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Archive through August 09, 2008Corporatemonkey30 08-09-08  04:38 pm
         

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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ashame your not a little closer. Some summer shady and an afternoon we are good. As long as you don't mind listening to stevie ray or clapton.
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ashame your not a little closer.

That sounds like a business model. Someone needs to buy an RV w/ a race trailer.

You could travel the country providing regional service out of the trailer.

I know more than a few people that would be interested in that.
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep and at 4.00 per gallon you'd only need to charge 1500.00 for the service!

I'm not surprised that Tramp believes he is the world authority on what constitutes a bow.
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ep and at 4.00 per gallon you'd only need to charge 1500.00 for the service!

I have actually looked into the model. even at $4 a gallon it should work.

I got the idea from a contractor I used recently. This guy (and his wife) travel the country installing high end mobile satellite dishes (Motosat products). He traveled in a nice custom Prevost bus, towing a box van full of parts.
When you brought a dish from him, installation is included in the price. The profit margin per dish is not that great (a couple of hundred), so he traveled to an area, like say the Tucson/Phoenix area, and serviced a dozen people while there.
From what I was gathering, his yearly income made mine look like chump change.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just do rally and event services. Do local Hubs. Like Sport Bike NW, there will be 550 riders and bikes there. Several people will broach service oil changes with the ride to, the event and the ride home. Last year at the event, I lost my wheel bearings, having an onsite truck to do that service would have been worth it to me. (even though it was a warranty item, it would have meant two more days of riding rather than in the shop) If I had the mechanical skillz I would do it, unfortunately, i am only good at sales and demo.
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is exactly what I am thinking of.
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Strmvt
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My dealer has dropped their 10k service price to 530$ I was like whoa hehe but I have a service manual and have done all of it except the forks
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 03:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My dealer has dropped their 10k service price to 530$

That is more like it.
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If it has pulleys, and requires a technician, it ain't a "bow".


I'm not surprised that Tramp believes he is the world authority on what constitutes a bow.



"world authority"?



Dave- I was making a good-natured jab at Compound shooters and all their doo-dads.
No implication of world authority, there.
A "bow" is just that- A nice bowed length of material with a string connecting the ends, eg. Longbows and Recurves.
Many of us "stick"(or "Primitive")shooters, as you're aware, don't consider the complicated compounds to be "bows".
My "Bear 'Kodiak Hunter'" is bow enough for my needs, without the pulleys, bells and whistles.
...they making compounds with hand-warmers and rangefinders, yet?



you were more humourous when you worked in Buell parts}
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Prof_stack
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WWTD? What would Ted (Nugent) do (use)?

When my kid was into archery he used a simple bow and cheap arrows. At the archery range I saw some pretty fancy looking compound bows being used by some serious archers.
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are many positive aspects to compounds, one of the primaries being the increased kill over sticks.
Fewer deer are running around with arrows hanging out of them, now that most bow-hunters use compounds.
I've never had a clean kill with my bows, always had to track a bit.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"they making compounds with hand-warmers and rangefinders, yet? "

Actually, yes.
You can get heated grips for some bows
Later this year Ben Pearson (a company that started making stick bows in 1927) will have the Deliverance bow out. It has a built in range finder.
Going to be pretty sweet!

Saying a compound is not a bow is kind of the same as saying that modern guns are not "real" guns, we should all use original matchlock guns?

Most of my friends/customers that shoot traditional gear also have compounds.
They, like me, like all bows, traditional or modern.
I have mucho respect for those willing to put in the time needed to become proficient with traditional gear and make clean kills. It takes lots of practice, almost daily to hone this skill (for most)
Fred Eichler just completed a "Slam" with traditional gear. He is a heck of a shot and hunter as well as being a nice guy.
He also shoots a compound some.

I'm still plenty humorous, I was pulling your chain, as you were with me. Sorry it didn't come off that way to you.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Apartment living sucks for gear heads. Most of the places I have stayed in had strict rules on parking areas. One place wouldn't even allow a vehicle to be towed into the facility, even if it was a bike in truck or trailer. All vehicles had to enter under their own power.

