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Paw
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was checking out a few post and noticed some words in a couple about Japanese, Korean and China products as compared to American...I have noticed more people in here are for American products than the Asian counter parts.

I was wondering what type of vehicles everyone owns.

I own a Dodge mini van and a buell motorcycle. And hopefully in 3 to 5 years there will be a Caddy CTS parked in my garage.

I have bought 6 brand new cars in my life and everyone of them have been an American companies car.

Motorcycles I have bought 4 new 2 Jap and 2 American But for the last 8 years I have tried to buy made in USA or at least an American companies product excusively...There is no way any other country can match American quality...and if someone wants to argue that then tell me why America has the best military equipment as compared to all other countries and why America is the leader in space travel. Our government turns to American companies to make and build their equipment. And we do have the best I just wish the rest of the Americans would back more Americans companies.

So what vehicles do you own?
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We have...

07 Dodge Calibur RT
06 Dodge Dakota quad cab
06 Harley V Rod Street Rod
07 Tuffy Esox Magnum with a 60hp Mercury 4 stroke efi.
80 Arctic Cat Jag
05 Yamaha RX1

I'm proud to say that I've made at least three purchases from Wisconsin companies.

(Message edited by Buellinachinashop on June 10, 2009)
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Tq_freak
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

we have

05 Buell 12S
02 Jeep Grand Cherokee
01 HD Standard
00 Mitsabishi Montero (Wife's, I hate it)
86 GMC Pickup
81 Kawisaki 440 (Given to me by a friend)
69 Chevy Corvette.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I currently own an '08 Mitsubishi Raider.
The main reason for my purchase was the service department. They did all the work on my Eclipse and I was always very pleased. They never overcharged or tried to con me into extra work. I'm always treated like an intelligent valued customer, not just a wallet with legs.

I prefer American made products but ultimately customer service is what wins my business.

Today I ordered tires from a from a different local dealer than i used to. My old shop was cheap and did free mounting and balancing but I wasn't thrilled with them the last time I got a tire and this time they put me on hold and never picked the phone back up. That cost them my business.
Now i'm getting them from a small independent shop that hosts local bike nights and rides. They cost a little bit more but if they provide better service it will be worth it.
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Weatherman
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

04 Saturn Ion (wife's commuter car)
00Chevy Silverado 1500 (wife's tow vehicle for horse trailer)
05Dodge Magnum
97 Goldwing/DFT trike conversion
03 Goldwing
00 Buell Cyclone M2
09 Buell 1125cr
07 Suzuki dr200se dual sport
04 Honda 400 rancher 4x4 quad

Hey it's a world economy now so it is harder to tell what is built here by foreign companies and what is manufactured elsewhere and final assembled here, even by American companies. Whatever will keep Americans at work, I am in favor of it. If we have the best and most innovative products, we should be ok. Protectionism is short sighted and doesn't work anyway.
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Gunut75
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

05 Buell XB12R
06 Mitsubishi Eclipse
Both do over 125mph!
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Cowboy
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1. Harley V-Rod
2. Buell X1
3. Toyota (Avalon)
4. Toyota (Tacoma)
I no longer need a heavy duty truck so I sold the Dodge dooley

American made is great but I sure hate to see my money going to U.A.W.
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 Purple on the customer service.

I bought a 2008 Mustang GT and was willing to put up with a few "American engineering" headaches (which the GT most certainly came with) in order to support American-based manufacturing. However, dealing with the Ford dealerships (notice the plural) has been an abysmal experience.

My wife's Hyundai, on the other hand, has been relatively flawless. But more importantly, it's the Hyundai DEALERSHIP that has made me such a fan. Those guys are simply a breeze to deal with, and they seem to go out of their way to win our maintenance business. On more than one occasion, the dealership has sent someone to my wife's workplace to pick the car up for an oil change, no charge!

~SM
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2006 nissan xterra
2003 honda civic
2005 buell lightning

wont apologize for buying any of them.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

04' Isuzu Axiom
07' Mazda 6
07' Buell Firebolt


Currently looking for a 07' Dodge Charger to trade the Mazda in on. And when the Axiom is paid off I'll be selling that to purchase an 81' F-150 Stepside.


