| Author | Message | ||
     Buellinator |
but how is a "gun thread" any more acceptable than a "ladies on...." thread? I respect your opinions as moderators and I truly appreciate the work you do in keeping this board an enjoyable place to visit I just don't understand how one is more tolerable than the other. The bottom line of course, is that what you say goes. (which is fine with me. Not that you need my approval) I just thought I'd ask. | ||
| Spiderman |
Hmmm If you kid looks over your shoulder and glances at Text that he/she really can't read from a distance VS a chick spread eagle with her poonaner showing.... I think that is what the mods are looking at... | ||
| Buellinator |
Understood. We need to keep this a "G rated" place. "PG" maybe even. But I'd rather my kid was looking at pics of pretty ladies (not spread eagled) on motorcycles than looking at or reading about guns. | ||
| Eboos |
      (Message edited by eboos on December 23, 2008) | ||
| Jaimec |
It's the same twisted logic wherein the Southland Stores (7-11) decided to pull "Playboy" from their magazine racks, but continued to sell "Soldier of Fortune." It really isn't hard to forget this country was founded by PURITANS... Or as Jack Nicholson once put it in an interview: "If I cut off a tit, I get a PG rating. If I suck on it, I get an X." | ||
| Eboos |
Acceptability of violence vs. sex has been a long standing debate. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
But I'd rather my kid was looking at pics of pretty ladies (not spread eagled) on motorcycles than looking at or reading about guns. are guns bad? | ||
| Froggy |
I never even thought about it till this thread came up, I have no issue with guns at all. | ||
| Ulywife |
But I'd rather my kid was looking at pics of pretty ladies (not spread eagled) on motorcycles than looking at or reading about guns. The problem with the pretty ladies thread is it always managed to go Smutville pretty quickly. As for the gun thread, if it becomes inappropriate, then it too will be moved to the Backfire Board. Blake has been very lenient about some of the recent threads. The nice thing about BadWeB is that if you're not interested in viewing a certain type of thread, you simply don't have to click on it. To me it's kinda like bike rallies. I have a 14 year old daughter that loves to ride and hang out with all of the Buelligans she's met over the years. We took 3 teenage girls to March Badness last year. I knew that there would be drinking and fun to be had, but it's not like taking her to Bike Week in FL or MB where there's T&A everywhere you look. Both Bike Rallies, but totally different environments. Maybe it's just the Mom in me, but it's not always easy being a custodian here. You sometimes have to set your own views aside and leave something you consider inappropriate. I'm all for fun, but moderation is the key. This site is supposed to be family and work safe. I'd like to see it stay that way. | ||
| Buellinator |
are guns bad? Not trying to start a debate. I understand that gun ownership is one of the rights provided for in your constitution and a big part of American culture. I'm just saying that if given the choice, I'd choose girls on bikes over guns any day of the week. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Woah, woah, woah. The moderator "battle cry" has long been "family and work safe". This site is supposed to be family and work safe. I'd like to see it stay that way. I have no problems with guns. I also have no problems with half-naked women. But I'll be damned if I want my boss catching me looking at pictures of either. If you kid looks over your shoulder and glances at Text that he/she really can't read from a distance VS a chick spread eagle with her poonaner showing.... The problem is there are pictures of guns on the gun thread. I'm not about to step (or stomp) on anyone's toes, and I rarely take issue with how things are run here, but the sometimes blatent irregularity of logic in these forums can be dizzying at times. are guns bad? Some would say yes, others would say no, but in either case, they are not workplace safe. Please assure me you aren't that naive. (Message edited by xl1200r on December 23, 2008) | ||
| Rubberdown |
I don't hide anything from my kids. Anything goes and we just discuss it, matter of fact. No problems so far, thankfully. Boy 15. girl 14. | ||
| Ratbuell |
if you're not interested in viewing a certain type of thread, you simply don't have to click on it. Amen. Echoes of George Carlin and his "two knobs" bit - "one changes the station, and one <gasp> turns it off!!" I do appreciate the moderators and all the work they do keeping Badweb what it is for all of us. It's tough enough getting a large group of e-people to fall in line, much less a large group of Buellers. We all know they're there; we all know the rules; guns or chicks, let's just play the game the way it's supposed to be played. It is *their* field, after all, they're just nice enough to let us use it  And for the record, I have nothing against either guns or chicks. Given my track record, though, chicks *with* guns make me nervous  | ||
| Hexangler |
