| Author | Message | ||
     Slaughter |
Being among masculine, manly and horny men apparently has a lot of appeal to many who post here on Badweb - not that that's a BAD thing. Regarding guns, some of us actually SHOOT, some of us fantasize about shooting and some of us just carress our guns. It's kinda Freudian, don't you think? | ||
| Spatten1 |
This is idiotic. The supreme court had to decide the guidelines on what is pornographic and what is offensive. Nude pictures displayed in public are controversial and are not a right. Guns are a right, and not an issue for most Americans. If you are from part of the country or a group that feels differently, get over it. It is your personal issue and you need to leave the rest of us alone, until the constitution changes. Move to Europe if you are so offended by guns that you don't want them discussed on an American website about American motorcycles. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Ferris, no need to get defensive over this. I'm not going to create any rules because I don't really care that much. As I said before, neither thread offends me, and I have the sense not to open either at work. I couldn't care less if either exists or not, and it makes no difference to me where they reside on this board. I'm merely trying to play devil's advocate on the subject, pointing out that a picture of a gun can be just as offensive, unsafe for work, and unsafe for the family as a photo of a woman. I know I don't have the final say in that, and I'm okay with that. This isn't my house, not my rules. Anyways, there already is a rule book. "Safe for family, safe for work". The moderators preach it, and I'm nearly certain I've read it in the code of conduct more than once. It's a good rule. I work for a very large company with offices all over the place, and the cultures between offices is vastly different. I work near Albany, NY - I have to dress up for work every day, and be mindful of what I have on my computer screen or on my desk - usually I do a pretty good job. My boss is less than 3 hours away near Scranton, PA and has gun catalogue sitting on his desk out in the open. He also wears boots, jeans and mildly dressy shirt to the office every day. It's the norm there, and is acceptable. I would get written up for less at my office. In any event, I guess I'm mostly just a little confused why the original poster doesn't have an answer as to why the gun thread is allowed to live on "in the living room", while the ladies thread was moved to the "basement". Of course, at the end of the day, the answer could just be "because I said so", and that's the way it falls. I know you don't have any issues with guns - I don't either - but walk into an elementary school with a smut magazine in one hand and shotgun in the other, and it doesn't take a very vivid imagination to figure out which will attract more attention. I think you guys do a really great job here - you can think I'm patronizing you if you'd like, but it's the truth. This is one of the best run forums I've been on, with the most useful advice, and the most civil population. I belong to quite a few for comparison for everything from motorcycles, drums, kitplanes, cars and firearms. This one is the best in my eyes. I'm going to withdraw from this thread now - the issue has been discussed over and over, decisions have already been made, and I'm pushing buttons that don't need pushing. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
poonaner!! poonaner!! poonaner!! poonaner!! poonaner!! poonaner to the poonaner power!! x 2 I ride a Buell... and I like it.... poonaner  | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Ferris, no need to get defensive over this. to which i say bullshit, i've got every right to be defensive. guns aren't pornographic, and we have the legal right to keep and bear them. so please explain to me how someone can question the "morality" of discussing guns or *gasp* posting pix of guns. please explain to me how it would harm your child to see a photograph of a gun. thx for the compliments on how we manage this place. it sure stings when someone takes us to task on our policies, especially someone who hasn't been here that long. our "rules" are purposely loose and easy-going, and it has worked very well over the years. sorry for my venom, but dammit it just gets old defending this place from self-righteous critics. FB | ||
| Buellgrrrl |
You guys are sometimes your own worst enemy... I'm doing my best to "corrupt" the next generation in my family with my love of bikes. I give my nephews and nieces motorcycle brochures, the DVDs Buell used to give out, and frequent sidecar rides. I'd love to bring then to BadWeb, but one look at the smut, profanity, and general disrespect by their mom would undo all my evangelism. This is about raising the next generation of riders to keep our beloved Buell and motorcycling alive. If you want to kill motorcycling in a generation, just keep dumping your porn, hate, and bigotry on this site and the rest of the motorcycle sites. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The biggest consideration is that we, as moderators, work to make BW a place where the best of the best of the informed in the Buell community come to participate. We relish in the occasional "anony" posts with fantastic tid bits of knowledge. The more common this place becomes, the less likely those contributions are to be made and BW is less as a result. If you know someone special is coming to town, you spruce up the house and wear your better clothes. We never know who might be visiting our little corner of the internet. As a result, we work to keep this place spruced up all the time. It isn't an easy balance. Any degree of "moderation" we do means limiting what is posted here, and that effort will result in people not being able to post or being able to see everything that everyone wants. This is the price. The reward is hopefully a better, richer BW. Compared to the other numerous boards I frequent, BW is always the best and central "home". | ||
| Mikethebike72 |
