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Tripper
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What reep-the-cheap said. Can I close this thread now?
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Court
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>This thread is funnier than the joke page!
Accurate

>>>I don't know the details, but I bet I am still right...
I do; you are.

>>>What reep-the-cheap said. Can I close this thread now?

Please. It has no place here. Anyone think this will be, to the subrogation of the legal process, resolved on the internet?

Raise you hands....

I'm outta it.

Court
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh come on Court, everyone knows we secretly run the entire world from this board.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake,

You better pass on that rain forest!!!

The temperature dropped over the weekend and now its kinda an ice forest!!!!

My bike is way outta warranty so I can ride it how I please!!!!!!

I wonder if the drag racing on the track is what killed the rear shock that was replaced under warranty!!!!Maybe it was a defective unit?!?!

I KNOW - IT WAS ME FAT ARSE

Is there a fat arse "Exclusion" in the Warranty????? Someone please investigate this!!!



edited by Newfie_Buell on November 16, 2003
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Iamike
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why are you guys so wrapped up in this warranty stuff. I couldn't wait till mine was out of the warranty, so I could do anything with it that I wanted to.
The LAST thing I want to do with my bike is to have to take it to the dealer for work. I understand that they try but the difference in how I am treated at my Chevy service shop and the Harley/Buell shops is utterly amazing.
A couple of weeks ago I had to have my car in for some work. They called me in the afternoon and said that it wouldn't be done, and then they offered me a loaner for the night. The last time my Buell was in the shop for a shock recall replacement I took it in on a monday and then called them again friday afternoon wondering when I was going to get my bike back. It was done but when I asked when it was finished they said "wednesday". I wonder how long they would have kept it until they would have called.
I just expect 'Customer Service Departments' to remember the 'service' part of their name.
I don't even want to talk about what they did to Jprovo when he was passing thru.
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Iamike
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh, and while we're discussing warranties, let's talk about insurance too. I'm tired of having squids say, "Hey, so what if I wreck it, insurance will cover it." Then they wonder why insurance is so high.
It reminds me of when the HD/Buell Cycle Center was running a dyno shootout. A guy came in with a Busa with 125 miles on it. The dyno operator didn't want to run it but the guy said "so what if it blows up, it's still under warranty". We all pay for that type of idiocy.
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Rex
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i don't think so. you are only in first or second gear......seen too many dealers and bikes do battletrax.......
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Two_buells
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Captainkirk
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Speaking of insurance....my premium with a national company which shall go unnamed (PROGRESSIVE!!!)doubled this year at my renewal.No accidents, no claims, no driving infractions. Just because. Pleased to say I dropped them like a hot potato. Their excuse was "statistics and demographics"- seems like people riding Buells in my locale have been having accidents. Duh! Wouldn't have anything to do with people driving with a cell phone growing out of one ear and the other hand pounding a cheeseburger down their throat? Oh yeah, it seems like they've also discovered a Buell is not a lawn tractor. Anybody else have this problem? I can recommend a better company if you want (saved $300.00/yr.) Interesting fact; when my agent ran my bike as a Buell M2 the premium came up the same as last year. When he punched in the year ('99) and the VIN the premium doubled. Seems the must have figured out that the Thunderstormed M2 cranks out 91 HP. If only they'd read the brochures... Just for snicks, what are some of you all paying? I'd be a little scared to buy an XB due to all this.
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Buellnuts
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey you guy,s, Lets keep the Rain Forest trading outa this thread OK?
I ain,t never had any issue's with B-Trax abuse botherin any issues I ever had with the Buells.(Did that come out right?)

The secret is to be fast and smooth while not dropping the bike. No droppa the Bike, They no aska the question's.

In The Rain Forest, Bob

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Bomber
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

er, when did you guys start taking everything Dyna says so seriously?
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Because this is a serious topic & folks should be aware that their warranty can be compromised by running in B-Trax. If they have a good dealer who is willing to back them..great. But if they have one of the many many shady dealers out there they could be in for a suprise.

Also Buell/HD is taking more & more of the "judgement" call warranty cases out of the dealers hands & is handing down replies which arent favorable to the owners.
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Josh_
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>warranty can be compromised by running in B-Trax

Just like it can by doing any performance mods to it.

>good dealer who is willing to back them

broken record.