I wish I had a job or children to worry about. | ||
| Hammer71 |
if you're not interested in viewing a certain type of thread, you simply don't have to click on it But when you do, don't bitch and moan about it. | ||
| Eboos |
+1 NWS threads shouldn't be a problem if you aren't viewing them at work, or anywhere you wouldn't want other people seeing them. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
It's the way BLAKE wants it to be. Need there be any more discussion about it? This is the third thread that has been started on the subject. The chick thread has been moved to the basement. You can still view it. You can still post to it. Nothing has changed other than we have moved the thread out of the living room and into the basement. Haven't we had entirely enough debate on the subject. It ain't gonna change anything. | ||
| Spiderman |
The problem is there are pictures of guns on the gun thread. This is why I am not a moderator, too many people being nit picky and bitchey about someone elses rules... As much as I hate to say this, This is Blake's house. His rules. Just deal with it! | ||
| Crackhead |
I guess you don't work or are in the military. gun pictures are encouraged. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
If I were a moderator, I'd encourage disagreement with me. Hell, I'd start the "Argue with Me the Mod" thread. | ||
| Xl1200r |
if you're not interested in viewing a certain type of thread, you simply don't have to click on it I'm all for this, but those in charge don't think that fits what they want this place to be, and they are entirely in their right to think so. This is why I am not a moderator, too many people being nit picky and bitchey about someone elses rules... As much as I hate to say this, This is Blake's house. His rules. Just deal with it! Like I said, I'm not personally offended by either subject. I'm a gun owner, and I've taken NSFW pictures of my girlfreind. I have the sense not to open either while at work - the self-moderation method works fine for me (though I know it doesn't for all). I'm not trying to be nit picky, but when there's a big steaming pile of dog crap in the corner, I'm going to say something about it. All I'm saying is the moderator response to the Chicks thread was that it wasn't family safe, wasn't work safe, and there were plenty of other place on the 'net where one could find the same material. This is a Buell forum, not a smut house. Well, playing devil's advocate, this is a buell forum, and there are plenty of other places where one could find pictures and discussion about firearms. | ||
| Poppinsexz |
This is really weird ,A picture of a gun is in the same league as the picture of half naked women(On or off the bike). I could understand if it were pics of someone getting blown away, but an inanimate object. I guess just the picture of a gun could terrify some so bad that their life could be scarred forever.  | ||
| Xl1200r |
I think of a lot of inanimate objects that would offend people. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
So do Clowns. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
ok, so how about we create a comprehensive rule book of exactly what can and cannot be discussed on BadWeB. i nominate you to create said rules. it'll take you awhile, coming up with guidelines that EVERYBODY agrees on, but i know you can do it. please let us know when you're done. in the meantime, can the rest of us please enjoy this board for what it is, warts, zits, pimples and all? this place ain't perfect, nor are the moderators. we try to strike a balance, but the exact balance point will always be different for each participant here. we're about to celebrate our 11th birthday, which is an amazing run in this biz. we MUST be doing something right. right? Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all. Ferris | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"I've taken NSFW pictures of my girlfreind." Lies. Until proof can be visually approved. | ||
| Court |
>>>Haven't we had entirely enough debate on the subject. We have. This very discussion underscores the import of having moderators and the weakness that befalls such venues where the "will if the masses" rules. The internet, like motorcycles, invites the unwise and those unable to moderate their own behavior to act in a way that violates the good of the group. I'm all for "spirited" riding of motorcycles on the road, but I have my limits. Put a group of sport bike riders together and someone nearly always has to test the limits. Tally up the nasty accidents/fatals at B.R.A.G. events and see if you can prove me wrong. Absent some sort of moderation the picture thread has a propensity to wander the same direction until it leaves the road and hits a tree. The "you can find it on the internet" is a foolish argument. You can find a myriad of things on the internet that you will not find here. Badweb, and I am not a moderator and am speaking my own mind only, was never envisioned to be "one stop shopping" for any and everything you can find on the internet. Badweb grew out of a small group of us with a common passion who grew weary of a "reply to all" method of sharing our passion. Badweb aspires