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Teddagreek
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I heard something about this a while back but I guess its really going to happen..

My cousins Triumph gave me the itch to buy my first road bike.. Man my mom was pissed when I drug home that raggedy honda.


Anyways WTF are they thinking...

Does any one know more about this?

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults /user/2008/August/Triumph-moving-to-Thailand--chea per-for-who/
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes - this is very old news - they have been manufacturing components in Thailand for 4 or 5 years now.

Ironically mostly for the classics range.
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Sticks
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 05:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thaiumph
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well that's lame.

I think the girlfriend's next bike (once she masters her Ninja 250) will be a Scrambler - it's the only new bike she's really mentioned liking.

Looks like I'll be looking for a used one, lol.
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46champ
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Better Thailand than China
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Kuuud
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kawasaki has been building the KLR 650 there for years...or was it Malaysia?
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Kuuud
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmm, so it's moving ALL production or just opening a second manufacturing center?

Guess I won't ever buy a new Thai-umph!
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Ducxl
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sarcasm alert!!!!

Better Thailand than China

But,but,that's Capitalism at work!!
Cheaper TRiumphs for the masses? Or increased profit margin for Corporate?

China?? But,but,they make a number of Buell components like wheels and swingarm.
Maybe Buell will consider moving manufacturing to China.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>Maybe Buell will consider moving manufacturing to China.

If they do they should have no problem finding space. There is a very large building under construction adorned with a most familiar Bar and Shield.

The factory in Brazil, although starting slowly, is producing bikes as well.

It is a global economy.
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Rainman
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What are they going to produce in Thailand? I couldn't find out for sure. I at least want my Buell assembled in the U.S., even if some parts are from overseas. Heck, no use trying outdo Ohlins or Showa, if they make the best.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One of the most overused and abused phrases - it's a global economy

Proceed at your own peril
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

xenophobia |ˌzēnəˈfōbēə; ˌzenə-|
noun
intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries

:-P

It really just doesn't matter.

(Message edited by danger_dave on August 27, 2008)
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>One of the most overused and abused phrases

You, typing on your computer that was made in China, forgot to leave out "misunderstood".

Tell ya what . . . go best the BEST "Made in the U.S.A." t-shirt or computer you can . . .

It is indeed a "Global Economy" and if you do not understand that does not mean something as silly as "we simply surrendered to folks who do it cheaper" I suggest you buy a basic economics text and bone up.

Dismissing a phrase you don't understand as "abused" doesn't make it so.

Court
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Teddagreek
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Xenophobe, Seriously?


I wouldn't buy a English motorcycle made in Thailand...

That doesn't make any one a xenophobe because they already want a English motorcycle to begin with..
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>Xenophobe, Seriously? <<

>> :-P <<
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm as big a Triumph fan as I am Buell.

I've met two of the Bloors.

It bugged me when I first read about it, but I've since interviewed the a chief tech.

All the design work happens in house at Hinckley and will stay there. They also have the most modern production facility in the world there.

Subsequently the product ships all over the world in rapidly increasing numbers.

The logistics and profitability of making the product are best suited by having a base on the other side of the planet.

Historically - If it was Meriden Triumph or Coventry Triumph even I'd have bigger issues. But really. The only thing the current incarnation of Triumph has to the marques golden history is in the marketing imagery.

Modern company kicking goals.
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just following Enfield I guess.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That Scrambler is probably the only other bike that I would consider for my riding needs for a one bike do it all. If I werent on the cityX I would be on that.

AND I know DD knows what I am talking about after reading his review of it on ADVrider
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

(In Kiwi) Knobby tyres and wring it's neck bro. Sweeeeet.

It's 20 ponies shy for me personally and the 2-up work I do.
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Sticks
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm a total zenaphobe. I'd do her in a pinch, but I hated that show. Triumphs should be made in England, just as Ducatis should be made in Italy. Buells are American, that's part of what makes them special. Sure the wheels and lord knows what else come from China. That's great but I want a Buell assembled by Americans otherwise it isn't really a Buell.

Triumphs hail from England, at least they should. I love triples but part of the appeal is that it's a Brit bike. At what point is it just a badge that means nothing?
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MMMMMM Xena!
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





All your Triumphs are belong to me!
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Rainman
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've looked around, taking Court's advice, and I can't find anything I've bought in the past 5 years - except for my Blast - that's predominately made in America.

My Dell is made in "Micronesia," where ever the hell that is. My Toyota is from Canada, my friend's Ford Focus is from Mexico, my motoclothes are Pakistani and another friend's Chevy is made by a Japanese arm of GM in Korea.

Exactly what do Americans still make, other than pickups and SUVs? What do we produce besides paperwork?

What is our economy based on, other than consumption?
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You reckon that's bad - how much French stuff have you got?
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Miamiuly
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Exactly what do Americans still make, other than pickups and SUVs? What do we produce besides paperwork?

Lockheed Martin runs a lot of commercials on CNN patting themselves on the back... I imagine they and a few others are making some good money and products.

I liked that Made in America series and was just mentioning to a friend tonight that Edelbrock is still proud to make stuff in America.

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We do make a mean batch of slothy round about the middle teenagers with marginal grammar skills and flagrant disregard for ambition or authority. We could always export that. ; )
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe the Japanese will dump them in the sea for future use like they are doing with Australian coal.
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Sticks
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 04:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks DD, Xenaphobe, quite right.

We build plenty of buildings here. I don't expect to see many 40 story hotels on American soil that say "made in China" on the bottom. Err, yet.

You can't simply pump your raw teenagers into the bay anymore. EPA and all.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 05:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I tell ya.

My ol' lady is nearly 6', long black hair, gorgeous baby blues and could punt a football 40 yards in her prime.

I used to pick her before some blokes in pick up games.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 06:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>What is our economy based on, other than consumption?

Lots!

This is one of my problems when this conversation comes up. Sometimes folks, faced with the reality that there are some things other do better than us loose sight of the fact that there are many things that Americans do better than ANY ONE IN THE WORLD.

I've not time for the lecture now but I'll leave you this to think about . . .. I attend one of the top Ivy League schools in the United States and folks from around the world are doing whatever they can, paying whatever they have to and sacrificing anything to get in. Try buying an Asian or Indian operating system for your computer. Look, even, at some of the innovative techniques that the folks at Buell, a globally diverse group by the way, have taught the Italians, Austrians, Japanese and Chinese about manufacturing and design.

Americans are among the smartest, most creative and industrious people in the world.

I'd never buy that we are the "best" or that we have to manufacturer everything here . . . .but we are the run away best at many of the things we do.

I'm always, in any discussion, proud to hail from the country that has captured the imagination of the world. . . . if there is any doubt ask yourself why just shy of 500,000 tourists arrive in New York City DAILY and why there are so many folks around the world willing to leave the safety and security of their homeland to come to America to roll the dive . . . this is truly the land of opportunity.

Don't get Erik Buell or I started on this subject . . .we are both fortunate beneficiaries of those opportunities.

Court
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