>Also Buell/HD is taking more & more of the "judgement" call warranty cases out of the dealers hands

You have internal memos / charts to back this up?
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Cj_xb
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think your over dramatizing Dyna, sure if you crash in a Battletrax warranty might be voided that's to be expected, but just participating in it isn't a big deal !!

You have to use common sense, you don't do much differently in Battletrax than you do out on the road, including an occasional crash !!

Just riding around the course in Battletrax isn't going to hurt your bike so you won't need the warranty for that anyway, if it didn't cause the problem with your bike I don't believe Buell or anyone else is going to say it did !!

If you run the hell out of your bike or crash during Battletrax then you'll know it's your fault and can't expect the warranty to fix it !!

My 2 cents worth !!

CJ

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Josh_
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>I think your over dramatizing Dyna

Noooooo. Not the guy planning to drop a flaming motorcycle onto the factory from a helicopter.
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Court
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Not the guy planning to drop a flaming motorcycle onto the factory from a helicopter.

Been there, done that.

Dateline: San Francisco - 1997
Red 1996 S-1 Lighting (draped in lemons)
Sikorsy S-76

You guys are too new to this game.

:)
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hd has always made the calls on warranty work...just like chevy ford dodge and anybody else. it has always been the manufaturer who makes that call in the end.

sometimes a dealership thinks it should be covered than hd says no...well the dealer loses money...thats how its always been.
thats why its called the manufacturers warranty and such. its not called a dealers warranty
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW thats also why sometimes your dealer says tought crap and then you get on the horn to customer service and it gets taken care of....the manufacture always makes the call
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if it didn't cause the problem with your bike I don't believe Buell or anyone else is going to say it did !!

Oh how little you know. When i see you again I will tell you a few things that will open your mind a bit. Has nothing to do with issues being caused directly as a result of participating ina B-trax event. Read your warranty & you will see what i mean. Buell/HD is starting to really get picky about these things. They can & have voided warrantys because of such events.

>Also Buell/HD is taking more & more of the "judgement" call warranty cases out of the dealers hands

You have internal memos / charts to back this up?


Hows this?
hd has always made the calls on warranty work

Everyone thinks Buell is still some quaint little manufacturer with the mad scientist building bikes in a barn & they will repair your bike under that mythical "goodwill" program forever. Hey guys news flash here, its almost 2004 & HD runs the show & they will do anything & everything they can to maximize profits. If this means screwing the consumer out of his warranty so the factory doesnt eat any repair costs, then so be it.
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Tripper
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gee, do ya think that editing pictures of a dealers billboard to include your glorious middle finger displayed toward them, and posting it on the internet for all to see, may have helped your cause? You probably think it has nothing to do with it.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dyna
Thats what I mean nothing you say here is news. since 1998 atleast it has always been hd calling the warranty work. but....oh well its time to go home....
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Rex
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would say running a buell on a dyno would do more harm than battletrax, unless you are constantly burning the rear tire off the bike...what would battletrax do that could void engine warranty?
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Biker: Can you fix my mirror. All the silver has come off the back.
Tech: No problem, we've seen this on a couple of bikes. Covered under warranty.
Biker: Cool.
Tech: Oh wait. I just checked the B-Trax report. Looks as though you ran your bike. Too bad for you. That'll be $50 for a new mirror...
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what would battletrax do that could void engine warranty?
Ask Buell. Funny how no anons have popped in here.

Tripper, you have your timeline of events messed up. That pic was posted 6 months after my deal. So no it had no bearing at all.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna maybe tripper's time line is off but what about mine your profile shows you doing a BATTLE TRAX doesn't it.
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Psst Dana...the B-trax events were all after my warranty period was up anyways. Somehow a few folks upstairs forgot to check the dates of the events.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah I think they must forget alot.This thread is completely stupid.I'm out of here
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Daves
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

See you at BattleTrax next summer Dana?


Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Sarodude
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why does this even matter? Does ANYONE warranty ANYTHING that is raced? (although a definition of Race would be nice) Please...

So what if Buell sponsors the BTrax. They've sponsored various race classes - and I bet your Pro Thunder prepped tuber's warranty expired the first time it hit the track.

People, let's not get silly.

-Saro
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Cj_xb
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell/HD is starting to really get picky about these things.

You may be right about getting picky, after all they did void our patch !!!

CJ
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