| Author | Message | ||
     Gregtonn |
From a speech in Mexico City: "I continue to believe that we can respect and honor the Second Amendment right in our Constitution -- the rights of sportsmen and hunters and homeowners that want to keep their families safe -- to lawfully bear arms, while dealing with assault weapons that, as we know here in Mexico, are used to fuel violence," Obama said. Once again; The 2nd Amendment doesn't have a damn thing to do with hunting or sport shooting. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. G | ||
| Jumpinjewels |
all I need now is to get my concealed weapons permit, already did the class and got the gun. Where did this guy come from, the moon???? I pray that the good Lord doesn't take his hand off this country. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Iam still waiting for the US manufacturers names and models that are magically flooding the streets of Mexico. Maybe they are in cahoots with people polluting the ozone and causing all of this global warming. | ||
| Mortarmanmike120 |
I continue to believe that we can respect and honor the Second Amendment right in our Constitution Good grief I freaking hope so! So what happens when he know longer 'believes?' He's the POTUS... he better more then damn 'believe!' He better fking 'KNOW.' And yes, 2nd amendement has nothing to do with hunting. This thread will go to the backfire board in: 3... 2... 1... | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
They already proved that the VAST majority of weapons are NOT coming from the US. OUR weapons control policies will have virtually no impact on Mexico. Besides, they can get weapons from any other country. Criminals, who sell narcotics and are willing to kidnap, rape, kill, torture, mutilate, and dismember both Mexican AND US citizens, really don't care about some pesky little law. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
This thread will go to the backfire board in: 3... 2... 1... Incorrect. As long as this discussion remains relatively "civilized" it'll stay right here. FB | ||
| Aesquire |
The "America is supplying mexican drug gangs 90% of the weapons" is a lie. Used to suppress the Constitution. The real # is about 17%... the bulk come in ships from China. ( A Communist nation that is aggressive at exporting disruption to other countries ) This propaganda has been coming for a while, with the full cooperation of the media. What happened to the journalists who wanted to be Woodward & Bernstein? It's very clever. International treaties override U.S. law. So the Prez. can violate the Constitution and screw you out of your rights with an end run. Slick. Dead right though about American demand for Illegal drugs being the root cause. So...If they legalize drugs, the problem goes away. Not likely, as the Drug cartels bribe American Politicians to keep the trade going, & profits up. ( most famous was the Drug lord who slept in the Lincoln bedroom after a large bribe to Clinton ) | ||
| Court |
Interesting to see the neighborhood organizer spin his liberal interpretation of the United States Constitution. I always wonder if my views would be different if my Ivy League education (Obama and I attended the same school) had been paid for by an entitlement program. I think he's brilliant just not very smart. He thinks his job is to decide what's good for us, not to uphold the laws of the land. His insults to American Service Men and Woman and his continuing "I need to apologize for America" tour is a disgusting representation of the United States. We were dismissive of the French, subservient to the Saudis and now we're apologizing to the Mexicans for their drug problem. He is an embarrassment to the United States. | ||
| Fast1075 |
BRAVO Court!!!! | ||
| Chippy |
What all these politicians are overlooking is, it isn't the people that are purchasing weapons, assault or slingshot, legally that are contributing to any violence based problem. | ||
| Davegess |
So did you all miss that Obama is NOT going to try and reinstate the assualt rifle ban? Thought that would make you all happy? Seems I was wrong. | ||
| Oldog |
He is an embarrassment to the United States. he certainly is, but less so than Slick Willey, Who was the drug lord that slept in the lincoln bedroom? O ne B ig A ss M istake A america Why is any one supprised? People who took the time to investigate his retoric while campagining saw him for what he is. } | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" What free States? Actually a Militia from a whole group of States once tried to defend their sovereignty against the US Federal Government.... it didn't end well for them. | ||
| Dbird29 |
The Nuge! | ||
| Rfischer |
BTW, didja see today where another one of Obama's appointments, the "Car Czar" Rattner, is in a bit of a pickle over a nice little pay-to-play bribery scam. Why am I not surprised..... (Message edited by rfischer on April 17, 2009) | ||
| Kyrocket |
Obama could learn alot from the Mersk Alabama ship captain. Try and follow my semi-rant as my brain moves faster than my fingers (well, usually). Here we have a guy taking up for his crew and his ship, ala president, people and nation. We send in three Navy ships for a lifeboat with had to be intimidating as Hell and took care of the situation with the force necessary. What really gored me was two things: 1. Some lady (don't remember her nationality) complaining that America was all over the news worldwide and that there was no coverage of any other hostage ships. Well lady I didn't see any other nations out in the open sea trying to rescue their ships. You want coverage go help 'em! 2. The 30yo pirate stating that if any one else attacked them then they would kill the hostages. Umm, correct me if I'm wrong but he's a pirate, he attacked first. He made it sound like they were just out minding their own pirate business (like the Veggy Tales Pirates Who Don't Do Anything) and the mean U.S.A. just rolled up in three big-ass Navy ships and started picking on them. Wonder if the prez will grow some nads and say if you don't want our help then we won't help. France, you can learn German; Iraq you can just kill each other; any one that has a devastating natural disaster, deal with it. When did we become the world police and welfare states? I know it sounds hard hearted but crap I was always told to clean up your own backyard before you started talking to someone about theirs. | ||