to be the best source of exchanging information by, about and for Buell, Buells and Buell owners. To that end it has excelled. Anytime a group of folks, driven by a common passion, congregate it will almost immediately become apparent that folks, with passion fueled life's, seldom have but one passion. I am still amazed, having met nearly 4,000 Buell owners in my 20+ years, how many share a passion not only for Buells, but guitars, airplanes, cars and guns. Erik Buell is among this number having a landing strip on the farm, a collection of old cars and being an avid hand-gunner. Like your body, Badweb relies on moderation for it's health. Read the story of the poor sap who tried to live entirely on a diet of McDonald's offerings (did you know their chicken sandwich and the Caesar salad are the two most unhealthy things they sell?) and you'll get the drift. Badweb has assembled a diverse group of custodian/moderators. Part of their appeal is their diversity and their skill in acting in the interest of the group vice their individual interests. I've gotten crossways with them more often than most but I always respect their judgement. I, for one, spend not only a lot of time posting here but trolling here for folks with Buell problems. Perhaps we should have everyone around the world that I have spoken to on the phone, who's gotten parts overnighted or help raise their hands. I enjoy doing this and have since they day I quickly helped a friend get a "diaper pin" (first Buell product improvement ever) in 1990. The downside is that I access Badweb from work and at the school I both attend and teach a math class at. My job is with one of the top publicly held corps in America with a Harley-Davidson like (zero tolerance) HR department. One click, even accidental, can be hazardous to an unbelievably good job. . . I can't risk that drawn by "you have to see this . . . " Columbia University on the other hand is just the opposite. The home of the Manhattan Project has a premier IT system and total access without logging in . . . you can, presumably in the interest of free research, log on to about anything and access any academic library in the world. Nonetheless, I have my own standards when at school. From the day my Dad, also a construction worker, took me to work with him and cautioned "you're going to hear words out here that we don't take home" I began to learn the "right time and place" lessons. Badweb should benefit from our collective lessons learned, not be the source of them. The threads that the moderators deem are moved to the backfire board. Anyone who is logged in can see them just as easily rendering most the silly "you're impeding my first amendment rights" pleas moot. In addition, citing my personal interest in Badweb's long term health, I like that folks visiting Badweb for the first time are treated to even "kinda okay" stuff. I want us to have our best stuff on display in our cyber windows. I'm no prude but I have, over the years, learned the time and place lesson. I have two sons, 27 and 29, and both there were raised in a "we can talk about anything" environment and somehow they, even talking about some wild stuff, have grown into responsible adults who fully comprehend the "right time and place" concept. I'm very proud of them and want to be just as proud to have Badweb on my computer no matter where I am. Court | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
You said poonaner.... lol | ||
| Spiderman |
ohhh yeah hehehehehehehe | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Some would say yes, others would say no, but in either case, they are not workplace safe. Please assure me you aren't that naive. please assure me that you aren't that rude. i've been here since BadWeB was me and Blake and five other guys on an e-mail list. now you want to beat me up over what is and isn't appropriate to post here. frikkin' amazing. have you got nothing better to do than nitpick this place to death? and what the hell is ANYBODY doing logging onto BadWeB at work. i've been in management at several times in my career, and you would NOT have been surfing BadWeB on my time, pal. don't you dare insult my intelligence, or anybody else's who helps manage this site. we do the best we can, without trying to be all Nazi about it. as such, we let a lot of stuff slide that maybe you or someone else might take offense to. the easiest thing to do would be to have NO rules. it'd sure make the moderating thing easier. and this place would be a smut-infested, filth-infested, trash-talking infested POS BBS in about a week. dude, you've fired me up. i can't even begin to imagine me going over to ADVriders, or any other m/c site for that matter, and taking the management to task for how they run the place. there's about six or seven of us who actively oversee this site. we're human, just like you and everyone else, working here for nothing other than the love of motorcycles, the passion for Buells and the people who ride them, and for the enjoyment of being a small part of something so cool. if you find the policies here so heinous, there are a million other places you could screw around at while you're at work. FB |
