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Xb9er
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

posting from my new iPod touch. This thing has it all. Its like a mini computer! Does anyone else have one?
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Doon
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Me being an apple fan boi, I've had one since they day they showed up in stores. Is very nice. My fav about the 2.0 software is the apple remote so I can control streaming to the airport expresses around the house : )
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got the iphone, version 1. love it, coolest electronics gadget ever!

(Message edited by badlionsfan on July 29, 2008)
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04buell
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

motorola q9. its pretty easy but wish it had a touch screen for stuff like this.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah - I won one 9 months ago.
Live in it.
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Xb9er
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

its cool to have regular Internet on a gadget and not have to pay a monthly service fee.
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Grancuda
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

its cool to have regular Internet on a gadget and not have to pay a monthly service fee.

So how does this set up work?
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04buell
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wish I could have the iphone...I love gadgets. But our service is through Verizon and they don't have the iphone yet. The data capabilities cost me 24.99 per month for the Q. So I have all the phone and internet services for 70.00 per month. I had the palm treo but with the touch screen it had on it, it would unlock itself and dial my bosses all the time. I had to give it up for that reason.

The Mrs.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Meh.

I've been posting from my Blackberry for years.
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Davefla
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So how does this set up work?

Basically it's good in any WiFi hotspot, though I'm unsure of security (that's mainly because web use on my iPod Touch is the first experience I've had with the Safari browser software.) In other words: no monthly fees, but I won't be accessing my bank accounts via the free WiFi at Starbuck's any time soon.
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Xb9er
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah I wouldn't be typing in my debit card number on a ipod.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, the iPhone is a GREAT internet device, however, it doesn't make a particularly good phone.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"palm treo but with the touch screen it had on it, it would unlock itself and dial my bosses all the time."

Everytime I ride with my Treo in my saddle bag it calls my girlfriend, first on my contact list, and all she hears is the rumble of the race can. It called her 3x's on one trip.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just got an iPhone 3G.

Absolutely too much fun!!
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Whatever
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blackjack good for quick posts and small photos. Just got it... video, camera, MP3 player, internet,text,phone $100 after rebate... oh yeah, can link to laptop computer too... I love it.
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Tq_freak
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Doing the same thing here chris, don't have Internet at
My new place yet and the touch is great for stealing a wifi signal
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Thespive
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had the 1st Gen iPhone since the came out, love it. Beware there is a bug in 2.0 when using certain apps that will crash and/or brick the phone (like mine did today). 2.0.1 is on the way with a fix for these issues.

--Sean
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Xb9er
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

will, hey your surprise was sent today. Be checking the mail.
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Jimduncan69
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i also just got the iPhone 3g. i had the original iPhone. but the 3g version is pretty damn cool. with mobile me it is awesome. my e-mail shows up on the iphone before it does on my macbook pro. i think it is a great phone also. it is by far the best cell phone i have ever had.
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04buell
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i like the q for its phone also. in my opinion...it is twice the cell phone the treo was. but i liked the computer sync better with the treo. i have never gotten the sync to work with my q. i have been visiting the q forum to see what i am doing wrong. forums are the best place to learn from the pros!!!
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Moto Racer game is OK value for the money but Cube Runner is free and just as playable.

Air Hockey is good.

Pool is good.

TExas Hold em isn't very good.

Blackjack is good.

Flashlight crashes mine.

300 Bowl is OK

Labrynth is free and good for 15 minutes.

I use remote too. good thing.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I paid $70 for my 16gb Ipod Touch...=)

And yes, they are awesome.
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 03:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought three 3g iphones. I run a full exchange server so I am just giddy at built in activesync support.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh yea, as far as internet on phones go. I use the Verizon XV6800 (hoping to get upgraded to the XV6900 for free, just like I got upgraded to the 6800 for no charge).
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Doon
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well technically if your bank uses SSL (if it doesnt Find a new bank). using the Wifi at starbucks will be no different then using the internet anywhere else. Even if someone sniffs the wifi connection all they are going to get is soup. they would still need to break the encryption (Which so far is still non-trivial to do in most cases for normal people).
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Bbbob
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brinnutz, How'd you buy it so cheap?
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Doon,

I just watched a Techy show on one of the HD channels that showed how easily that's done now and what kinds of software are out there to do it.The encryption breaking software can be found on the web.

The tech guy demonstrated it in a coffee shop with wifi...the people in the place were stunned at all the info he got and how easy it was. It's not the "normal" people doing the hacking.

Wifi is cool, but I sure as hell wouldn't be doing online banking or cc purchases using it.
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Rwven
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just ordered a WP Otterbox and Ram mount for mine.....
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Brinnutz
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bbbob,

Long story, it was a couple of deals I got, that lead to a trade...all in all, I paid $70 out of pocket for it.
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Doon
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ChinaShop: Breaking WEP is dead simple. So simple in fact we call it worthless encryption protocol. It is harder to break WPA (especially using TKIP+AES and rotating keys) but most free/public wifi doesn't use that as it needs to cater to the lowest common denominator of internet user, and most people that use wireless have the cheapest card possible (came with their computer, etc..) and back level drivers, so sadly 40 or 128 bit wep is what you get..

But regardless of what the wifi is using, I was talking more along the lines of the SSL/TLS encryption that is used between the browser and the server. Breaking 128Bit RC4 and the like that is used in TLS/SSL isn't as simple as cracking WEP which I will have to guess what your techy show was talking about. So regardless of the security of the underlying network the use of SSL/TLS between the server and the client overrides that. Now if my bank didn't offer SSL on their online banking I wouldn't be using it (and they wouldn't be my bank for very much longer) regardless of wired or wifi connections.

Just because you access your bank website via your cable modem doesn't make it any more secure that you access it via wifi at a hotspot. Those packets can easily be intercepted at any point along the way (slighly more difficult as the packets aren't in the air, but still doable). Either by sniffing along that cable, looking for leaking RF,etc.. There is nothing magical about it. Remember that the internet is a collection of networks, that your packets must pass through, at each and every hop it is possible that someone is sniffing. So anything that isn't encrypted is fair game and you should assume that someone is looking at it. Especially here in the US where CALEA has been expanded to require us to be able to tap any/all customers with a court order.

I can basically go on all day as I do work on this stuff for a living (when not out riding, I run an internet service provider), so I am not one of the normal people, and I would have very little problem using free wifi to do my online banking, but would make sure to verify the SSL certificate in use to make sure I was actually talking to my banks website, etc..

The things that I wouldn't do @ a wifi hotspot on the internet are the exact same things that I wouldn't do on my Cablemodem connection at home. I can say this as all of my daily stuff that I exchange any sort of confidential information (usernames/passwords/etc..) is all done via SSL/TLS encrypted connections.

Ok brain fart off.
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