| Greenlantern |
and now we're apologizing to the Mexicans for their drug problem. I'm still waiting for them to apologize for wiping out the Dinosaurs.When I was a kid, I wanted to grow up to be a Bronto-Crane operator like that guy with the Buffalo hat on tv, then I found out because of our southern neighbors, that dream would never come to pass.  | ||
| Spatten1 |
I love Ted! For all you non-Americans, he does speak for many of us. Dirty Harry justice is how about 1/2 of our country prefers it. | ||
| Court |
Wow . . . first thing of Ted Nugent's I've really liked. It makes. at least to me, so much sense as to be Res ipsa loquitur. Where's the need for discussion? I realize my views are tainted by having been shot three times. Decide based on your own situation if you or your family will be allowed to be a victim because a politician decides to impede your ability to defend yourself. I have no intention of robbing mini-marts but I'll never be a victim again. The Second Amendment guarantees me the right to see that happens. | ||
| Limitedx1 |
 its not a coincidence that the previous state he goverened for is the only one where you are not allowed to concealed carry. Ive said it a hundred times "why dont they go after the criminals" instead they go after the legal citizens........it doesnt make sense, oh wait yes it does, they are all a bunch of sissy's and gun grabbers! they will not get mine! im sure the assualt rifle ban will go back into effect....but it really doesnt change anything except the price of things for me and you. criminals are going it get them even if they are banned completely....its that simple - just look at canada...nuff said (Message edited by limitedx1 on April 17, 2009) | ||
| Swordsman |
Yeah, love the fact control activists want laws to stop criminals from getting guns, when the very definition of a criminal is someone who ignores the law.  ~SM | ||
| Xl1200r |
That was a good clip from Ted. The house I just bought is in a REALLY good county as far as concealed carry permits are concerned. For those of you who do not live in NY state, a pistol permit is a State-issued liscense, and aside from schools and things of that nature, you're allowed to carry it, out of sight to anyone else, anywhere you please. However, the county courts justices have taken it upon themselves to issue limited permits. For instance, in my old county, all permits are stamped "Hunting and Target", meaning you're only allowed to carry if you're on your way to or from hunting or a range, no if's and's or but's. In my current county, hell, good luck getting a pistol permit at all. But in my new county, much more lax, and an extra course is all that's needed to earn a concealed permit. I wish the State would get on top of this and stop allowing county justices change the law in accordance with their own views. THAT'S 2nd ammendment infringement. | ||
| Gregtonn |
"So did you all miss that Obama is NOT going to try and reinstate the assualt rifle ban?" Dave, No. I didn't miss that. Because it didn't happen. This is another thing I didn't miss. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824 G | ||
| Cruisin |
Gotcha beat Mark, move one state over... "Vermont has no permit requirement to legally carry a concealed weapon. As long as a resident may purchase the firearm legally under federal law, that person may legally carry the weapon, loaded or unloaded, openly or concealed, without any government oversight. Because no permit is required to carry a concealed weapon, no prior training is required for carrying a concealed weapon and no criteria are specified for who can carry their firearm concealed. The only places in which carrying is expressly prohibited are schools and state government facilities" | ||
| Xl1200r |
Cruisin - I believe New Hampshire is very similar, except it's a $15 fee every 5 years or something for the permit, but otherwise very little restrictions. I know there are other states, such as Michigan, which don't require a permit if you want to carry openly, but as soon as your jacket covers your sidearm, you need a permit. The laws are funny. | ||
| Chellem |
If you have a permit in one state, and you travel to the next state over, do you need to check your gun at the border? Or does the permit extend beyond? Just curious. In NJ, you need a permit to own a historical replica black powder rifle. Turns out. Can you just imagine? "Hold it right there, bad guy, just let me get the wadding, and the powder - HEY stop stealing my silverware! Just, wait a minute, almost loaded - damn. He got away." *sigh* ->ChelleM | ||
| Cruisin |
It depends on the state. Certain states will accept other states concealed permits, others won't. Just make sure you know the laws for the states you're traveling through and to before you go. | ||
| Loki |
Could ya imagine Terrible Ted as the POTUS. An interesting thing is occurring here in Arkansas. Recently one of the most liberal anti gun local rags. Had one of their most anti-gun editors actually publish a list. A list of every person who has a CCW permit. I wont go into the backlash, what followed or happened to him. Well he is back at it in his blog. He got the list again and is really upset. Seems in the past two months another 10,000 names were added to the roster. | ||
| Rfischer |
"ban on assault weapons" IS an assault weapon [fully automatic]? Or, LOOKS LIKE an assault weapon? What is an assault weapon? If fully automatic it is, and has been for a very long time, banned and any that are being used by criminals or drug gangs here and in Mexico didn't come from the U.S. China, Venezuela, Iran, yes - U.S., no. If it is merely styled like an assault weapon, how to differentiate from a [presumably] more benign appearing hunting rifle if it functionally is the same [it is]. And, in that case what's the point? This is all just more moronic political posturing by idiots who don't know what they are talking about, aka Eric Holder et al. | ||
| Rfischer |
Oh, and BTW, as some may know, the Director of the federal ATB testified before Congress on the proposed ban a while back. Told them unequivocally that the proposal was ill-considered, unenforceable, and probably unconstitutional. A straight shooter [pun intended] |