I prefer American made products but ultimately customer service is what wins my business.

I agree 100% with that statement.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine 1996 Toyota Avalon, and the Buell of course
Hers 2002 Toyota Sienna

Both built in Georgetown Ky. about 45 mins from my house. Mine was purchased from the inlaws at considerable discount, hers purchased new at not-so-considerable discount.
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Budsurf
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got my 2008 XB12X and a 1995 Jeep Cherokee with over 215,000 miles on it.
My wife has a 2008 Mazda 3 and we are currently looking for a XB9 for her.
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Stingaroo
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oldest to newest
1941 Plymouth P-11
1942 GMC 2 1/2ton CCKW
1989 Toyota Camry (grandma's old car, run it until it falls apart)
2001 Buell M2L Cyclone
2009 Toyota Yaris (for my tiny wife)

1941 Willys MB Slatgrill, 1942 Dodge WC-52, 1942 Harley Davidson WLA (My Dad's I just own alot of parts on them and slowly gain ownership with each hour of work I put into them ; )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

04 Acura TL
00 Toyota Sequoia

Until recently hasn't been an American automobile I wanted to purchase.
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Ulywife
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1994 Chevrolet Suburban (202,000 miles...going for 300,000!!)
1996 Dodge Caravan
1999 Buell M2
1999 Honda ZR50
2000 Buell Blast
2006 Buell Ulysses

Both Suburban and Van will be replaced with same type of vehicle when the time comes.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tricky one here, Depends on whether one wishes to be nationalist or European.
All the Auto manufacturers trade with each other, example my wife's Ford Focus C-Max, built in Germany, but has a Peugeot diesel made in France.
My local Peougeot/Citroen plant fit some models with Ford motors from the UK, I know, I haul them.
Other alternatives are Peugeot/Citroen models made in Czech or Spain, or Renaults made in Roumania, or Toyota's made in France or UK, or Nissans & Honda's made in UK.
Where do you draw the line?

My current fleet, in age order, youngest first.

'07 Buell XB12stt, (on '08 plate).
'06 Ford Focus C-Max tdci Ghia.
'99 Buell M2 (bent, awaiting rebuild).
'92 Opel Corsa diesel.
'68 Dodge D 100 Sweptline Pickup.

The only 2 vehicles I have ever bought new are motorcycles, & both times because dealers were moving job lots of old stock at prices approaching that of used & on models that I wanted, the TT last year, & my first bike back in '77 a Suzuki TS250M, (dealer discounting is nothing new).
I won't buy new cars as the initial depreciation is just too much, I tell people I'm doing my bit for the planet by not using up valuable resources.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

'08 Toyota Taco
'06 Buell Uly
'02 Toyota Camry
'98 Honda XR400
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Edgydrifter
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

'96 Jeep Grand Cherokee
'07 Mazda 5
'83 Yamaha XJ550 Seca
'03 Kawasaki VN800 Drifter
'08 Buell XB12XT
'08 Buell 1125R

I really need to clear a couple of these out of the stable, but I hate to part with any of them.
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Jumpinjewels
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

H3
An 1994 Caddy
1985 Chevy Scottdale p/u truck
2 Buells
My son has a SV650 and Subaru
2 Kawasaki dirt bikes (Buell needs this)
1974 Ford RV
1952 Ford tractor
1992 Ford back hoe/loader


My only concern is, now that China might be buying the Hummer, what does that do to my H3? : )
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Kmfw160
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

06 Chevy Suburban
04 XB 12S
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Current:
'07 Honda Fit (wife's)
'06 Buell Ulysses

Past:
'59 Studebaker
'70 Datsun pickup
'73 Mazda Rx3
'74 Chevy L.U.V.
'77 Chevy Cheyenne Pickup
'78 Toyota Celica (wife's)
'84 GMC Jimmy (wife's)
'90 Acura Integra (wife's)
Over 35 motorcycles
all Japan made except, 1 Penton, 1 Maico, 2 KTMs and a Buell.
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Spike
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Currently we have a 1996 Chrysler Town & Country and a 2005 Mazda3 to go along with the 2004 Firebolt.