" i've been in management at several times in my career, and you would NOT have been surfing BadWeB on my time, pal." That is why I convinced management to become a sponsor, LOL. "I had to check badweb, someone may need something." | ||
| Dbird29 |
Can we get a STFU smiley? | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
We never know who might be visiting our little corner of the internet Very true! I was lucky enough to go to the Dealer portion of the 1125R Inside Pass track day.... BadWeb was part of the discussion and the Dealers were told it was a good source for Buell info..... poonaner | ||
| Dbird29 |
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| Cityxslicker |
pictures of guns ARE offensive and violent. Just ask the Fifth grader from Washington that got 3 days detention for DRAWING a gun in art class. And a visit from CPS to the home to boot. I am so flippin sick of thin skinned whiney namby pampy weak sucks that think the mere picture of a gun insites violence. This the same group of people that sponsored the 'toy gun' collections from kids to give them McDonald gift certificates. I was riding at age 5, shooting at age 6, drinking by 7; all in moderation and under control. None of which has been the death of me or the cause of the collapse of society as we know it. And as for pornography... the inmates in washington state are ALLOWED pornography because to restrict it is (according to the state) an infringement on their First Amendment rights. This country is messed up on so many damn levels. | ||
| Jumpinjewels |
Coming from the female perspective, thank you moderators. I really enjoy this site and reading what you all have to say but...If you want to look at smut go buy a magazine and view it at home in your own privacy. Sorry, had to vent. | ||
| Damnut |
You guys are sometimes your own worst enemy... LOL isn't that the pot calling the kettle black................. | ||
| Rubberdown |
Just make it simple and rule that only motorcycle and riding discussions allowed are on this site; maybe only Buell discussions allowed. | ||
| Damnut |
Oh and I am not a gun owner, never will be. This country's obsession with guns is sickening. The whole "Right to Bear Arms" BS was good in 1776 but, IN MY OPINION, doesn't have any merit in this day and age. IN MY OPINION, those who have any more than traffic violations on their record should not be allowed own guns. Once again, THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. and yes I have held and shot plenty of guns in my life. | ||
| Babired |
I tell my students about Bad Web when I teach! This board is the coolest way to introduce Buells to new riders. I think it's tough being a custodian you can have a good time on a board then somebody screws up and then you have to enforce and clean up. My helmet is off to you all! K | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Just make it simple and rule that only motorcycle and riding discussions allowed are on this site; maybe only Buell discussions allowed. Yeah, but it's the discussions of other interests here that make BW a richer, more rewarding place. NONE of us are 100% motorcycles. We have families and other interests. We share stories of intense happiness at the success of our children and loved ones, and we share the deepest extents of sadness at the death of cherished friends and loved ones. We all share in the experience. Restricting the discussion to ONLY motorcycles transforms a vibrant community into a one dimensional data sheet and is overkill. We, as custodians, would rather do the yeoman's work of pruning those posts that aren't conducive to BW in order to cultivate a living, thriving BW community. Believe it or not, we have VERY lively debates about what constitutes proper behavior here. We, as custodians, aren't homogeneous in our views, but we try to play devil's advocate on behalf of the entire BW community. You each have a voice among the custodians. In the end, though, the individual viewpoints come secondary to the overall group maintenance of this community. (Message edited by ft_bstrd on December 23, 2008) | ||
| Rubberdown |
Maybe i should have included a smiley such as  Personally, It seems that people take these internet communities way too seriously. | ||
| Metalstorm |
Damn you Slicker! You beat me by two years!!! GRRR!!! I thought I held the record by drinking at age 9. By the time I was a teenager drinking wasn't a big deal so I never became a heavy drinker. Peer pressure from my friends never got a hold on me. I was never allowed anything bigger than a BB gun when I was little but I hung out with my brother (7 years older than me) and his friends when they went shooting. Often they would let me fire the big guns and it was fun. I am probably the most non violent person I know. I don't even own a gun except for a couple 22 rifles. I saw my fist naked woman (real in the flesh, not a pic) at age 7. As luck would have it, many more presented themselves. It was probably a good thing cause by the time I reached puberty it wasn't that big of a deal so I wasn't too much of a menace. I consider it all early education which enabled me to think with the big head rather than the small one when it counted. What does all this have to do with this thread? I havn't a freaking clue. Maybe it's just that even the stuff we view as bad can serve a good purpose. Another thing I learned along the way was to always be polite, courteous and respectful in other peoples' homes. BadWeB is home to a lot of folks here and is literally Blake's house. I think that's really the only necessary rule. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
