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Tag0398
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Judging by their other take overs, they will streamline operations and make things more efficient in general. Unfortunately that will come at the cost of jobs, more than likely at the breweries, and perks at the local distributors.

They purchased Labatt not too long ago and it's hard to say what did it exactly but Labatt is worth a lot more than it once was..
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Prof_stack
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tramp, you know your beer stuff! I was a monster beer geek and homebrewer for 20 years before my body said to back off. Done.

Budweiser has RICE as the main (non-water) ingredient. They probably pay more for advertising the swill than making it.

The Germans and Czechs have it right: beer is made from malted barley, hops, and yeast. Wheat is okay for summertime brews.

There's a lot of corn in USA mainstream beers. But you know, the best beers here in the USA are those microbrews located just about everywhere. Locally made, fresh, and now as lagers or ales.

So the sale of AB is really a non-issue.
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am glad we are comming to our senses I would be truly happy if they sold BUD to the French thats were it belongs its garbage
I love American stuff but the mass produced beers here do not usually measure up across the world
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rice allows them to get the alcohol content up without sacrificing the watery goodness which allows you to consume such large quantities.
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I actually cut my beer teeth on Czech stuff when I went for over for my uncle's wedding. Started with a dark beer I can't remember the name of, and moved up to Pilsner Urquell. There's some Czechvar in the fridge right now.

I tried some of the American stuff when I got home. They're not joking... it's like water. Which reminds me of a joke a Czech waiter told me while I was over there:

"What's the difference between American beer and having sex in a canoe?"

"Nothing. They're both f____n' close to water!"

If I'm drinking American, I'm drinking Sam Adams.

~SM


(Message edited by Swordsman on July 14, 2008)
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P47b
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Iron City is the closest that I will drink to Bud most of the time. Can't get I/C in or near Kansas. Other wise Sam Adams is it.
Most over seas beers don't make the trip well to where I am at.

So many beers.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Tramp, you know your beer stuff!" thanks prof_stack...more like I know my Czech stuff, though...

Swordsman- the dark that you drank was likely "Kozel" (means Goat, has a goat on the label)...
Kozel is one of the many Czech varietals that features saccharin in it (unreal, right?), "Kelt" is the czech answer to Guinness, made tad sweeter.
Pilsner Urquell, home version, is far superior to the bitter export stuff we get here....which is saying a lot, considering how good the export actually is.

The next time any of you go to Central Europe, try the Czech Republic's most popular (esp. among rank & file vlue collar folks) beer:
"Gambrinus"
(Not to be confused w/'gambrinus brands' of Texas...another bootlegged name)
I lived on that shiit in '02 & '02
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tramp/Prof_stack,

I had the fortune to sample some of Dobr24's home brewed Belgian Wit. His was fantastic, creamy, and yeasty.

What production brew is closest to what a nice home brewed Belgian Wit would be. I've tried St. Bernardus and liked it, but didn't feel I had really scratched the itch.

I have threatened Chris that if he doesn't brew some more and bring it with him to Buelltoberfest, I was going to hunt him down and hurt him.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kozel has Sacharin in it??? Get OUT!

AB makes some darn good beer and their quality control is top notch.
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Wolf102
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

michelob amberbach for me.ratbuell if you need some help getin spotted cow i will be glad to help.
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Mr_gto
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 02:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sierra Nevada!
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 07:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake-
When are you joining me on a trip to the CZ?
Somehow, I doubt AB (or many other breweries, frankly) will be able to uphold the quality std.s implemented by "old 33"'s glass-lined tanks of Latrobe spring water.

One of the problems with CZ-EU compliance re: beers, esp. at the pub level, is the fact that the EU no longer allows pubs to use the ancient, prewar air pumps (usually down in murky, medieval basements) that used ambient air for propelling the pivo to the taps- EU standards, (oft. thankfully) mandate that brews and other draught beverages be propelled via closed-system Co2 tanks....the anaerobic Co2, of course, acts entirely differently on the brew than does ambient, O2-rich air, so it tastes considerably different, and affords a stunted, headache-ey buzz.
Co2, of course, presents naturally in any fermented beverage- the added O2 of ambient air mellows it out, considerably, and pre-oxidizes the brew without flattening it out.
This anachronistic, pre-EU method is now all-but-lost, in central Europe...but the brews are still, for those of us whom prefer pilsners/lagers, are still the last word in beer.