In the last five years we've also had:

2006 Mazdaspeed6
1994 Miata (turbo)
2001 Accord
1999 Escort
1988 F150

The domestic vehicles in that list all served their purpose, but all were lower in quality than the Japanese vehicles we've owned. I'm quite fond of our Town & Country for it's posh ride and 4 captain's chairs, but I've had it towed to the dealer for a failed PCM once already and from what I've read on Chrysler forums it's not an uncommon failure. It will be replaced with a Honda Odyssey as soon as the budget allows.
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Lastbornjoker
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

04 toy tacoma
08 toy highlander
03 xb9s
07 yamaha grizzly 700
09 bass tracker pro team 175 (in red)
tacoma will be traded for a tundra as soon as wife is preggers again.we do try to buy american when we can find it but are not oposed to buy (good) forein made products but hell went shopping for a backpack to carry on the bike and still havnt found one made in usa.
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Doon
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2 x 2002 Subaru Outback Sports
1 x 2005 Buell Xb12S

Not sure what next car will be as the subarus are all paid off, don't owe us anything... but are getting a bit small with the family (IE the massive amount of junk we now have to bring with us when we travel... : ) )
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Rainman
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

03 Honda Accord, made in Ohio
04 Toyota Corolla, made in Canada
92 Volvo DL 240, made in Sweden
03 Blast, made in Wisconsin

Before that:

82 Gold Wing, made in Japan
89 1200 Sporty, made in US
87 Subaru XT, made in Japan
85 Subaru GL, made in Japan
77 Ford Mustang, made in America
73 VW Super Beetle, made in Germany
68 Beetle, made in Germany
71 Dodge Van, made in America
63 Beetle, made in Germany.
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Sanchez
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

> There is no way any other country can match American quality

I dunno about all that. Part of the problem with American products is a lack of quality as compared with foreign products. American cars always get low marks for fit and finish. Or at any rate, that's what Top Gear tells me. I've only owned Chevy and Ford, so I have no basis for comparison.

I'd say American products have character more than quality. Take my old M2, for instance. The bike was fun to ride, and it turned heads, but it broke down or sprang a new oil leak every time I turned around, and I never even got the mileage into double digits. My Ulysses has been far more reliable, but the fit and finish isn't great. I hate the way the seat doesn't line up with the airbox, for instance.

For comparison, my GSX-R has excellent lines. Everything fits together precisely. Or rather it did before I turned it into a track bike. : ) It has no soul, though. It's completely interchangeable with every other Japanese supersport. Suzuki also has none of the same community (much less corporate involvement in the community) that Buell does. I don't see any of the same enthusiasm, pride, or brand loyalty for Suzuki that I see for Buell.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK in order of age:

1979 XLH1000 (still apart in garage)
1990 Toyo Pickup
2000 Buell X1
2007 Honda Fit
2008 Buell XB12X
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Josh_
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

three Buells, one BMW SUV, one Isuzu SUV

Of the 9 motorcycles I've owned only one wasn't american. Of the thirteen 4-wheeled vehicles I've owned all but three (two BMWs and a VW) were GM products incl two purchased new.
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Mnbueller
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1979 Chevrolet Camaro
1997 Pontiac Grand Prix
1998 Chevrolet Corvette
2005 Mercury Montego
2005 Buell Lightning
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Been driving GM's most of my life. Currently a '02 Chevy Lumina mini van. The wife has a '98 Buick Century. Happy with the product, but like Buell the Dealer service departments keep trying to convince me to buy something else. Our experience with local Chevy dealers actually makes my Buell dealer look golden.

Seeing that my wife's father was a GM employee we once got a special call from a GM exec. to as us about our service experience. He listened patiently without making any excuses. He then asked where we lived so that he might suggest a dealer that could take care of us better. When I told him we were in the western burbs of Chicago he simply apologized. I appreciated his honesty.
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