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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pepper spray? Stun weapons? Pistols? What do you guys carry, and where do you carry it?

~SM
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

knife, pocket.
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Bill0351
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not this thread again!

Fists and feet.

End of my arms and legs.

I take them everywhere. They have served me well.
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Babired
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

can't carry these or try to on the bike scroll all the way down

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/414424.html?1226927106
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Doon
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My helmet. Can headbutt or swing : )
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Doerman
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

condoms
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Miamiuly
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Downshift and throttle?
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Boliver
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


Is this some sort of joke?
I do not own or have the need to ride
with any sort of weapon.
I guess Georgia is a dangerous place to live.You might save some money and lives if you move to a more friendly place.
Definitely PEACE to you.
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LMAO
So is the fire extinguisher in your kitchen unloaded?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't carry.

I haven't had a need. There aren't to many people who attack 235lb 6' men riding motorcycles.

I would prefer to monkey someone up and flee. I have enough "tools" in the toolbox to do that.
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Seanp
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brain, inside my head.

That being said, if I were to carry, I'd probably get some sort of a shoulder rig to wear underneath my motorcycle gear. The only problem is that, in a get-off, you might get a rib or two broken from the big piece of metal strapped to your side. With a small enough gun and a thick leather holster, it might not be so bad though.

Another option, (though I don't know about Georgia laws and how you can carry) is a thigh rig. I used one on my first deployment to carry my 9mm. It works great, is comfortable for all-day wear, and I would think that if you do have a get-off, the gun would only bruise your thigh versus breaking a rib. Also, the gun is then right out in the open to act as a deterrent, if that's your thing.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

knife, pocket.
+1

condoms

He asked where do you keep them as well...
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

all the time LOL

better safe than sorry...
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does the condom in my wallet count for personal protection?
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Court
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess I'm in the "I'd choose a safer location to ride in. " category . . . I ride through Harlem and the South Bronx fairly frequently and simply try to always be aware of my surroundings and always maintain at least two options that allow me to leverage being on a bike to my advantage.

Sounds gutless, I'll confess, but if I decide to leave or get uneasy, I'm betting on the Buell to be my "protection".
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Hooligan620
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ride smart, be aware of your surroundings, use your brain and if you need to run away! Hands, feet, teeth are all viable options, and fight dirty there are no rules in a street fight.

Guns, knives, etc require time and thought to produce and use, if you are not practiced a weapon is of little use. If you carry a gun you also have to be mentally able to kill another human being.

Must reading for anyone packing is "On Killing" by Dave Grossman. He talks about the psychology of killing a like species, looks at kill rates in war and how we have had to change the way we train our soldiers to kill. He also discusses the impact of video games on young people but that's a topic for a whole other thread.
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Jb2
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 What Doon said.

I've carried various items for protection from the human species over years of travel. The only time I ever felt the need for a weapon I had my full face in hand and chased off a couple of would be thieves. Downtown Atlanta - 1993

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29 9862&page=6&highlight=spooky

Post 81

JB2
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Skinstains
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you are scared where you are riding, ride somewhere else. I know that I can "F" up every single human I have ever met, without a traditional weapon. That knowledge is all I need. Good luck.
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd rather have a knife and not need it than need a knife and not have it...
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Bill0351
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you take a knife out of your pocket without the right training, you are more than likely going to find it sticking out of your own chest. I had fairly extensive training with knife fighting in the USMC, and what it taught me more than anything is that adding a knife to a fight isn't good for anyone.

Bill
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

What do you guys carry, and where do you carry it?




I carry a throttle and two brakes, the throttle is controlled by one hand and connected to the carb, the brakes are controlled either by the throttle hand or by one foot. Both the brakes and the throttle system are connected to the bike.

I hope this answers your question.

Any further discussion will quickly get political, and legal, and should probably best be discussed elsewhere by others because due to the results of the recent election I've got nothing to carry and I've got nothing to say and even if I did I sold or lost it years ago someplace else that I can't recall when and where, or words to that effect [(insert appropriate emoticon here]

Disclaimer:(the current post is simply for entertainment purposes only and is being used as a dialog study for a future fictional short story or theatric production intended to be presented or portrayed or displayed in an amateur non-professional manner with no real intention of ever generating a profit directly or indirectly if ever presented or portrayed or displayed or if ever attempted to be presented or portrayed or displayed by any people or agencies or groups being either fictional or factual or neither or both.)
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Court
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>I had fairly extensive training with knife fighting in the USMC,

Could not agree more (based on training at MCRD San Diego). I've been shot and got to witness Jack Eaton, screaming "what the xxx do you want?" as he jumped out of my car and Kenny Baker took a straight razor too him, spalttering enough entails to require 100 stickes from belly btton to near throat. That convinced me I'd, in many cases, rahter be shot than take on a knife.

Few folks are capable of both maintaining control of and effectively using a knife at the same time. . . myself at the top of that list.

One of the folks here is one of the best in the world at it and, like most such folks, the last one who would talk about it.

Traditionally . . I've seemed to end up on the wrong end of guns and knives.
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Hooligan620
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Caliber Press who does street survival training for cops just extended the effective range of a person with a knife to 24 feet, up from 21. This means a person yielding a knife closer then 24 feet can cut you before you can react and protect yourself. When encountering a person with a knife distance is everything.

A survival mindset is vital if you find yourself in a fight, you may get hit, cut or shot but knowing you can work through the pain and win is critical to staying alive.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bill sez:

"Not this thread again!

Fists and feet.

End of my arms and legs.

I take them everywhere. They have served me well.
"

F*CKIN-A, William}
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Too many Jack Echanises on these boards...

...everybody's a f*cking SeAL on web forums
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Teddagreek
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Statistically this is your best protection..

Med info and Emergency contacts..


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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I havnt carried a pistol on my bike yet. I try to avoid places where I would need to carry. There are a handful of small pistols you could carry no bigger than a wallet. Lots of options.

I dont know Georgias laws but start here:

http://www.georgiapacking.org/
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not to worry, ted- all the Jason Bournes in the web hero keep their personal med info in a laser bean along with their UBS account #, sewn into the skin of their hips
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...everybody's a f*cking SeAL on web forums"

Wow, Tramp and I find common ground or at the least, a laugh
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can I ask the original poster (SM) why you feel the need to carry personal protection while riding? I'm not trying to be a prick or anything, I honestly want to know.

(Message edited by mikef5000 on November 18, 2008)
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