| Author | Message | ||
     Lovedabueller |
Latly i have been riding with some sport bikes. And i want to me able to have more top end. I WILL NOT BUY A 6 speed. i am looking at getting a 29tooth front sprocket. my question is there an easy way to drop the rpms on a 2000 m2. cause at like 100-110 its humming. i dont want to hurt the motor.....and like the title says... | ||
| Damnut |
buy a different bike, problem solved.  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
You can make the bike do anything you want it to. With enough money. | ||
| Slaughter |
You are hanging with the wrong crowd and on the wrong bike. Unfortunately, this "keeping up with my buddies" is an O...L.....D...... discussion here. Besides, you have to gear the bike DOWN unless acceleration means nothing. Gearing it UP will make it seem like you're dying of old age while waiting to get up to speed. It just won't pull up at the top end like you're looking for. Different machine. The Buell NEVER had the intention of any top end speed as compared to typical sportbikes. | ||
| Barker |
6 speed, I'm guessing you mean overdrive instead of a close ratio 6, will not help much unless you have the HP to push it. "With enough money." Power is cheap, making it last is expensive. (Message edited by barker on February 05, 2009) | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>Power is cheap, making it last is expensive. << Consider that stolen. My experience is that it is more expensive than buying the correct motorcycle in the first place. Bolted 30 horses on a Trophy 1200:  | ||
| Panhead_dan |
ouch | ||
| 86129squids |
Time/Speeeed?distance- I was just thinking- what would it be like to put an XB12 primary on my XB9SX, buy a taller windscreen, some appendage carriers, and do some distance? | ||
| Bartimus |
Lesson learned. Damnut has the right idea. Buells own the corners, you want to go fast with your buddies on the straights, buy a different bike. (or just coax your buddies to a mountain road and spank them) Then THEY will want what YOUR riding!!! | ||
| Preybird1 |
What 145 ish isn't enough, I would like to know here you guys are going that fast!! Well i dont know about you but i can hit a 15 mph corner at 60 mph and a 30 mph corner freeway on ramp at 90 mph show me a crotch rocket that will do that!! Also i find that the faster i went on my 4 cylinder jab bike the harder it was to turn at a fast rate, A little to gyroscopic for my taste(and i didnt realize this untill i bought a buell)! I have noticed that i can carve the corners at the same rate if i am going 15 mph or 120 mph on the buell no difference in flick ability, Where the jap bike became sluggish the buell is razor sharp!! | ||
| Lovedabueller |
well. not to get my question twisted but. I'm not looking to do 170. and i can take the corner at that good speed. i was simply wondering like how much will a 29t. drop the rpm's and will running a bike at 5500rpms all day will hurt the bike in the long run. cause after last sunday on some good high speed texas back roads between killeen and ft worth. i seem to have oil seepage from the cam cover. the rear push rod tube bases. and the starter gasket. is this normal to blow gaskets at high rpms. ... will this happen a lot. | ||
| Andrejs2112 |
"What 145 ish isn't enough" 145 on a stock Buell? Really? | ||
| Scotty_j |
145? On open highway? Did you have a case of explosive diarrhea and had to get to a toilet RIGHT AWAY!!!? | ||
| Lovedabueller |
"What 145 ish isn't enough" 145 on a stock Buell? Really? YES. i have pegged out the speedo...and then some on my M2. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I'd say your speedo, like most Buell speedos was a little optimistic.  | ||
| Mikef5000 |
My M2 tops out about 130-135. The problem with adjusting the gearing on the M2 is the belt drive. With no other belts available, you're going to have to find a sprocket that will still be within adjusting range on your swingarm (doubt it) or you're going to have to convert to chain (maybe you've already done this?). The Buell's don't have near the top end as the jap bikes, so simply changing the gearing and expecting it to go faster may be a bit optimistic. These bikes are not made for top end. Take pride in that! I know I do! These bikes have power when you want it on the street, no need to wait for high RPMs, like the jap bikes. Oil seepage will be increased if you're out there topping it out all the time (or cruising at 100+). It's just not what these bikes are made for. Sorry. | ||
| Panhead_dan |
