE.
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Greenlantern
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The fact that most threads, even heated debates on politics get hijacked and become comedy side-shows is a reminder that MOST people here don't take the debates all that seriously in the grand scheme of things.



I have not the slightest idea what you are talking about.
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

The fact that most threads, even heated debates on politics get hijacked and become comedy side-shows is a reminder that MOST people here don't take the debates all that seriously in the grand scheme of things.







quote:

I have not the slightest idea what you are talking about.




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Dbird29
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





People, please.
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Hexangler
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Back to the subject at hand:

Ensign.


See us "Libs" can be pretty mean as well. I think the answer to the topic question is:
its just human nature mixed with a dash of extremist-conservatism.
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Hexangler
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...or possibly, meanness is a product of hypocrisy.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Of what hypocrisy to you speak?
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