Mr_gto- believe it or not, back in the day, hitchhiking to/from Squaw valley, USA, my training partner and i were picked up by a cool young fella in a mini-p/u with stacks of cases in the bed-
said he had a start-up brewery called 'sierra nevada', he was delivering to some of the major resorts, with whom he'd contracted limited distribution.
I never would have thought it would have grown so big....I figured him for a dreamer.
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Brettx1
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good thing i love plank road beer, there's just something about american mass produced beer, MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
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Ceejay
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gambrinus-last time I looked it up, meant to drink a lot- thus was the name of an importer located in TX.

sierra nevada while expensive has become the fridge staple...

My old man used to keep a tap of amber bock-with the CO2 turned down enough just to give it pressure(at least that's how it seemed)as the beer always at first tasted flat but after two the checkerboard was out and things were good...
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I had the fortune to sample some of Dobr24's home brewed Belgian Wit. His was fantastic, creamy, and yeasty."

Ever try Sprecher Fat? Micro from Milwaukee? Amazing beer. I'll bring some down for BuellTober.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nope, but I'd love to try some!
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, a stunted, head-achey buzz is better than no buzz at all!

rt
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B00stzx3
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Somehow my Bud Light won't taste as good. It won't taste as American.... I think President Bush should step in. He has the power to.
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gambrinus is the most popular Czech beer, and the texas-based importer began using that name in hopes of doing another "Budweiser" bootleg.

Gambrinus, a legendary Flemish King, has been loosely ascribed to sainthood for brewers.

The Czech firm was the first to so-utilize his name on a label.




(Message edited by tramp on July 15, 2008)
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just like peeing and smelling bad when I'm sweaty.
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i prefer smelling pee-like when i'm bad and sweaty
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Strokizator
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like Blue Moon with a slice of orange.
Oh wait, did that just sound gay? Forget I said that.
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Ceejay
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

tramp-I used to drink a lot-well more than I do now, and was prescribing to moosehead when I noticed the import company. Not having a dictionary on hand I had to wait until I was able to get to work to look it up. Being as that was 10 yrs ago in New Mexico I'm unable to revisit. I've searced through about 15 sources here and, if it was entered, all stated the info that you had given. The source I got it from was indeed a dictionary but I can't remember which one but it was damn cool one. One of those books that you remember not for the content but just because it was cool-each page was very thick, but more importantly 2ft. tall and 1.5 wide...
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it doesn't matter...I definitely don't doubt that it was entered as such, and , really, it makes sense, given the beer-drinking nature of that saintly king...
as for me, i've rarely been able to have drink in the past 5 years...which sucks in Europe, where I spend a good portion of my Winters

(Message edited by tramp on July 15, 2008)
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like Blue Moon with a slice of orange.


Have you given the seasonal a try. Its really,really good.
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Brumbear
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love Spatten DAB or St.Pauli will do in a pinch
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Czech Republic kicks ass....



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Bigdaddy
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A subject that I can speak -- Euro beer : )

If you're in the Koln area then a fine pils will be the ticket. My favorites have always been Bitburger or Konigsbacher.

While I was living in Bavaria my favorite was Konig Ludwig dunkel weisse from Kaltenberg. Very heavy but excellent -- no issues when you're younger and doing PT 5 days a week.

All time favorite is Bitburger on tap. I'd have to guess that living there for many years is influencing my taste buds.

Spent some time in Belgium and their beer was very good too. Mons, Seneffe, Waterloo, all had some great beer.
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good to see you, Greg.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This thread kinda hits home seeing as how 75% of the Chrysler Building was just sold to foreign interests . . .
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