When I started looking for a house I joked that I was looking for a garage, the house was just a bonus. But covered parking and a place to work on my bike/car was the biggest reason for me to buy my own place. I passed up a couple of very nice places because they had no garage or carport.


On prices; I believe my closest dealer in Pensacola charges about $650-690 for a 10K. I can't remember precisely but I think forks alone were under $300.
If you can find some one to let you use their shop/driveway & tools you could do everything but the forks yourself and then pay the dealer to do those. IIRC most of the service is just changing fluids and checking the bike thoroughly for wear and tear (bushings, bearings, ect.)
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a thought:
get a group of riders together, and rent a storage unit where you can all keep your tools and sort of 'time-share' your maintenance hours.
NOT all storage facilities enforce any no-maintenance rules. here in my area, folks use them for band practice, motorcycle maintenance, electric-motor repair, etc. etc. etc. .... the list goes on.

If you can't find a cool storage facility, approach a farmer, offering him a few bucks to use a shed at his place.

Another option, if you can get enough fellow enthusiasts together, is to simply rent garage space somewhere, as a club or co-op.
This is not as difficult as it might sound, and you can get insurance for an ad-hoc enthusiasts' group quite cheaply.

potential garage-space landlords are very impressed by pre-rental liability policies, it shows that you're not a just a group of jerk-offs.
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Akbuell
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And don't be afraid to get and read a service manual. I know you don't choose to do your own work (and that's OK), but the manual is helpful because:

1. If/when the bike starts doing something different, you can go to the manual and do a diagnosis. That way if the service writer tells you the blinker fluid is low, you can immediately leave and find another shop.

2. If a service item is due, you can look at the procedure. Changing the oil, for example, involves doing A and B and C. Should take about a half hour. If the service writer quotes 2hrs labor, then you are off to look for another shop.

Hope all of the responses help. Dave
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Firebolt32
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

5k services I do on my own. 10k services I bring to a place called X-techs. The are former H/D techs. $200ish for the Buell.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you do not have time, don't have tools, don't have a place to work on your bike or just are not mechanically inclined then I don't see why you are ranting over the dealers price for the service. It is what it is. If you can't do it, then you're just gonna have to pay someone who can or does. End of story.

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Tramp
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GREAT points- I STRONGLY recommend you try to get a few fellow Buell owners together to rent a small space. Some of them may have better tools, some may be versed in associated service, and , regardless, you're likely to make GREAT friends.
I wish more 'citizens' would adapt/implement some of the intelligent attributes of Motorcycle Clubs, such as shared services.
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Azxb9r
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Take Prof Stack up on his offer to get the things done that you are comfortable doing, then pay someone to do the fork. That should knock the price down to a point that is more palatable.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sh1t- send me your forks (sans triple-trees), I'll do the service.
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Rainman
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you do not have time, don't have tools, don't have a place to work on your bike or just are not mechanically inclined then I don't see why you are ranting over the dealers price for the service. It is what it is. If you can't do it, then you're just gonna have to pay someone who can or does. End of story.

True. That's why I've started doing the really simple things myself. That builds confidence and toughens the knuckles for future blood-letting.

I STRONGLY recommend you try to get a few fellow Buell owners together to rent a small space. Some of them may have better tools, some may be versed in associated service, and , regardless, you're likely to make GREAT friends. I wish more 'citizens' would adapt/implement some of the intelligent attributes of Motorcycle Clubs, such as shared services.

Agree. I'm a mechanical retard but, since buying my Blast, I've taken advice from the Thumper Forum, acquired a service manual and got some rider-buddies with mechanical ability to look over my shoulder. (I supply the beer.) I'm getting better and more confident and I actually like having grease under my nails. It feels so -- how do I say this? -- manly.

I will stay pay to have major things done, but I can save a lot of money and learn my bike by doing easy things myself.
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