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Kuuud
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FYI... if you need any vise-grips buy them now! The previously family-owned company has been bought by Rubbermaid. They are closing the factory and moving production to China!
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Iamike
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks, I use mine all the time to round off nuts and bolts that have those pesky sharp corners on them.
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Buellinator
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks, I use mine all the time to round off nuts and bolts that have those pesky sharp corners on them



ROTFLMAO
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Chasespeed
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have on pair, and they hold my back glass up on my Rodeo...

Chase
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Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use Craftsman brand grips.But hey,Craftsman is owned by Ryobi.REmember when we had Craftsman branded wrenches "Made in China"? THere was enough uproar that they brought manufacture back.

For now,i'll add the "Vice-Grip" and "Rubbermaid" brand to my list of banned companies to do business with.Along with the Levi's brand,Wall-Mart etc.

Thanks for the heads up on this most traitorous outsourcing yet again.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Off topic but a few definitions of tools you guys probably have around the shop. These are probably more accurate than what you'll find in the dictionary.

Subject: Shop Tools
DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat
metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and
flings your beer across the room, splattering it against that
freshly-stained heirloom piece you were drying.

WIRE WHEEL: Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere under
the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprints and
hard-earned guitar calluses from fingers in about the time it takes you
to say, "Ouch...."

ELECTRIC HAND DRILL: Normally used for spinning pop rivets in their holes
until you die of old age.

PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads. Sometimes used in the creation of
blood-blisters.

HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board
principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable
motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal
your future becomes.

VISE-GRIPS: Generally used after pliers to further round off bolt heads.
If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense
welding heat to the palm of your hand.

OXYACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for lighting various flammable
objects in your shop on fire. Also handy for igniting the grease inside
the wheel hub you want the bearing race out of.

WHITWORTH SOCKETS: Once used for working on older British cars and
motorcycles, they are now used mainly for impersonating that 9/16 or 1/2
socket you've been searching for the last 15 minutes.

HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering an automobile to the ground after
you have installed your new brake shoes, trapping the jack handle firmly
under the bumper.

EIGHT-FOOT LONG DOUGLAS FIR 2X4: Used for levering an automobile upward
off of a trapped hydraulic jack handle.

TWEEZERS: A tool for removing wood splinters and wire wheel wires.

E-Z OUT BOLT AND STUD EXTRACTOR: A tool ten times harder than any known
drill bit that snaps off in bolt holes you couldn't use anyway.

TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST: A tool for testing the tensile strength on
everything you forgot to disconnect.

CRAFTSMAN 1/2 x 16-INCH SCREWDRIVER: A large prybar that inexplicably has
an accurately machined screwdriver tip on the end opposite the handle.

AVIATION METAL SNIPS: See hacksaw.

TROUBLE LIGHT: The home mechanic's own tanning booth. Sometimes called a
drop light, it is a good source of vitamin D, "the sunshine vitamin,"
which is not otherwise found under cars at night. Health benefits aside,
its main purpose is to consume 40-watt light bulbs at about the same rate
that 105-mm howitzer shells might be used during, say, the first few
hours of the Battle of the Bulge. More often dark than light, its name is
somewhat misleading.

PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the vacuum seals under lids
and for opening old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splashing oil on
your shirt; but can also be used, as the name implies, to strip out
Phillips screw heads.

AIR COMPRESSOR: A machine that takes energy produced in a coal-burning
power plant 200 miles away and transforms it into compressed air that
travels by hose to a Chicago Pneumatic impact wrench that grips rusty
bolts which were last over tightened 50 years ago by someone at Ford, and
neatly rounds off their heads.

PRY BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or
bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part.

HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to cut hoses too short.

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is
used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts not far
from the object we are trying to hit.

MECHANIC'S KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of
cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly well
on contents such as seats, vinyl records, liquids in plastic bottles,
collector magazines, refund checks, and rubber or plastic parts.
Especially useful for slicing work clothes, but only while in use.

DAMMIT TOOL: Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the garage
while yelling "DAMMIT" at the top of your lungs. It is also the next tool
that you will need.

EXPLETIVE: A balm, also referred to as mechanic's lube, usually applied
verbally in hindsight, which somehow eases those pains and indignities
following our every deficiency in foresight.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't know Craftsman is owned by Ryobi. I do know Ryobi and Milwaukee Tools are both owned by the same Chinese company.
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Garyz28
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Craftsman is owned by Sears. Sears can Contract with whomever they please to manufacture their tools. Many different companies have manufactured Craftsman tools over the years and I don't doubt Ryobi is one of them, but the name and the basic designs of all Craftsman hand tools belong to Sears.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

K-rocket!

I am going to print that out and frame it

ROTFLMAO



It's something a Buell rider can truly understand.
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I do know Ryobi and Milwaukee Tools are both owned by the same Chinese company.

And people wonder why we're in a depression...
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow, I forgot all about the pair of super small needle nose vice grips I left clamped to the brake line under the big Kids car!

Now I remember where they are!
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Teddagreek
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

F##King Milwaukee

now I'm depressed...
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Redefine420
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DAMMIT TOOL: Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the garage
while yelling "DAMMIT" at the top of your lungs. It is also the next tool
that you will need.

A tool I use all too often.
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Gjwinaus
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

K-rocket! That is so correct even at the diametrically opposite side of the world
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My Sears power tools are made by Porter cable. Trying to find anything not made in China, Taiwan, Korea, ect is nearly imposible...
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Spatten1
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My Craftsman locking pliers have an extra lever that pinches your hand creating a blood blister nearly every use.

