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     P_squared |
The Civil War was about state choice forget the succession part. When the south lost it was the beginning of the change from state choice to central government. So by your reasoning, States should just ‘shut up & take it’? Even though there is an Amendment which explicitly states where the power lies between the State & Federal Governments? You see no ‘flaw’ in that sort of mindset? Really? The VA/ military medical system sucks for everyday use. (on deployment side it is acceptable) It is much easier and quicker to get to my civilian doctors and I though the idea was to reimburse your existing insurance company/ doctors for your military injuries. Part of the problem I have is that the the VA/mil system was not designed for dealing with reservists that have established doctors and have been going to the same practice for over 20 years. So since it works for YOU, in YOUR circumstances, it’s perfectly acceptable to enforce it upon everyone else? Let me know when you find that private insurance company willing to insure my grandfather to cover his VA expenses at his current costs. Until then, I’d appreciate it if you at least acknowledge that what is being attempted is in DIRECT contravention of what the man STATED. Where I’m from, we call that a ‘lie’. When i talk about Obama believing in science, Look at this http://climate.noaa.gov/index.jsp?pg=/education/ed u_index.jsp&edu=literacy I have. I don’t agree with it. Amazingly enough, a lot of other folks don’t agree with it either. Some of those folks who don’t agree with it are scientists. Do I believe the religion, or do I believe it’s a neat scam to further an agenda I don’t agree with? I think we all know the answer to that question. Bush would never allow science to over rule the party line of dam the environment full speed ahead. Exactly how did he ‘dam the environment’? Examples please. | ||
| Greenlantern |
Lighten up Francis.  Sounds good to me, no malice meant. You know suh, a gentleman always protects his honor now.  | ||
| Crackhead |
Bush blocked California's law mandating CO2 emission requirements. I think that counts as dam the environment and federal over state laws. "States should just ‘shut up & take it’" The federal government has been exerting control over the state and is is just a little odd that when a democrat is in the white house the republicans cry foul. I though the medical expenses would be reimbursed to the private insurance from the government. | ||
| Rfischer |
Stop already folks - his mind is made up. You're just confusing him with facts. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Bush blocked California's law mandating CO2 emission requirements. I think that counts as dam the environment and federal over state laws. Actually, it was the EPA that blocked the law. The problem with the law, like the rest of what comes out of California, is that it would require ALL auto manufacturers to sell a totally different set of models for California than anywhere else in the WORLD. It doesn't make sense to allow one state to pass a law that potentially would harm the citizens of that state OR would require the other 49 states to comply. It was a bad law out of a horribly liberal state. The federal government has been exerting control over the state and is is just a little odd that when a democrat is in the white house the republicans cry foul. Conservatives have ALWAYS pushed for state's rights over Federal control. Those "Republicans" who don't, aren't conservatives. Conversely, liberals have been pushing for greater Federal control for decades. I though the medical expenses would be reimbursed to the private insurance from the government. What the law is intended to do is force private insurance to the front of the line with regard to medical expenses. In essence, if care is sought at a VA facility AND the reservist or former (non-active) serviceman, the Federal government will seek to pass the expense of the care from the VA system and out to the private system. It would make private insurance ALWAYS be the primary payor with the VA as secondary payor even when the care is for injuries suffered in active combat. I find it odd that the President who wants to nationalize the entire medical system is choosing to push FEDERAL benefits out to the private sector. Shouldn't vets be the prime example of how good national healthcare can be? This is going to bite Obama in the ass. | ||
| P_squared |
Ft beat me to the punch on CA & EPA. The federal government has been exerting control over the state and is is just a little odd that when a democrat is in the white house the republicans cry foul. It’s not just Republicans crying foul. The 18 states are: Oregon, Alabama, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, Idaho, New Mexico, South Dakota, Virginia, Kentucky, Alaska, Indiana, Tennessee, Arkansas, Minnesota, South Carolina, Georgia, Kansas, Texas, New Hampshire, Missouri, Iowa, Montana, Michigan, Arizona, Washington & Oklahoma. Looks like a mix of ‘blue’ & ‘red’ to me. I though the medical expenses would be reimbursed to the private insurance from the government. Again, if you can find a private insurance company to insure my grandfather, with no increase to his costs, under the premise that they will be reimbursed by the government for his VA care, please let me know. If not, just admit Obama lied. Rfischer, I refuse to give up. I've had enough of being the 'silent majority' and refuse to let folks spout what I believe is biased nonsense. I decided to take a play from the Obama playbook and 'get in their face' from here on out. | ||