The whole "Right to Bear Arms" BS was good in 1776 but, IN MY OPINION, doesn't have any merit in this day and age.... Damnut, thx for expressing your opinion. in the meantime, we have the legal right to keep and bear arms in this country, whether you agree or not. legal right. so how does discussing firearms on BWB diminish the value of this place, or compare to the posting of pornography? Rubberdown, as far as a rule where we can ONLY discuss motorcycles, geez, what a boring place this'd soon be, and i can already hear the cries of "Gestapo!" aimed towards Blake and the custodians for the heavy-handed way we'd have to police this place to maintain that kind of topic rigidity. how 'bout we have the rules we have, gentle and easy-going, easy to live with, an "honor system" as it were, which has already proven that it works by virtue of a decade-plus of quality, value and service to the Buell enthusiast community? i surely must be missing something. FB | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Personally, It seems that people take these internet communities way too seriously. Rubberdown, smiley duly noted.  damn straight i take this place seriously. check out the "About BadWeB" link on the home page, and you'll see my name. a lot of people have put a lot of time (and, in Blake's case, money) into this place for the past 11 years. it's more than "just" an internet forum, this is our baby, and our home, and yes, we take it seriously. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays; hope your recovery is going well. FB | ||
| Rubberdown |
Exactly why I stated "personally". Happy Holidays All. | ||
| Poppinsexz |
The female body doesn't have to promote any 'bad' connotations, however it can. The gun doesn't have to promote any 'bad' connotations, however it can. When not promoting anything 'bad' there shouldn't be an issue, and isn't that the job of the mods. They will never please everybody. So we must all accept some things that we don't like. I find this is one of the biggest problems of our society. 'I' DEMAND THAT YOU DO IT 'MY' WAY!!! Life is not fair and will not always go your way. This anti gun thing is strange, I can understand an individual not having any interest in firearms. I can not understand the unbridled fear of such, and the insinuation that a firearm is the root of all evil and must be deleted from all aspects of society. Why can't people just live their lives without worrying so much about what others are doing? | ||
| Cityxslicker |
drinking routinely by 7, I had my first hit at 5 the year my grand father gave me my first motorcycle. It was a very memorable summer. First cigar (choked on that) first whiskey (later found out great grandpappy ran shine in the depression) first scooter, first shot down the barrel. by six I had my own gun, by seven had moved from whiskey to vodka and by 8 was off the 50cc and onto the MOST fun bike I ever had the XR75. MY CityX is the closest I have ever gotten to that bike. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Mine just happens to be bikes, guns, booze Happy Festivus and to all a good night. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I can't remember how old I was when I had my first beer.... I can't remember how old I was when I had my first rub of snuff.... But I do remember what happened after I put a rub of snuff in my lip and took a drink of beer... swallowing half the rub... I knew it was going to be bad... I could've sworn I saw my shoes launch out of my mouth  | ||
| Damnut |
Damnut, thx for expressing your opinion. in the meantime, we have the legal right to keep and bear arms in this country, whether you agree or not. You welcome F_B but I guess you miss it when I stated this: IN MY OPINION, those who have any more than traffic violations on their record should not be allowed own guns. I never stated that I believe the right to bear arms should be taken away from everyone. We have to take a test to drive a car but all we have to do is fill out a piece of paper to get a F.I.D. card (which I have) to purchase a gun. Pretty simple but also pretty stupid in my opinion. Once again just my belief and I'm not knocking what anyone thinks about the issue. Just inserting a difference of opinion. That's enough of a thread hijack from me. Merry Christmas or whatever you celebrate everyone!!! | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
thx Damnut; Merry Christmas to you, as well. FB | ||
| Bikertrash05 |
For those scared of guns and want them outlawed, a little history lesson: (taken from another site, if anything is inaccurate, please correct) In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. 末末末末末末末末末末末末末末末 In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. 末末末末末末末末末末末末末- Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated 末末末末末末末末末末末末末末末 China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. 末末末末末末末末末末末末末末 Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. 末末末末末末末末末末末末末末末 Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. 末末末末末末末末末末末末末末末 Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. 末末末末末末末末末末末末末末- Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million. 末末末末末末末末末末末末末末末 It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns! It will never happen here? I bet the Aussies said that too! While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it. You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind him of this history lesson. With Guns............We Are 'Citizens'. Without Them........We Are 'Subjects'. During W.W.II the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED! Note: Admiral Yamamoto who crafted the attack on Pearl Harbor had attended Harvard U 1919-1921 & was Naval Attach to the U. S. 1925-28. Most of our Navy was destroyed at Pearl Harbor & our Army had been deprived of funding & was ill prepared to defend the country. It was reported that when asked why Japan did not follow up the Pearl Harbor attack with an invasion of the U. S. Mainland, his reply was that he had lived in the U. S. & knew that almost all households had guns. | ||
| Ulywife |
Yeah, but it's the discussions of other interests here that make BW a richer, more rewarding place. NONE of us are 100% motorcycles. We have families and other interests. We share stories of intense happiness at the success of our children and loved ones, and we share the deepest extents of sadness at the death of cherished friends and loved ones. We all share in the experience. That's the reason I participate on BadWeB and not on other MC forums. It's what makes you want to travel 9 hours to meet some of these people you've only "met" online face to face. BadWeB is truly a family. As so many have stated, you may get here because of your motorcycle, but you stay because of the people. |