Yes, if you run the piss out of your Buell often, it will complain about it in the form of maybe leaks, loosening fasteners or some other failure. These are not race bikes. These are street bikes built for real world conditions on the street. That is precisely the reason I ride a Buell. Real world riding. You will find that as set up from the factory, the gearing is pretty close to optimum. That is to say- if you gear it taller, it will not have the power to pull top gear to redline. I could hit the rev limiter in top gear on my XB9S but not in a headwind or uphill. This ,to me, is proper gearing. The Uly (and other XB12 models I assume) are geared higher and will not. If you gear it higher without any other mods, it will be slower on the top end. If you mod it for more power it would be faster but look at the tranny cluster in the pic Dave posted above. My advice to you is to either settle down and explore what a finely tuned Buell will do in the real world of street riding or get yourself a ninja or superwhizzer and we'll see you in the next world. | ||
| Xb9er |
there is no need to go 145+ on the highway, and besides your riding a buell why are you on the highway???? if you want to impress your buddies show them how fast you can carve up the corners. | ||
| Scotty_j |
Compared to GPS, my Uly runs about 5% slower than the speedo indicates. | ||
| Arcticktm |
Original post wasn't asking to do 145. He wanted to lower the RPM at around 100-110. I agree with others, that the trade off in going to higher gearing sucks, but it's all a question of priorities. Of course, I am one of those that switched my Uly to XB9 gearing, cause I am much more into acceleration and being able to handle slower "adventure" speeds without slipping the clutch. I love it. Then again, there are no straight roads around here. I have no idea what my bike's top speed is right now. If you really want to know, you can do the ratio match from your stock setup to the new sprocket size. Of course, you still need a belt that would fit. Someone posted a chart that showed the impact of the change I made, but I have not seen one for anyone going to higher gearing. | ||
| Happy1 |
go buy a jap bike......  | ||
| Lovedabueller |
wow. i went from asking about oil seepage and gearing/ RPM DROP to getting bashed for wanting to do above 145. AND IM NOT ON THE HIGHWAY. READ THE POST. im on back country roads that have curves. and straights. and on the straights i feel like my engine is going to explode. IT WAS AN RPM DROP POST/QUESTION nothing more.  | ||
| Happy1 |
point being do you really need to go 110 freakin mph...fyi you're not the only person out on those roads. your not only putting you're self at risk but others around you | ||
| Bigblock |
Ya, real easy, the european tubers had higher gearing, with a larger front sprocket, and smaller rear. They are pretty tall, though. You might want to go either euro front sprocket, or rear, and it will split the diff between american standard gearing and euro gearing, probably giving you what you want. Don't listen to these guys, you can darn well set your bike up how you want to, the parts are available. I, however, don't remember the tooth counts on the American or Euro bikes, you'll have to look that up and figure what is best for you. It's probably in the archives here under the old school Buell section. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/16312.html?1035897241 Somewhere in here is a simple chart that shows the combo's for Euro & U.S. spec pulleys. I have often considered the 6 speed just to have no compromises in gearing. I mean I want my cake & eat it too. Gearing up for highway bombing, ( in my case a desire to do a steady 80+ for a couple of hours....on closed tracks & leeegal, not rt90 no sir, not me ) cuts the acceleration off the line. That may be a good compromise for you, if you don't go too radical. | ||
| Lovedabueller |
Happy. go be someone elses father and save the lectures for someone who wants one. bigblock and aesquire. thanks for the back. and if you actually think about it.....110 is not that fast. people do 90 in there cars on the freeway. whats 20, 30 mph more? | ||
| Slaughter |
Seriously, the British guys on http://www.UKBEG.com will probably trade you straight across. Government regulations force them into taller gears and they are frustrated by the lack of acceleration. I bet within a week of posting, you'll have somebody on their website offer you to do a trade. Happens pretty often. | ||
| Brumbear |
110 on a bike is a fair clip on a slab and a spririted afternoon of fun in the backroads I'm no daredevil but for crying out loud happy we are who we are man this is Buell know what I measn. Lovedabueller I am sure you can get a european gearing set up call any buell dealer in Germany and I am pretty sure you can get someone who can speak English quite well. | ||
| Preybird1 |
The 6 speed is only good if you have more engine work done. God dam spider jumped on the gf and she scared the crap outtta me. Sorry. I rode a 6 speed with about 128 rwhp and it was a little hairy but that motor screaming in 6th was wild and Scary!! | ||
| Panhead_dan |
Lovedabueller, In my opinion, you are either missing the point completely or I am. It seems to me that you are here simply to start SHIT. If you want to come and go for a ride was me some time I will make it very clear what me and the others are trying to explain to you. Bring your super whizzer. I will buy the beer. Dan |