| Kilroy |
Let's F#&%in hope so - this guy is like Teflon Don - nobody in the mainstream seems to notice any of this BS. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
nobody in the mainstream seems to notice Odd that so many chafe when liberal bias in the media is brought up. Part of the reason why the "fairness doctrine" is such a farce. Hannity, Levin, Limbaugh, Beck, Humphries, et. al. are EDITORIALISTS and yet they are presenting truth that the NEWS outlets won't. What's "fair" about that? It is nothing more than censorship of a viewpoint liberals don't like. I also find it odd that while promoting the "fairness doctrine" to promote a greater exposure to liberal ideas that Pelosi is working to have the Justice Department overlook anti-trust rules to allow LIBERAL papers in San Francisco to merge to survive. What about more CONSERVATIVE papers whose petitions for merger have been denied because it would cause "an undue and potentially harmful concentration of media stifling opposing viewpoints"? When will MSNBC be required to comply with the "fairness doctrine"? CNN? NPR? NY Times? 2008, the year independent press died. | ||
| P_squared |
"They can have my blogs when they pry them from my cold, dead keyboard." | ||
| Court |
How ya'll feel about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac folks getting $611,000 bonuses? I'm curious, among the 15,000 folks here on Badweb that I am also told represent a "cross section", how many folks will get bonuses over $500,000 this year? Extra credit if you are a government employee. How do you feel about the government writing a tax law "targeted" at 73 people? Why, when he knew about the bonuses, all the detailed amounts, how many and so forth, did Obama approve the additional $30,000,000,000 in "bail out" to AIG? If you were this multi-millionaire guy the feds brought from All-State to fix AIG and you took a tongue lashing from Barney Frank like he did today, what would you do? I'd have tossed my office keys on the congressional table, told them all the screw themselves, got on my jet and gone home. Who needs this? | ||
| Madduck |
Court, If I'm not mistaken, he is also working at this AIG gig for a salary of $1.00 per year. Decent honest guy being lectured by crooks, he is far more of a patriot than I would be. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
Can they pass a retro tax law for 73 people with out affecting everybody else in there catagory? And more importantly if they can change tqaxes for 73 why not for one person? Maybe me, maybe you. It's all BS. They (the gov) new and aproved the bonus, now we (the people) get all bent and the gov is trying to back track and act outraged. Whats outrages to me is how fake and 2 faced OUR gov is! Don't get ue wrong I love being an American, I love America, but damn! | ||
| Greenlantern |
I'd have tossed my office keys on the congressional table, told them all the screw themselves, got on my Buell American Motorcycle and gone home. There ya go, all fixed! I'm curious, among the 15,000 folks here on Badweb that I am also told represent a "cross section", how many folks will get bonuses over $500,000 this year? Extra credit if you are a government employee. 2 and I know where they live. How do you feel about the government writing a tax law "targeted" at 73 people? It will probably cost more to write the law than the money recouped. Why, when he knew about the bonuses, all the detailed amounts, how many and so forth, did Obama approve the additional $30,000,000,000 in "bail out" to AIG? 2 words, dumb arse. If you were this multi-millionaire guy the feds brought from All-State to fix AIG and you took a tongue lashing from Barney Frank like he did today, what would you do? Tell them to kiss my american/ half black / scotch/irish arse, then put on a grass skirt and tequila dance on the floor to hanson's mmmbop. Who needs this? Apparently our genius elected officials. Oh well I will always have my beer. ( probably just jinxed that too.) | ||
| P_squared |
If you were this multi-millionaire guy the feds brought from All-State to fix AIG and you took a tongue lashing from Barney Frank like he did today, what would you do? Tell them to take their false indignation & hypocrisy and shove it where the sun don't shine, and then let them know I'd be posting all politically related info directly to the WWW for the public to read & decide for themselves who to be 'outraged' with. Ending of course with a 'Take this job & shove it!' exclamation. | ||
| Greenlantern |