Mine are about 30 years old, so I guess the Vice Grip patent ran out and Sears makes better ones now anyway.

If you weld, Vice Grips are your friend.
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Garyz28
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just took a look at Milwaukee's website. Atlas Copco AB.,the parent company of Milwaukee is located in Stockholm Sweden. All Milwaukee power tools are manufactured in the U.S.

http://www.milwaukeetool.com/us/en/about.nsf/vwPag es/headquarters-and-facilities?OpenDocument
P.S. The same company owns Ryobi and several other well known brands.

(Message edited by garyz28 on December 07, 2008)
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Metalstorm
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST: A tool for testing the tensile strength on
everything you forgot to disconnect.


I can attest to that.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CREEPER: A dolly like devise that systematically removes hair from your head as you go about your work under a car. Sometimes known to seize said work followed by a cry for help.
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gary; you went to the wrong page on Milwaukee's site. On this page it says that Atlas Copco and Milwaukee were bought by TTI.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/us/en/about.nsf/vwPag es/the-company?OpenDocument
I went to TTI's web site and it says,"TTI was founded by Horst Pudwill and Roy Chi Ping Chung in 1985"
The world will be owned by China in the near future.
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Garyz28
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well that sucks!!!

I looked up TTI. Corporate headquarters is in Hong Kong.

Buying American is getting tougher to do every day.
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Strokizator
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm looking for a good bench vise. Wilton (I assume is made in the good ole USA) is way pricey but I can't bring myself to buy anything made in China.

Anybody got a reasonable alternative?
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Leatherman Crunch
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Remember that it is we, the buying public, that are forcing these companies to outsource. When we buy the cheaper foreign product instead of the made in USA one, we're putting the US manufacturer out of business. It's outsource or die these days. We can only blame ourselves.
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Court
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>When we buy the cheaper foreign product instead of the made in USA one, we're putting the US manufacturer out of business.

Precisely.

My Red Wing boot salesman tried to get me to opt for the "Chinese Red Wings" whatever the are . . Worx or something.

Ditto guitars.

I just bought a Gibson, made in Bozeman, Montana, USA and I am fully aware that the Epiphones (Epi at one time was an Italian immigrant who came to America to make guitars) that Gibson owns and imports are, in these days, or equal quality.

So . . .ask yourself.

If you were on the verge of buying a Gibson SG would you go with a "Made in the USA" Authentic '61 reissue for $1,700 or the $400 (just as good) Epiphone?

Many folks say one thing and then I see them at Guitar Center (where I would never spend a single $$$) buying the imports.

What would you do?
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Ducxl
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you were on the verge of buying a Gibson SG would you go with a "Made in the USA" Authentic '61 reissue for $1,700 or the $400 (just as good) Epiphone?

$1700. would be cheap if i played guitar.I'd charge it and pay it over a few months.Think of the pride of ownership

Like buying a Ducati instead of a Kawasaki Superbike..Mmmmmmmmm Satisfaction
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Danny_h__jesternut
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd rather have the Kawi, bang for the buck, bottom line an all. Riding vs wrenching? Japan inc. builds the best cars,bikes and jest about anything else for that matter. Its a throw away would anyhow. Why should I spend my hard earned income on over priced under proforming domestic goods? When I can get the foreign produced goods cheep at wal world?
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Spatten1
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you were on the verge of buying a Gibson SG would you go with a "Made in the USA" Authentic '61 reissue for $1,700 or the $400 (just as good) Epiphone?

I just bought a $400 Epiphone SG......

It's my first guitar, and If I had to pay $1800 for a US made Gibson, I would not be able to take up guitar now.

(Message edited by spatten1 on December 08, 2008)
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Alii1959
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are many companies in the U.S. who are making quality products, at reasonable prices, and still making a profit. When possible we all, probably, want to "buy American", but we would be poor stewards of our resources to squander them. If you want to get my money, simply make a product that I am willing to spend the extra to get......I am typing this on a new Aluminum MacBook. If an American manufacturer wants the buying public to buy their products become more innovative and cost effective. I have a Cannondale bicycle, an American company, some of whose products are made elsewhere. I don't understand how companies that were making terrific profits for years didn't save some of that money to keep ahead of the game. I keep coming back to Harley. I remember when they "came back" and was proud to see it happen. Couldn't afford one then......can't afford one now, but one has to respect their wherewithal to listen to their customer and continue to produce what is desired. Too often a company gets complacent.....GM......and forgets what got them there. Kodak nearly killed itself off by spitting in the face of the digital age. Americans have no problem spending the money on products that have great value. You wanna succeed here....quit whining, get to work, don't over charge, don't get complacent, and never forget who pays for your lifestyle.....the consumer.
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Cochise
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I always refer to a Crescent Wrench as a Universal Nut Stripper.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I always refer to a Crescent Wrench as a Universal Nut Stripper." So THAT'S how your wife got them in her purse.......
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Court
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>It's my first guitar, and If I had to pay $1800 for a US made Gibson, I would not be able to take up guitar now.

Thank you . . . my point precisely. You'll love the Epiphone. Not only does the company have a fabulous history, it's an excellent guitar.

Hey . . . thanks to The Beatles the prices on Casino's are still up there.

Enjoy and practice, practice, practice. . . .
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Court,

Did you know that Gibson bought Griffiths Guitars and his technology. Griffit's is a Newfoundlander and there is still a factory here now building Gibsons.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2007/07/04/gibson-garrison.html

(Message edited by Newfie_Buell on December 08, 2008)
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