NEW YORK (AP) -- AIG is putting its Manhattan headquarters and a nearby office building on the sales block. AIG spokesman Mark Herr said Wednesday the company is evaluating the sale of 70 Pine Street and 72 Wall Street as part of its efforts to boost operations. The potential sale, first reported by The New York Post, comes at a difficult time for the insurance conglomerate and in the New York real estate market. Prices for office buildings are falling in the wake of tight credit and downsizing in the financial industry. AIG has outraged lawmakers after it doled out $165 million in employee bonuses over the weekend. The company has received $170 billion in government bailout money. The scary part of that is while that is probably the most expensive commercial real estate area in the country (down to a 20 block area) it is just drops in the bucket now....................sigh* | ||
| Court |
>>>>And more importantly if they can change taxes for 73 why not for one person? Oh .. so you heard my main man Al Sharpton too? . . . you KNOW he's got to be concerned.  See what happens when you turn the nut too tight? The feds should be embarrassed. It' quite obvious that few have ever started and run a business. You couldn't attract talent to AIG (where BILLIONS of your and my money was just invested as WE became 80% owners) for love or money. Try fining Detroit automakers who get caught turning in overtime and see how easy it becomes to recruit. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
If this thread isn't Mojo, I don't know what is. Our CFO came in, shook my hand and gave me a letter thanking me for last year and there was also a check for 1500.00. EDrinks on me! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
How ya'll feel about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac folks getting $611,000 bonuses? That's $611,000 each. You watch, though. They will be absolved of all responsibility. AIG will be blamed for being greedy and unscrupulous and Freddie and Fannie will be held up as victims of AIG's corruption. Sickening. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
F em, I am pulling out of the tax system. I am getting all my money back in my pocket before they fleece it, selling the house, not owning property in my name, and refusing to contribute to this lunacy on good standing as a conscientous objector. If they want to misspend it, misappropriate it, waste it, squander it, ear mark it, throw it to another bail out, they wont get it from me. Hell they cant get their cabinet appointees to pay tax, why the F should I ? | ||
| Ducxl |
How do you feel about the government writing a tax law "targeted" at 73 people? WE,the citizens of the United States of America are NOW majority shareholders of AIG..Yes? THose lousy 73 people steered AIG to this failure.WE should TAKE OUR money(Bonuses) BACK! I know,of course our senate blew it. I loved the senator today,grilling the AIG CEO and he said: The AIG executives are like the crew and Captain of the TITANIC reserving the life boats for themselves and forsaking the passengers. I just hope the future Socialist rescue packages are now more thought out.THese guys' are rewarded for failure.I live precariously close to homelessness NOW  | ||
| Spatten1 |
F em, I am pulling out of the tax system. I am getting all my money back in my pocket before they fleece it, selling the house, not owning property in my name, and refusing to contribute to this lunacy on good standing as a conscientous objector. If they want to misspend it, misappropriate it, waste it, squander it, ear mark it, throw it to another bail out, they wont get it from me. Hell they cant get their cabinet appointees to pay tax, why the F should I ? That was my rationalle dropping my AMA membership. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Heres a pic of one of their execs Gerry Pasciucco:  | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
The government doing anything with AIG is a conflict of interest especially when our tax dollars are involved: http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/03/before-the -fall-aig-payouts-we.html | ||
| Court |
Explain to me the purpose of posting the photo, please? | ||
| Ducxl |
Is there any irony in the pic on the crooks tee-shirt? | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I found the che guevara shirt and blazer funny. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I really cant say if they are crooks but there definitely seems to be some shady things going on. I think the spotlight should be on lawmakers though and not so much AIG. | ||
| Madduck |
In that level of finance, I see the "short sellers" and the sharks ripping the/our capital out of AIG and sticking the US taxpayer with one hell of a bill. Worst case would be in tens of Trillions. When something this big is dying, every predator out there will want a piece of it, while its fresh. Hopefully the Obama will listen to McCain and dump this turkey now. | ||
| Rubberdown |
The whole concept of "too big to fail" is a fallacy. Let the terminally ill die. Life will go on. This life support behavior only breeds further dependency by the entity that has already demonstrated an inability to care for itself. | ||
| Reindog |
Dinosaurs were the "too big to fail" entities of their time. |
